Global Warming bs???

"infect999 said:

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"Well I know that the sun is stronger than ever, because it feels too hot. It never did before....Damn people destroying the ozone layer....Im talking to you people from the 70-80's! Releasing chloroflurocarbons into the atmosphere!
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that's the power of suggestion, buddy. also, its summer, so obviously it's going to get hot.
"

Well yes, but not this hot....Plus, long ago, you would never ever see spf 45 sun screen it was always in the lower ones like 15.
Also, you can't deny the ozone layer has been depleting.
"

the whole ozone thing is a different subject than global warming. And its really been an overall cool summer so far. In fact, I just realized today it hasn't even reached 90 yet in my area. Not to mention we had one of the coldest and snowiest winters in ages."

Don't use 'your area' as a measure for whether or not global warming is a worthwhile theory."

Much of the world has seen the same thing as where I live."

And you know this how?
"

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"Well I know that the sun is stronger than ever, because it feels too hot. It never did before....Damn people destroying the ozone layer....Im talking to you people from the 70-80's! Releasing chloroflurocarbons into the atmosphere!
"

that's the power of suggestion, buddy. also, its summer, so obviously it's going to get hot.
"

Well yes, but not this hot....Plus, long ago, you would never ever see spf 45 sun screen it was always in the lower ones like 15.
Also, you can't deny the ozone layer has been depleting.
"

the whole ozone thing is a different subject than global warming. And its really been an overall cool summer so far. In fact, I just realized today it hasn't even reached 90 yet in my area. Not to mention we had one of the coldest and snowiest winters in ages."

Don't use 'your area' as a measure for whether or not global warming is a worthwhile theory."

Much of the world has seen the same thing as where I live."

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"Well I know that the sun is stronger than ever, because it feels too hot. It never did before....Damn people destroying the ozone layer....Im talking to you people from the 70-80's! Releasing chloroflurocarbons into the atmosphere!
"

that's the power of suggestion, buddy. also, its summer, so obviously it's going to get hot.
"

Well yes, but not this hot....Plus, long ago, you would never ever see spf 45 sun screen it was always in the lower ones like 15.
Also, you can't deny the ozone layer has been depleting.
"

the whole ozone thing is a different subject than global warming. And its really been an overall cool summer so far. In fact, I just realized today it hasn't even reached 90 yet in my area. Not to mention we had one of the coldest and snowiest winters in ages."

Don't use 'your area' as a measure for whether or not global warming is a worthwhile theory."

Much of the world has seen the same thing as where I live."

And you know this how?
"

I pay attention to the weather
"

Actually, a science teacher made a video for youtube about thinking of it as risk management instead of whether or not it actually exists.   Its kind of corny but it makes more sense than arguing over whether or not "global warming" exists because if it does happen all that arguing is useless when we're stuck with the consequences.  No one is infallable but taking the lesser risk is more important than taking no action at all because there are "debates".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcCXg

"infect999 said:

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"Well I know that the sun is stronger than ever, because it feels too hot. It never did before....Damn people destroying the ozone layer....Im talking to you people from the 70-80's! Releasing chloroflurocarbons into the atmosphere!
"

that's the power of suggestion, buddy. also, its summer, so obviously it's going to get hot.
"

Well yes, but not this hot....Plus, long ago, you would never ever see spf 45 sun screen it was always in the lower ones like 15.
Also, you can't deny the ozone layer has been depleting.
"

the whole ozone thing is a different subject than global warming. And its really been an overall cool summer so far. In fact, I just realized today it hasn't even reached 90 yet in my area. Not to mention we had one of the coldest and snowiest winters in ages."

Don't use 'your area' as a measure for whether or not global warming is a worthwhile theory."

Much of the world has seen the same thing as where I live."

