GOP! Who do you think is the most Legit in this plethora of factually challenged morons?
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@Axxol said:
Legit politicians are about as rare as attractive female gamers.
You know, I can be both.
@Axxol:
Fucking racist. (Either that, or you're acknowledging the legitimacy of Lunarian politics. If that's the case, then awesome.)
Hey, I dislike the Republican Party too, but John Huntsman isn't a moron.
Edit: Also, Herman Cain is pretty much out of the race. He isn't coming back.
@Axxol said:
Legit politicians are about as rare as attractive female gamers.
Not sure if I agree with this... I haven't met many female gamers... but from the like 10-20 i've met I can pretty much say that at least 12 were attractive. So sure female gamers are rare, but attractive ones aren't relatively rare in conjunction to how rare female gamers are. AKA one in like 20 gamers is female but one in 2(in my experience anyway) fem gamers is attractive...
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
@MooseyMcMan said:
Hey, I dislike the Republican Party too, but John Huntsman isn't a moron.
Edit: Also, Herman Cain is pretty much out of the race. He isn't coming back.
O I agree Jon Huntsman is the most rational of the bunch, hence why I left it blank. And Michele Bachman doesn't really seem to have a style of her own... not panacea plan like the rest(i think)... she just blends in so I left that blank too.
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
I wished our election were speedy, god, we have a year of this shit. Just condense it to 6 months.
@Dany said:
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
I wished our election were speedy, god, we have a year of this shit. Just condense it to 6 months.
O come on, i'm not even American and I love these media hypes! So much fun... i'm dreading my free time when this is over...
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
Well, MPs themselves basically don't matter with the kind of discipline exercised by Canadian parties. The Prime Minister is an appointment that's been getting steadily more powerful over the years to the point that he basically dictates whats going to happen and only the courts can stop him. And let's not forget the Governor General's role in allowing him to prorogue parliament whenever he feels like, and call snap elections when it's most favorable.
Canadian politics are boring because the whole system is broken. Love my country, hate the way it's run.
@gamefreak9 said:
@Dany said:
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
I wished our election were speedy, god, we have a year of this shit. Just condense it to 6 months.
O come on, i'm not even American and I love these media hypes! So much fun... i'm dreading my free time when this is over...
I hate it, too much time is spent of meaningless/pointless/timfillering shit.
Newt Gringrich vs Mitt Romney. I laugh my ass of if Newt gets it because holy shit it means repubs are going to make excuses for his past until election day.
I would be scared of Mitt Romney if it weren't he such a flip flopping motherfucker from the northwest. I can't take any of those assholes seriously. But some of the rhetoric coming of their mouth I just have to laugh at because if I were to take them seriously I would be scared shitless.
I hate both sides right. Obama is too much of a pussy and pretty much all of the Republican candidates are jokes. Ron Paul is the only one I like on that side.
Jon Huntsman is about the only not-insane one. So the chances of him getting anywhere are basically nil.
@Skullo said:
Smash your head into the TV, problem solved. Between the broken TV and your new concussion, you won't have to listen to Newt Gingrich because your TV won't be outputting anything and you will be busy in the bathroom throwing up. Overall I would call that a net gain over listening to Newt Gingrich.
Every time I hear Newt Gringrich talk I want to punch myself or the TV, sometimes I don't know which.
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
I'm fucking moving to Canada.
Does your country obsess over how much the politicians commit adultery as well?
@Ben_H said:
Jon Huntsman is about the only not-insane one. So the chances of him getting anywhere are basically nil.@Skullo said:Smash your head into the TV, problem solved. Between the broken TV and your new concussion, you won't have to listen to Newt Gingrich because your TV won't be outputting anything and you will be busy in the bathroom throwing up. Overall I would call that a net gain over listening to Newt Gingrich.Every time I hear Newt Gringrich talk I want to punch myself or the TV, sometimes I don't know which.
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Fucking eh! (see what I did there?)I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
Oh and I'm Canadian, too. You really could not have described our current politics more accurately.
@believer258 said:
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
I'm fucking moving to Canada.
Does your country obsess over how much the politicians commit adultery as well?
There's a thing you must understand. For the electorate to even keep you in power/vote you in, you must be able to show loyalty to that one person. It's basically symbolism. As long as you're loyalty to that one person the electorate will understand that you will be loyal to them as well. If you show a wondering eye or lust towards another person that is not your spouse (female perferably to the voter at hand) it will show a character flaw in that politican. Some people make a big deal about adultery because humans are hardwired to be with that one person, so showing anything but love toward your spouse will get you nowhere.
P.S. You may note that no one is cracking wise about the Clinton adultery because that was a long fucking time ago and some years back (as well Gringrich's) but Bill isn't in the spotlight as often as Newt. So guess what? We're going to hear about his adultery more than Clintons.
@Skullo said:
@believer258 said:
@bwmcmaste said:
I love the American elections: so much extravagance, controversy, and silliness. It's completely unlike how we do things in Canada: a speedy election of relatively unfamiliar people, covered by the national broadcaster, and ending with general indifference on the part of the constituency in general.
I'm fucking moving to Canada.
Does your country obsess over how much the politicians commit adultery as well?
