I've a little knowledge on British slang and I came across a word that I couldn't quite make sense of in the context of hearing it. What exactly does "Ponce" mean? I was thinking that it means something on the line of someone being an a$$hole or a jerk as in: "He's a ponce".
Am I right or completely off base?
Hey Brits - What does "Ponce" mean?
" IMO the best British insult is, and always will be, twat. "This is correct. Americans can't even say it properly so it shall always be our insult and no others.
swearing is way more casual in britain, it's commonplace to call someone a c word for the littelist thing whereas in america it seems to be some forbiden part of the english lanuage
Yeah. Silly us pronouncing the T at the end. Yew Tweah' .... is that better?" @Sanj said:
This is correct. Americans can't even say it properly so it shall always be our insult and no others. "" IMO the best British insult is, and always will be, twat. "
@tallTuck94
said:Er... there a lot more swear words than cunt in existence. We swear all the time, and I guarantee we say fuck more than the English. It's just that "cunt" is only slightly less offensive to folks than "nigger" in this country, which is generally considered unacceptable to use even in this context. We use "spaz" or "spastic" casually to describe people acting weird or crazy, and I hear that's pretty a offensive term in the UK. It's just regional dialect." swearing is way more casual in britain, it's commonplace to call someone a c word for the littelist thing whereas in america it seems to be some forbiden part of the english lanuage "
" swearing is way more casual in britain, it's commonplace to call someone a c word for the littelist thing whereas in america it seems to be some forbiden part of the english lanuage "You can thank the feminazis for that.
" @MysteriousBob said:The fuck are you talking about? Its pronounced how its spelt. "Twat". Don't know what mysterious language you're thinking of. You people keep saying "Twot".Yeah. Silly us pronouncing the T at the end. Yew Tweah' .... is that better? "" @Sanj said:
This is correct. Americans can't even say it properly so it shall always be our insult and no others. "" IMO the best British insult is, and always will be, twat. "
" @MrKlorox said:Do you not notice how common it is for English people pronouncing the T at the end of words with their throat instead of their tongue? Secondly, if you're going on about the difference in the way A's sound, where have you been for the past two hundred years?" @MysteriousBob said:The fuck are you talking about? Its pronounced how its spelt. "Twat". Don't know what mysterious language you're thinking of. You people keep saying "Twot". "Yeah. Silly us pronouncing the T at the end. Yew Tweah' .... is that better? "" @Sanj said:
This is correct. Americans can't even say it properly so it shall always be our insult and no others. "" IMO the best British insult is, and always will be, twat. "
" OK a question from an English person to an American: what is grilled cheese? Is it the same as cheese on toast? "Cheese on toast sounds like it's just cheese melted on a piece of toast. A Grilled Cheese is a sandwich.
To make a grilled cheese you get a pan and butter some bread then start cooking it. Then you throw a piece of cheese on it and let it warm and soft then put the other piece of buttered bread on top of it like a sandwich then flip it and cook the other side. Then when the bread is golden brown you eat it.
" @MysteriousBob said:What? English people pronounce the T's at the end. The British accent annunciates those sounds more than the American language. At least my British accent does, anyway." @MrKlorox said:Do you not notice how common it is for English people pronouncing the T at the end of words with their throat instead of their tongue? Secondly, if you're going on about the difference in the way A's sound, where have you been for the past two hundred years? "" @MysteriousBob said:The fuck are you talking about? Its pronounced how its spelt. "Twat". Don't know what mysterious language you're thinking of. You people keep saying "Twot". "Yeah. Silly us pronouncing the T at the end. Yew Tweah' .... is that better? "" @Sanj said:
This is correct. Americans can't even say it properly so it shall always be our insult and no others. "" IMO the best British insult is, and always will be, twat. "
Can't say I've really used the word ponce, it's probably more common down south. I however like the phrases "You set of twats", "You silly bastard", "You fucking dick head", "You absolute prick" and the very occasional "You fucking nob head", I don't use that one as much since all the dirt bags around Leeds started using it.