And you know this how?
"

I pay attention to the weather
"

Oh so you know the average for the past few decades for the entire Earth. My bad."

lolz

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"Azteris said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"Well I know that the sun is stronger than ever, because it feels too hot. It never did before....Damn people destroying the ozone layer....Im talking to you people from the 70-80's! Releasing chloroflurocarbons into the atmosphere!
"

that's the power of suggestion, buddy. also, its summer, so obviously it's going to get hot.
"

Well yes, but not this hot....Plus, long ago, you would never ever see spf 45 sun screen it was always in the lower ones like 15.
Also, you can't deny the ozone layer has been depleting.
"

the whole ozone thing is a different subject than global warming. And its really been an overall cool summer so far. In fact, I just realized today it hasn't even reached 90 yet in my area. Not to mention we had one of the coldest and snowiest winters in ages."

Don't use 'your area' as a measure for whether or not global warming is a worthwhile theory."

Much of the world has seen the same thing as where I live."

And you know this how?
"

I pay attention to the weather
"

Oh so you know the average for the past few decades for the entire Earth. My bad."

Did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth."

"henjin said:

"infect999 said:

"henjin said:

"Well I know that the sun is stronger than ever, because it feels too hot. It never did before....Damn people destroying the ozone layer....Im talking to you people from the 70-80's! Releasing chloroflurocarbons into the atmosphere!
"

that's the power of suggestion, buddy. also, its summer, so obviously it's going to get hot.
"

Well yes, but not this hot....Plus, long ago, you would never ever see spf 45 sun screen it was always in the lower ones like 15.
Also, you can't deny the ozone layer has been depleting.
"

the whole ozone thing is a different subject than global warming. And its really been an overall cool summer so far. In fact, I just realized today it hasn't even reached 90 yet in my area. Not to mention we had one of the coldest and snowiest winters in ages."

The vid is 100% true. The world is warming up, but humans aren't the cause. There's nothing we can do to stop it. Even if humans completely stopped emitting CO2, it wouldn't do enough to counteract any global warming.

OMG Glaciers r gonna melt in 1904283593978349759835789652364234236 years!
TAKE COVER!

"How can you not believe in global warming? Isn't this sort of a fact?
"

Global warming isn't real? its a natural cycle of the earth...Cause last I checked the polar ice caps melting, most of the northern hempispheres glaciers melting, and expecting an iceless summer in the artic were fact...

Its funny the anti global warming people cannot prove that global warming isn't happening and then say the pro global warmers haven't proved it.
the closest thing the anti ones have is data that says the ice melted up north before...yet in the time span of what 500-1000 years? the ice up north now is melting in what? 100 yearS? time span? lol oh well we can just say when the east coast is underwater, we told you so.

No one knows for certain that global warming is true. Both sides are very possible and reasonable. Lets just say its 50/50 if global warming is true or not.

Global warming is true and we do nothing - we're fucked
Global warming is true and we do something - we're good and dont have all the smoggy bullshit nasty cities

Global warming is false and we do nothing - its all good
Global Warming is false and we do something - clean up the smoggy cities, waste some cash

Who here is willing to take a gamble over potentially wasting some money (would still have cleaner cities) or potentially fucking the planet over?

"No one knows for certain that global warming is true. Both sides are very possible and reasonable. Lets just say its 50/50 if global warming is true or not.

Global warming is true and we do nothing - we're fucked
Global warming is true and we do something - we're good and dont have all the smoggy bullshit nasty cities

Global warming is false and we do nothing - its all good
Global Warming is false and we do something - clean up the smoggy cities, waste some cash

Who here is willing to take a gamble over potentially wasting some money (would still have cleaner cities) or potentially fucking the planet over?
"

 I believe in global warming, but a lot of people don't know that 60 years ago it was popular belief that the world was going into another ice age.

"duffman1990 said:

"No one knows for certain that global warming is true. Both sides are very possible and reasonable. Lets just say its 50/50 if global warming is true or not.

Global warming is true and we do nothing - we're fucked
Global warming is true and we do something - we're good and dont have all the smoggy bullshit nasty cities

Global warming is false and we do nothing - its all good
Global Warming is false and we do something - clean up the smoggy cities, waste some cash

Who here is willing to take a gamble over potentially wasting some money (would still have cleaner cities) or potentially fucking the planet over?
"

Excellent point."

"lordofultima said:

"How can you not believe in global warming? Isn't this sort of a fact?
"

It's not fact. It's a bunch of retards making a big deal about a natural cycle of the earth."

