Gods of Egypt AKA: Lets make everyone in Egypt British or American

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@sweep said:
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@sweep: How do you guys manage to stay afloat these days? I hear the pay you guys get is really bad compared to all the work you do

THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

The reality is that most of us don't.

You mean nationally or internationally?

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Haha. I was part of the VFX team on this film. And on Exodus, incidentally.

*sigh*

Once again, it all comes back to Giant Bomb.

I can't even count the number of ways this is amazing.

Giant bomb's at it again

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Because this is obviously a historical movie where it needs to be accurate in its portrayal. Seriously this movie looks like garbage. The "white washing" is about the last thing Im concerned with here.

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@sweep: Locked my first GB thread and did VFX for Exodus!? Renaissance man, Sweep.

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Reminds me of that Avatar The Last Airbender movie that thankfully doesn't exist, and how it was supposedly going to replace the almost entirely Asian-themed cast of the show with white people. Thankfully it never got made, but I shudder to think what could have been.

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Let's be fair here guys, no Egyptian person would ever want to star in a Hollywood film about Egypt, not with how offensive and stereotypical foreign characters are in Hollywood films.

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#57  Edited By Evilsbane
This guy looks 1000% cooler than anything in that trailer.
This guy looks 1000% cooler than anything in that trailer.

As someone who really loves the design of Egyptian gods and their ideas of the afterlife, the movie looks super disappointing even giant fire breathing snakes can't save it.

I WANT THESE GUYS, LOOK AT THESE MOTHERFUCKERS COME ON!
I WANT THESE GUYS, LOOK AT THESE MOTHERFUCKERS COME ON!
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#58 sweep  Moderator

@weirdo said:
@sweep said:
@weirdo said:

@sweep: How do you guys manage to stay afloat these days? I hear the pay you guys get is really bad compared to all the work you do

THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

The reality is that most of us don't.

You mean nationally or internationally?

To be honest it's the same thing these days. You'll frequently be required to work overseas if the local work dries up. I'm working in Singapore at the moment, for example. Though in fairness, that's because I got offered a great job as oppose to a lack of work elsewhere.

Being sent to Canada happens with startling frequency, Vancouver and Montreal have ridiculous tax breaks that makes it much cheaper for publishers to get their VFX done there.

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#59  Edited By weirdo
@sweep said:
@weirdo said:
@sweep said:
@weirdo said:

@sweep: How do you guys manage to stay afloat these days? I hear the pay you guys get is really bad compared to all the work you do

THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

The reality is that most of us don't.

You mean nationally or internationally?

To be honest it's the same thing these days. You'll frequently be required to work overseas if the local work dries up. I'm working in Singapore at the moment, for example. Though in fairness, that's because I got offered a great job as oppose to a lack of work elsewhere.

Being sent to Canada happens with startling frequency, Vancouver and Montreal have ridiculous tax breaks that makes it much cheaper for publishers to get their VFX done there.

How can you keep up with the expenses? I'm assuming your VFX company pays for your plane tickets and apartment/hotel/motel due to said frequency

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I don't appreciate the whitewashing in this thread title.

Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Chadwick Boseman is American though so at least that half was right.

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#61  Edited By MeierTheRed

All that made me think of was Captain Power: And the Soldiers of Tomorrow.

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Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Would you also happen to be an American?

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@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:

Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Would you also happen to be an American?

I don't understand the question.

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@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:

Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Would you also happen to be an American?

I don't understand the question.

You're saying that calling a Scottish person "British" is politically incorrect and then you go on to tell people that Americans suck at recognizing Scottish culture.

You're accusing people of something that you're guilty of.

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@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:
@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:

Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Would you also happen to be an American?

I don't understand the question.

You're saying that calling a Scottish person "British" is politically incorrect and then you go on to tell people that Americans suck at recognizing Scottish culture.

You're accusing people of something that you're guilty of.

Maybe I'm a huge supporter of the SNP?

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Proyas did Dark City, which is at least four times better than the Crow.

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@strangestories: I totally agree with your points. At the same time, the question of race apropos the casting in these movies seems so tangential to me; in one my favorite films of all time, Lawrence of Arabia, Faisal is played by Alec Guinness and Anthony Quinn is Auda abu Tayi. I don't think that casting middle eastern actors for those roles would have benefited that movie in any way.

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Gerard Butler is Scottish.

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Gerard Butler is Scottish.

I'll believe it when I see the birth certificate!

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In movies, viewers come because of names and faces they recognize. In games, it's the series, the studio or the director name that brings the sales.