" @markini6 said:Oh so a cheese toastie. Thanks :)" OK a question from an English person to an American: what is grilled cheese? Is it the same as cheese on toast? "Cheese on toast sounds like it's just cheese melted on a piece of toast. A Grilled Cheese is a sandwich. To make a grilled cheese you get a pan and butter some bread then start cooking it. Then you throw a piece of cheese on it and let it warm and soft then put the other piece of buttered bread on top of it like a sandwich then flip it and cook the other side. Then when the bread is golden brown you eat it. "
Why is it called a grilled cheese sandwich, when it's fried? Shouldn't you grill it?" @markini6 said:
Cheese on toast sounds like it's just cheese melted on a piece of toast. A Grilled Cheese is a sandwich. To make a grilled cheese you get a pan and butter some bread then start cooking it. Then you throw a piece of cheese on it and let it warm and soft then put the other piece of buttered bread on top of it like a sandwich then flip it and cook the other side. Then when the bread is golden brown you eat it. "" OK a question from an English person to an American: what is grilled cheese? Is it the same as cheese on toast? "
Every time I watch Ricky Gervais say twat he always leaves his mouth open at the end of the word. Same with almost any other time I've watch any English say twat. How can one make the T sound when one's tongue doesn't come into contact with his teeth? By approximating it by closing one's throat instead. Those who do it probably don't even notice it." @MrKlorox said:
Do you not notice how common it is for English people pronouncing the T at the end of words with their throat instead of their tongue? Secondly, if you're going on about the difference in the way A's sound, where have you been for the past two hundred years? "What? English people pronounce the T's at the end. The British accent annunciates those sounds more than the American language. At least my British accent does, anyway. "
I should try to find or create a twat montage to prove my point. But like you made mention of, there are many British accents. Just like there are many Texan accents, let alone American accents. We could all be basing our examples off the more annoying ones that stick out in our mind instead of the average ones that we ignore.
" @MrKlorox said:It's more of a griddled cheese sandwich. I wouldn't even really call it fried since it's so dry. But I guess some folks do grill theirs?Why is it called a grilled cheese sandwich, when it's fried? Shouldn't you grill it? "" @markini6 said:
Cheese on toast sounds like it's just cheese melted on a piece of toast. A Grilled Cheese is a sandwich. To make a grilled cheese you get a pan and butter some bread then start cooking it. Then you throw a piece of cheese on it and let it warm and soft then put the other piece of buttered bread on top of it like a sandwich then flip it and cook the other side. Then when the bread is golden brown you eat it. "" OK a question from an English person to an American: what is grilled cheese? Is it the same as cheese on toast? "
" @Drebin_893 said:Depends on how you're saying it, I just sat here saying twat and I guess if i'm joking around I don't tend to pronounce the t on the end so much but if I say it in anger then the t at the end gets pronounced properly." @MrKlorox said:Every time I watch Ricky Gervais say twat he always leaves his mouth open at the end of the word. Same with almost any other time I've watch any English say twat. How can you make the T sound when one's tongue doesn't come into contact with his teeth? By approximating it by closing one's throat instead. Those who do it probably don't even notice it. I should try to find or create a twat montage to prove my point. But like you made mention of, there are many British accents. Just like there are many Texan accents, let alone American accents. We could all be basing our examples off the more annoying ones that stick out in our mind instead of the average ones that we ignore. "Do you not notice how common it is for English people pronouncing the T at the end of words with their throat instead of their tongue? Secondly, if you're going on about the difference in the way A's sound, where have you been for the past two hundred years? "What? English people pronounce the T's at the end. The British accent annunciates those sounds more than the American language. At least my British accent does, anyway. "
@KaosAngel said:
" ...while the Brits are here, what does wanker really mean? You guys have such casual insults. >.> "
Well... wank means to masturbate, but "wanker" is never used literally to describe someone who wanks, cos pretty much everyone does.. and I knew the term wanker when I was like 7 years old and didn't know about masturbation then. Iunno, just a general insult. Same as calling someone a tosser.
You fucking dick headUniversal.
@MrKlorox:
I was thinking the same thing about how T's sound, perhaps in context with the word. Kinda made me think of something along the lines of 'arry Potter. Not outright enunciating it, but it's still totally there. These are the assumptions of an American, so correct me if I'm wrong.
I love these kinds of threads. It's interesting to see how stuff works in other countries.