"Azteris said:

"duffman1990 said:

"No one knows for certain that global warming is true. Both sides are very possible and reasonable. Lets just say its 50/50 if global warming is true or not.

Global warming is true and we do nothing - we're fucked
Global warming is true and we do something - we're good and dont have all the smoggy bullshit nasty cities

Global warming is false and we do nothing - its all good
Global Warming is false and we do something - clean up the smoggy cities, waste some cash

Who here is willing to take a gamble over potentially wasting some money (would still have cleaner cities) or potentially fucking the planet over?
"

Excellent point."

Agreed, it is better to be safe than sorry.  But I really don't think there is anything we can do if its true.
"

"Batman said:

"Azteris said:

"duffman1990 said:

"No one knows for certain that global warming is true. Both sides are very possible and reasonable. Lets just say its 50/50 if global warming is true or not.

Global warming is true and we do nothing - we're fucked
Global warming is true and we do something - we're good and dont have all the smoggy bullshit nasty cities

Global warming is false and we do nothing - its all good
Global Warming is false and we do something - clean up the smoggy cities, waste some cash

Who here is willing to take a gamble over potentially wasting some money (would still have cleaner cities) or potentially fucking the planet over?
"

Excellent point."

Agreed, it is better to be safe than sorry.  But I really don't think there is anything we can do if its true.
"

Nothing we can do? Why is that?"

"Have you read any of the studies that say we are speeding it up? How do you discredit them?"

"Azteris said:

"Have you read any of the studies that say we are speeding it up? How do you discredit them?"

Yeah I've read them, but I've also heard the other sides of the story and it just seems more plausible.  I'm wrong about this kind of stuff 85% of the time, so what does that tell you?  Like I said its better safe then sorry, so I am happy that we are doing something about it for a worse case scenario.
"

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

anyone here from Greenland? Mind sticking your head outside, see if your backyard is melting?

"Batman said:

"Azteris said:

"Have you read any of the studies that say we are speeding it up? How do you discredit them?"

Yeah I've read them, but I've also heard the other sides of the story and it just seems more plausible.  I'm wrong about this kind of stuff 85% of the time, so what does that tell you?  Like I said its better safe then sorry, so I am happy that we are doing something about it for a worse case scenario.
"

We are doing very little, duffman just said we should do something."

"Global warming has sped up drastically thanks to increasing human carbon dioxide emissions. It's scientific fact that CO2 traps heat and warms the atmosphere. The current rate of global warming being a natural occurrence is what I like to call, bullshit.
"

Regardless if global warming is real, what we do know for a fact is that at the current rate we're using oil and natural resources, is not good for the planet, which is turn is not good for us. Oil is not a renewable resource, and we will run out. And when we do, we better have a plan or airplanes, and other things are going to be a thing of the past.

I believe that we'll find a way though, I mean for all the bad humans do, we do have some of the brightest minds in the world working on the problem, and look how far we've come in 500 years.

The biggest problem is companies like China, and India, which huge population, and huge growth. Which provides a pretty big problem emission wise.

Global warming doesn't have to be real for us to note that we need to take steps to cut of our heavy dependence on foreign oil.

Global warming is a natural process. The only thing we are doing is speeding it up. Global warming would be happening with or without humans.

why would we spend all that money on different sources of energy when we can spend it on sweet tactical air strikes in Iraq???

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

"why would we spend all that money on different sources of energy when we can spend it on sweet tactical air strikes in Iraq???
"

GLOBAL WARMING ISN'T REAL RAAAA

"carzy said:

"why would we spend all that money on different sources of energy when we can spend it on sweet tactical air strikes in Iraq???
"

Helmets...everywhere.
"

I've heard that during the industrial age it seemed as there was global "cooling" and people were blaming the pollution then. Now is global warming real? Yes. Are we causing it? That's what I'm split at.

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

internets????
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Im not a scientist so i cant say whether global warming is real or not.