In movies you can't bring in anybody unless you have earned enough investments, and you do that by landing deals with big names or risking career-suicide through a wild gamble. In games, people are starting to prefer noname voice-actors they've never heard of before and fresh unknown developers are welcomed with open arms.

I should have jammed that into the most recent topic of voice-actor strikes.

I'd have loved to have seen a full ethnic crew with or without flawless English for the target audience. Here's a curiosity, remember the 2003 film Bend it Like Beckham? In Europe the marketing focus was on Parminder Nagra's character, her family interactions (oh dear that grandmother) and the time playing soccer, on the other side of the Atlantic I remember full focus on the blonde white Kiera Knightly. Maybe our governments or the EU as a whole should support moviemaking projects sometimes so that we could get some multicultural work done and let new actors and actresses break through?

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#71  Edited By PufferFiz

I don't understand why people don't get that this movie is projected to cost 140 million dollars. ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION DOLLARS.

the sad truth is that NO investor is going to pony up that kind of money for actors that don't have marketing potential.

I am not saying its right or OK but it gets frustrating to see people think that this is some fucking 9/11 level conspiracy theory on making everyone think that only white people exist.

This movie isn't going to win any awards its going to metacritic under 40 and investors don't care. The thing the people that made this movie care about is getting your average joe to come in and spend 12 dollars to watch a vfx roller coaster. They took out a bag of all the a++ actors that had free time to shoot and pretty much picked at random. Fuck they are probably banking that this movie grosses more overseas then domestic which a lot of these times of movies do.

When you go to the academy awards or film festivals you will see great actors from a very diverse set of backgrounds. those movies cost significantly less and ARE BETTER and will drive film as a medium forward. This is trash, stop giving it anymore credit then that.

It also took me 30 seconds to see that there was actually no white americans in the main cast and the only american in the main cast is black(obviously this is the main cast not everyone that will be in the movie). But of course why put out facts when making controversy.

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This reminds me of the CGI in those Clash of the Titans remake movies. I know its supposed to be over the top but the CGI just gives me this uncanny valley feel. Even more so than CGI in things like CW shows or disaster movies.

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#73 sweep  Moderator

@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:
@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:

Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Would you also happen to be an American?

I don't understand the question.

You're saying that calling a Scottish person "British" is politically incorrect and then you go on to tell people that Americans suck at recognizing Scottish culture.

You're accusing people of something that you're guilty of.

Maybe I'm a huge supporter of the SNP?

Still makes you wrong, though. Scotland is part of Britain.

Anyway, let's get this back on topic.

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This reminds me of the CGI in those Clash of the Titans remake movies. I know its supposed to be over the top but the CGI just gives me this uncanny valley feel. Even more so than CGI in things like CW shows or disaster movies.

The release is still a long way away. I wouldn't be surprised if the final product was much more polished.

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#74  Edited By talonar

@sweep said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:
@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:
@456nto said:
@excitable_misunderstood_genius said:

Implying that Gerard Butler and Nicolaj Coster Waldau are British is really politically incorrect. The failure of Americans to recognize Scottish and Danish cultures is appalling.

Would you also happen to be an American?

I don't understand the question.

You're saying that calling a Scottish person "British" is politically incorrect and then you go on to tell people that Americans suck at recognizing Scottish culture.

You're accusing people of something that you're guilty of.

Maybe I'm a huge supporter of the SNP?

Still makes you wrong, though. Scotland is part of Britain.

Anyway, let's get this back on topic.

@talonar said:

This reminds me of the CGI in those Clash of the Titans remake movies. I know its supposed to be over the top but the CGI just gives me this uncanny valley feel. Even more so than CGI in things like CW shows or disaster movies.

The release is still a long way away. I wouldn't be surprised if the final product was much more polished.

Maybe? I'm just saying it might be the setting and the CGI use being mostly mythical beings and not buildings falling over and ground cracking open that makes it uncanny to me. Felt the same way during most of the CGI use in Exodus. Just seems slightly off. Probably harder to meld the CGI when most of the shots in that trailer are during the day.

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When the audience proves that the studios need to change the casting of the movies they make. Then they'll change. If you care about more diverse casting, then don't see this movie. That might mean sacrificing your entertainment for your values. THE HORROR.

That probably comes off as quite facetious. Not pointing fingers at anyone. I just find it strange that people complain about this, and characters in games, then just keep going and buying the continuing volumes of 'white guy shot bangs' every year. You as the audience has the power, sadly more as a consumer than an activist. I think I'm rambling now.

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The audience wants to see films starring OVERUSEDACTOR in the role of OVERUSEDACTOR acting like OVERUSEDACTOR so that they can talk about how great OVERUSEDACTOR was.