How stupid can these people be?

There was recently an incident here in Seattle where a fifteen-year-old girl was chased into one of the downtown bus tunnel stations by a group of older teens that robbed and beat her in front of three secu rity officers that did nothing to help.
 
Nothing.
 
Well, you could say calling the police is something, but seriously, even if your job description is to observe and report, how stupid can you be to just stand by and allow a girl who had every reason to think you would protect her get beaten and robbed by a group of thugs right in front of you?  This is beyond ridiculous.
 
I've taken the bus through that tunnel countless times over the years, and I've never personally witnessed a crime take place in any of the stations.  However, I can attest to the notion that the "security" present is really nothing more than a bunch of yokel rent-a-cops that seem to find it more productive to shout at you for standing on the yellow warning strip on the platform's edge than stay on watch for anything actually resembling a threat.  I feel nothing but pity for the girl and I'm glad her assailants were caught, but the security in the tunnels needs an overhaul before I'm going to take those guards and their Cracker Jack prize badges seriously.

Wow. That video embedded with the article was pretty surreal. It was bizarre seeing one of the security guards stand there when a girl is getting kicked while laying in the ground. By the looks of it, it seemed like one security guard was trying to stop the assault by asking politely. -_-'

Meh. Worse shit happens everyday, not much you can do about it.

According to the video, the aren't allowed to intervene. It could just be three guards trying to keep their job. If anything, the policy is stupid.

The girl didn't get jumped, she was in a fight and she was losing. Cry.

I definitely agree that the security for that station needs an overhaul but I don't think you can really blame the guards.  They probably aren't given the training to know how to properly react in a violent situation.  If they intervened they would be risking their jobs by directly going against protocol, especially since they'd be using force on a 15 year old girl.
 
The blame should go on whoever made the decision to save some money by employing under trained security guards and instituting a policy that is meant to cover their own asses legally.

I've said it many times before and I'm sure this won't be the last time. Fuck the police. If they'd have escorted the girl like she asked, this might not have transpired this way.
 
And the "security guards" (an ironic title if ever there was one) are fucking pussies and are in possession of the easiest and most useless job in the universe. The legal system in this country is FUCKed up, with a capital fuck.

" Meh. Worse shit happens everyday, not much you can do about it. "

No one is really to blame for this situation other than the group of thugs who attacked the girl. You can't expect security guards to intervene when their job description explicitly states they shouldn't get involved directly and you can't really expect the police to be everywhere at once either.

Security guards aren't trained to help with shit like this. That's why they're security guards, real law enforcement has standards.

" Security guards aren't trained to help with shit like this. "

I believe that Security guards are nothing. What we need are proper army soldiers on the streets. That would help against crime like that.

" @ryanwho said:

" Security guards aren't trained to help with shit like this. "

Then they need to stop calling themselves such. They don't guard the security. They should be called "professional snitches" since all they are willing to do is observe and report. They're worthless, spineless cowards. "

I hope the guards lose their children's respect over this. I know I would rather know my father lost his job by doing right instead of keeping it by doing wrong. What a shitty example they set as parents.

" I love how everybody says they were doing there job. Does there job require them to watch a person get beaten? Who sits around while somebody gets beaten, disgusting. "

" I love how everybody says they were doing there job. Does there job require them to watch a person get beaten? Who sits around while somebody gets beaten, disgusting. "

The people of Seattle are pretty....simple. Tons of Nintendo and Microsoft employees squatting about.

" @Atomasist said:

" I love how everybody says they were doing there job. Does there job require them to watch a person get beaten? Who sits around while somebody gets beaten, disgusting. "

See, their job description is to NOT get involved. Since they are part of a company, if they did intervene, violently, then it is possible the company would have been sewed, costing the company a ton of money. I'm sure they felt really terrible about it, but they could lose their jobs if they intervened. And chances are you aren't going to be rehired by some other company if your reason for dismissal was because you caused a lawsuit. "

" Since they are part of a company, if they did intervene, violently, then it is possible the company would have been sewed, costing the company a ton of money. "

 And chances are you aren't going to be rehired by some other company if your reason for dismissal was because you caused a lawsuit. 

Anybody that lets "policy" or their job description stop them from helping someone in a situation like this is worthless.

" @ThatFrood said:

" @Atomasist said:

" I love how everybody says they were doing there job. Does there job require them to watch a person get beaten? Who sits around while somebody gets beaten, disgusting. "

See, their job description is to NOT get involved. Since they are part of a company, if they did intervene, violently, then it is possible the company would have been sewed, costing the company a ton of money. I'm sure they felt really terrible about it, but they could lose their jobs if they intervened. And chances are you aren't going to be rehired by some other company if your reason for dismissal was because you caused a lawsuit. "

It's their fault that they didn't help the girl, but it's also the fault of the security company for instilling that policy and mentality.  Making someone think that they could be fired for attempting to stop an assault is just wrong, but it doesn't excuse the the fact that the guards chose not to take that risk. "

" The people of Seattle are pretty....simple. Tons of Nintendo and Microsoft employees squatting about. "

" Hmmm... Do my civilian job, or get into a fight with a bunch of black kids, potentially getting fired, sued, and go to jail.    "