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

I don't discredit the media as a whole but the only thing I rely on these days are the people that can actually support their facts scientifically rather than useless ranting of how things will end up in the future just because someone famous says so. In my opinion people are just too gullible these days and have to really think about what they're listening to. "

"No one knows for certain that global warming is true. Both sides are very possible and reasonable. Lets just say its 50/50 if global warming is true or not.

Global warming is true and we do nothing - we're fucked
Global warming is true and we do something - we're good and dont have all the smoggy bullshit nasty cities

Global warming is false and we do nothing - its all good
Global Warming is false and we do something - clean up the smoggy cities, waste some cash

Who here is willing to take a gamble over potentially wasting some money (would still have cleaner cities) or potentially fucking the planet over?
"

"filiwian said:

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

I don't discredit the media as a whole but the only thing I rely on these days are the people that can actually support their facts scientifically rather than useless ranting of how things will end up in the future just because someone famous says so. In my opinion people are just too gullible these days and have to really think about what they're listening to. "

I just don't understand this batshit crazy viewpoint you have. Where else would you get news? You have to watch it on some type of media tv channel or read on some type of website. The info just doesn't appear in front of you."

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

I don't discredit the media as a whole but the only thing I rely on these days are the people that can actually support their facts scientifically rather than useless ranting of how things will end up in the future just because someone famous says so. In my opinion people are just too gullible these days and have to really think about what they're listening to. "

I just don't understand this batshit crazy viewpoint you have. Where else would you get news? You have to watch it on some type of media tv channel or read on some type of website. The info just doesn't appear in front of you."

I think he means cited scientific study presented by climatologist>Inconvenient Truth"

"atejas said:

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

I don't discredit the media as a whole but the only thing I rely on these days are the people that can actually support their facts scientifically rather than useless ranting of how things will end up in the future just because someone famous says so. In my opinion people are just too gullible these days and have to really think about what they're listening to. "

I just don't understand this batshit crazy viewpoint you have. Where else would you get news? You have to watch it on some type of media tv channel or read on some type of website. The info just doesn't appear in front of you."

I think he means cited scientific study presented by climatologist>Inconvenient Truth"

Problem is, unless you're a climatologists yourself, you're not really qualified to scrutinize a scientific study by a climatologist.
"

"filiwian said:

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

I don't discredit the media as a whole but the only thing I rely on these days are the people that can actually support their facts scientifically rather than useless ranting of how things will end up in the future just because someone famous says so. In my opinion people are just too gullible these days and have to really think about what they're listening to. "

I just don't understand this batshit crazy viewpoint you have. Where else would you get news? You have to watch it on some type of media tv channel or read on some type of website. The info just doesn't appear in front of you."

First thing, don't use your area's seasonal temperature to measure if there is really a global warming. Because some areas are not yet effected.
Second, not all things in media are false.

If global warming isn't real then why is it hot as hell up in here?, we actually did some measurements and it is actually hotter than the last ten years.

I guess for NOreason, irrelevant, and just pure coincidence that;

• Most tropical areas are hotter than ever.
• Heavier downpour of rains.
• Melting of glaciers.

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"Azteris said:

"filiwian said:

"I don't know what to believe anymore since the media has way of "turning people into sheep". For me I somewhat believe in Global Warming and the other half I don't  for various reasons. "

While I agree you have to realize there is bias in everything (to varying degrees of course), you can't discredit the media as a whole. Where else would you find out about anything? "

I don't discredit the media as a whole but the only thing I rely on these days are the people that can actually support their facts scientifically rather than useless ranting of how things will end up in the future just because someone famous says so. In my opinion people are just too gullible these days and have to really think about what they're listening to. "

I just don't understand this batshit crazy viewpoint you have. Where else would you get news? You have to watch it on some type of media tv channel or read on some type of website. The info just doesn't appear in front of you."

I never said that I don't watch the media, I do. I'm just stating that the media tends to mislead people sometimes and do the thinking for the people when the people should do the thinking for themselves. One example would be the McCain ad that he has against Barack Obama, different types of media say that McCain is better because of his past experience while others say that Obama is better simply because they really think he can make a difference. If you read my first comment I state my opinions on for "various reasons". "

Lol, i can't list them all.