Ah. I thought it meant masturbator, which I always thought was a strange insult." Well... wank means to masturbate, but "wanker" is never used literally to describe someone who wanks, cos pretty much everyone does.. and I knew the term wanker when I was like 7 years old and didn't know about masturbation then. Iunno, just a general insult. Same as calling someone a tosser. "
I was gonna ask if tosser was another masturbation thing (tossing off, for those who do not know -- again, weird term) or if it was a tongue meets anus thing (toss the salad). But I guess the world will never know.
@wolf_blitzer85 said:
" @MrKlorox: I was thinking the same thing about how T's sound, perhaps in context with the word. Kinda made me think of something along the lines of 'arry Potter. Not outright enunciating it, but it's still totally there. "Yes! I was also gonna make mention H at the beginning of words but forgot. So you know how you're supposed to say "an historic event" even though H isn't a vowel? It totally makes sense that way.
Also you know in Fable 2 how all the guards will pronounce an H at the beginning of words that should start with vowels? Like "Hafter him!". What's up with that?
A ponce was originally meant for girly men, it's pretty much the equivalent of a pussy. But again, it's a more general insult now.
Also to people thinking Cunt isn't a bad word in england, it still is. Parts of the country will say it as if it's nothing, but generally its considered a pretty nasty word. In fact a lot of the time you'll get the same reaction vinny got, maybe not quite as extreme, but a general suprise of how harsh it was.
Heres something I dont understand. I often watch the UK version of Top Gear, and they often refer to people they don't like as 'cocks'. What does that mean? Because in Canada, its like a slang term for a penis.
" Heres something I dont understand. I often watch the UK version of Top Gear, and they often refer to people they don't like as 'cocks'. What does that mean? Because in Canada, its like a slang term for a penis. "A penis.
@MrKlorox said:
" Do you guys snicker like Beavis when somebody says something like "hey toss me that remote"? "No, unless you have the humour of a 5 year old.
With the whole "Arry Potter" stuff thats kind of more of a Londoner stereotype than something we would actually say. Same with the stuff from fable. There just characterizations of us, not stuff we actually do! And a cock is slag for penis but usually like wanker and tosser it just means someones whose an idiot or similar :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_words_not_widely_used_in_the_United_States" Someone really ought to write a damn guide for USA/Canada -> UK and vice versa because it seems like I see these threads on forums all the time. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_words_having_different_meanings_in_British_and_American_English:_A%E2%80%93L
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_words_having_different_meanings_in_British_and_American_English:_M%E2%80%93Z
" Yes! I was also gonna make mention H at the beginning of words but forgot. So you know how you're supposed to say "an historic event" even though H isn't a vowel? It totally makes sense that way. Also you know in Fable 2 how all the guards will pronounce an H at the beginning of words that should start with vowels? Like "Hafter him!". What's up with that? "I presume the idea is that they are from a working class/common/whatever background and naturally drop their initial aitches, but are aware that this is improper English, and so make a very deliberate effort to avoid this, but are overzealous in doing so. In other words, hypercorrection. It's like people who don't fully understand how to use apostrophes using them all over the place, or people thinking that all instances of "who" should be "whom".
@MrKlorox said:
" Do you guys snicker like Beavis when somebody says something like "hey toss me that remote"? "No, the rudeness of the verb "toss" is entirely contextual, much like many other words. Also, one thing that interests me is that the British English equivalent of "snicker" is "snigger". I'm not sure which is the older version, but I can take a guess at why US English speakers might be more sensitive about the latter variation (although there is, of course, absolutely no racial or otherwise offensive quality to the word, much like "niggardly").
re: grilled cheese
I think the most important thing is the use of "american cheese" aka processed cheese. Real cheese has too high a fat content so that if you try and make it in a pan it is going to make an oily mess.
I would say the closed UK thing to a grilled cheese would be Welsh Rarebit.
" @MrKlorox said:Your both wrong, it's called a Jaffle damn it!" @markini6 said:Oh so a cheese toastie. Thanks :) "" OK a question from an English person to an American: what is grilled cheese? Is it the same as cheese on toast? "Cheese on toast sounds like it's just cheese melted on a piece of toast. A Grilled Cheese is a sandwich. To make a grilled cheese you get a pan and butter some bread then start cooking it. Then you throw a piece of cheese on it and let it warm and soft then put the other piece of buttered bread on top of it like a sandwich then flip it and cook the other side. Then when the bread is golden brown you eat it. "
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