" @MAN_FLANNEL said:

" Hmmm... Do my civilian job, or get into a fight with a bunch of black kids, potentially getting fired, sued, and go to jail.    "

It was one girl. You can't stop one person? "

" @MrKlorox: while that's all true to a degree, it really isn't that simple. To begin with, security guards are not high-skill but generally are high-benefit, there are a lot of people in line to take those jobs. If a company had to choose between a guy who was involved in a suit or not, they'd choose the not. And as for the self-defense. Well, yes, obviously. Self-defense takes precedence in legal courts.  A comparison to this would be that people who work at retail are not allowed to stop people from shop-lifting. If a shop-lifter runs, you aren't allowed to pursue. Sure, it seems wrong, but if the employee were to try and stop them forcefully, so much as grabbing their hand, they could be fired. "

" @Atomasist said:

" @MAN_FLANNEL said:

" Hmmm... Do my civilian job, or get into a fight with a bunch of black kids, potentially getting fired, sued, and go to jail.    "

It was one girl. You can't stop one person? "

The article implies there were around 9 of them.  "

" There was recently an incident here in Seattle where a fifteen-year-old girl was chased into one of the downtown bus tunnel stations by a group of older teens that robbed and beat her in front of three secu rity officers that did nothing to help.

" @Hailinel said:

" There was recently an incident here in Seattle where a fifteen-year-old girl was chased into one of the downtown bus tunnel stations by a group of older teens that robbed and beat her in front of three secu rity officers that did nothing to help.

Uhh...what? That's not what the video said at all. It was a fight between two girls.  If it's against their policy to get involved, I can't say I particularly blamed them. This thread is pretty exaggerated. It wasn't a beating. It was a fight. "

" @ThatFrood said:

" @MrKlorox: while that's all true to a degree, it really isn't that simple. To begin with, security guards are not high-skill but generally are high-benefit, there are a lot of people in line to take those jobs. If a company had to choose between a guy who was involved in a suit or not, they'd choose the not. And as for the self-defense. Well, yes, obviously. Self-defense takes precedence in legal courts.  A comparison to this would be that people who work at retail are not allowed to stop people from shop-lifting. If a shop-lifter runs, you aren't allowed to pursue. Sure, it seems wrong, but if the employee were to try and stop them forcefully, so much as grabbing their hand, they could be fired. "

Stopping someone from stealing a candy bar and stopping someone from beating someone else's face in are two different things. "

" @Hailinel said:

" @ThatFrood said:

" @MrKlorox: while that's all true to a degree, it really isn't that simple. To begin with, security guards are not high-skill but generally are high-benefit, there are a lot of people in line to take those jobs. If a company had to choose between a guy who was involved in a suit or not, they'd choose the not. And as for the self-defense. Well, yes, obviously. Self-defense takes precedence in legal courts.  A comparison to this would be that people who work at retail are not allowed to stop people from shop-lifting. If a shop-lifter runs, you aren't allowed to pursue. Sure, it seems wrong, but if the employee were to try and stop them forcefully, so much as grabbing their hand, they could be fired. "

Stopping someone from stealing a candy bar and stopping someone from beating someone else's face in are two different things. "

Look, yes, I agree. It was just another example of how corporate policy can interfere with ethics. I'm making the argument that these security guards aren't inhuman or monsters for not interfering, they behaved like everyone else would, they were scared. Did you notice anyone else in the crowd rushing to help the girl? Would you? As much as you may like to say yes, I doubt it. "

" @MAN_FLANNEL said:

" @Atomasist said:

" @MAN_FLANNEL said:

" Hmmm... Do my civilian job, or get into a fight with a bunch of black kids, potentially getting fired, sued, and go to jail.    "

It was one girl. You can't stop one person? "

The article implies there were around 9 of them.  "

Read again. One girl and three boys versus one younger girl. "

In this case, it was a violent fight, and they were outnumbered by this pack of people 3-to-1.

" Did you notice anyone else in the crowd rushing to help the girl? Would you? As much as you may like to say yes, I doubt it. "

" @MrKlorox said:

" @MAN_FLANNEL said:

" @Atomasist said:

" @MAN_FLANNEL said:

" Hmmm... Do my civilian job, or get into a fight with a bunch of black kids, potentially getting fired, sued, and go to jail.    "

It was one girl. You can't stop one person? "

The article implies there were around 9 of them.  "

Read again. One girl and three boys versus one younger girl. "

No, I am not going to fucking read it again.  

In this case, it was a violent fight, and they were outnumbered by this pack of people 3-to-1.

That implies around 9 people. "

" @RsistncE said:

" Meh. Worse shit happens everyday, not much you can do about it. "

except there were a bunch of dudes who could do something about it, except they stood and watched. "

If the guards did anything they would be charged with assault, assault to a minor which would lead to losing their jobs, fines and most likely jail time.
 
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it is stupid on everyone's part. the girl ask a cop to esscort her to the tunnel but said no. security just watched as she got her ass beaten. yes, it says that they can't intervene but i think they change. maybe they should just have pepper spray or a teaser for things like that and put them under citizen's arrest.

" If the guards did anything they would be charged with assault, assault to a minor which would lead to losing their jobs, fines and most likely jail time. "