There's a thing you must understand. For the electorate to even keep you in power/vote you in, you must be able to show loyalty to that one person. It's basically symbolism. As long as you're loyalty to that one person the electorate will understand that you will be loyal to them as well. If you show a wondering eye or lust towards another person that is not your spouse (female perferably to the voter at hand) it will show a character flaw in that politican. Some people make a big deal about adultery because humans are hardwired to be with that one person, so showing anything but love toward your spouse will get you nowhere.
P.S. You may note that no one is cracking wise about the Clinton adultery because that was a long fucking time ago and some years back (as well Gringrich's) but Bill isn't in the spotlight as often as Newt. So guess what? We're going to hear about his adultery more than Clintons.
I see now, that makes sense. Still, I don't much care about a politician's personal life. I would rather know his past political deeds than who has been popping his cherry, but then a lack of loyalty to one person can reflect a lack of loyalty to an entire nation.
Actually, at this point, I just keep getting more and more apathetic. I do understand how stupid this is of me, to not really exercise my right to vote, but I can't see much reason to when it doesn't do much good. Bush Jr. got into office via the electoral vote instead of the popular one; my political knowledge is a little rusty but that says, to me, that I can't do a whole lot about a shitty government because it's just going to swing its decisions wherever it wants to.
If it were up to me, I'd throw them all out and elect all new people, none of which are old money. Many other complications would arise from that - like who would govern us in the meantime - but I'm just speculating and rambling at this point.
@MooseyMcMan said:
Hey, I dislike the Republican Party too, but John Huntsman isn't a moron.
Edit: Also, Herman Cain is pretty much out of the race. He isn't coming back.
why? because he believes in climate change? he is just as backwards as the other GoP candidates, he just appears "moderate".
Of the bunch, I feel like Ron Paul is the one who truly sticks to his own principles. Yeah, so he's an unelectable hardcore Libertarian who wants to basically remove government, but at least you know he means it. The rest of those guys are posers by comparison, riding the current wave of anti-government populist anger to suit their own needs.
Personally, I'm most interested to see if Romney or Gingrich gets the nomination. Either way the president probably wins, but its merely a question of by how much does he win.
editorialized premise is editorializing... regardless I'd have to say Ron Paul, he has some crazy ideas but he's on the right side of issues regarding the overreach of executive power since 9/11.
I disagree with the factually-challenged premise, but as far as being "legit", I would say Jon Huntsman is the most reasonable and well-informed candidate in the group.
The only problem is that the news media aren't interested in "substance". Gingrich and Huntsman actually had a nice sitdown discussion over the weekend where they looked at serious solutions to current problems for a hour or two. It was very cordial and scholarly.
CNN then called it "boring", cut to a clip of Rick Perry saying something stupid, and mused about whether Romney and Gingrich should make more personal attacks to destroy the other.
That's where our political discourse is right now.
Huntsman attended Highland High School in Salt Lake City but dropped out before graduating to pursue his passion as a keyboard player in the rock band Wizard.
Guys..come on guys.
Ron Paul. He's the only one who doesn't seem to be in the pocket of the Koch Brothers or some other wealthy private backer.
Romney: No way to really know his position on things. While I think it's good that he's flexible, he's a bit too flexible to be a executive.
Gingrich: For a "smart" guy, he seems to continuously say stupid things and promote idiotic ideas.
Cain: Can't keep his dick in his pants..plus he's done.
Perry: I keep getting the feeling that GW Bush watched "Face Off" too many times and used the power of the CIA to make it happen. Simply put, he's a moron.
Huntsman: Seems non-crazy...I find that suspicious..
Bachman: Oh CRAP! I was vaccinated against small pox as a child....now I'm fucking retarded! Seriously...she's like the Planter's version of Willy Wonka.
Paul: Sometimes sane, sometimes nuts. I really like some of his positions. Others of his positions are simply ridiculous (the whole gold thing, pretty much eliminating government, etc). And even a few hypocritical (No big government. Also, no abortions.).
Basically there aren't any GOP candidates that would pass the sanity test for the 70% of the country that doesn't automatically vote GOP.
@lazyturtle said:
Romney: No way to really know his position on things. While I think it's good that he's flexible, he's a bit too flexible to be a executive.
Gingrich: For a "smart" guy, he seems to continuously say stupid things and promote idiotic ideas.
Cain: Can't keep his dick in his pants..plus he's done.
Perry: I keep getting the feeling that GW Bush watched "Face Off" too many times and used the power of the CIA to make it happen. Simply put, he's a moron.
Huntsman: Seems non-crazy...I find that suspicious..
Bachman: Oh CRAP! I was vaccinated against small pox as a child....now I'm fucking retarded! Seriously...she's like the Planter's version of Willy Wonka.
Paul: Sometimes sane, sometimes nuts. I really like some of his positions. Others of his positions are simply ridiculous (the whole gold thing, pretty much eliminating government, etc). And even a few hypocritical (No big government. Also, no abortions.).
Basically there aren't any GOP candidates that would pass the sanity test for the 70% of the country that doesn't automatically vote GOP.
I should have had you draw up the poll options eh?
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