I Suffer from Electile Dysfunction

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#1  Edited By NathHaw

I'm still not too sure for whom to vote. 

McCain is wishy-washy, and Obama is too.  Both are far from my ideal.

While I like most of McCain's politics I can't help but think he is simply pandering to his base and at the same time making statements to get votes from the moderates.  ...oh wait, so is Obama with his moving to the center.

Both potential candidates have altered so many positions over the last few months that I am thinking of abstaining my vote.  Not that voting would make much of a difference in my state anyway.  It'll go Republican; it always does.  It's similar to California's always going Democrat.


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#2  Edited By Clean

I want Obama to win. YES WE CAN

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#3  Edited By Karmum

I see what you did there, and I don't like it. >:(

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#4  Edited By henjin
Karmum said:
"I see what you did there, and I don't like it. >:(
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I see what he did there as well. I was tricked for a second. >=(
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#5  Edited By ATotalMelvin

Whoever you feel is right for office at the time of voting.

If I lived in the States I'd vote Obama. But I'm just a crazy Canadian, what would I know?


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#6  Edited By mr_korean

We Want CHANGE no not the money kind.

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#8  Edited By NathHaw

I'm certainly leaning toward McCain, but as a conservative I don't find him too awfully different from the Obamessiah.  If I fancied myself a soothsayer, I'd predict that Obama wins the Presidency.  He definitely  possesses the overall popular vote.  I'd love to have a black man on Pennsylvania Avenue but not for only the sake of his race.  Beliefs trump race for the most part.

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#9  Edited By ATotalMelvin
Bloviator said:
"I'm certainly leaning toward McCain, but as a conservative I don't find him too awfully different from the Obamessiah.  If I fancied myself a soothsayer, I'd predict that Obama wins the Presidency.  He definitely  possesses the overall popular vote.  I'd love to have a black man on Pennsylvania Avenue but not for only the sake of his race.  Beliefs trump race for the most part.
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Of course belief is more important than race. Go with what you feel is the best choice for you.

P.S. most people here will probably tell you to vote for Obama
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Viagra.


It works cause it has a 'V' in front of it.

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#11  Edited By Montauk

I'll probably end up voting for McCain... there's just a couple things that I really disagree with about Obama that will keep me from voting for him.

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#12  Edited By NathHaw
Montauk said:
"I'll probably end up voting for McCain... there's just a couple things that I really disagree with about Obama that will keep me from voting for him.
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Same.  Obama captivates an audience so often, but he oozes with politician to the point that I don't many times take his opinions seriously.
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#13  Edited By SolemnOaf

It really doesn't matter who you vote for.  Electronic vote machine results can be entirely fabricated.  Even if your vote does somehow manage to count, you're just picking the next marionette on strings for the people behind the scenes to pull on.  The Presidency is a farce, real power doesn't change hands every 4 or 8 years.  Sounds like somebody needs to do some research on their shadow government, so that their feelings of vague unease can be cemented into outright outrage.  Good luck.

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#14  Edited By Foil_Charizard
Bloviator said:
"I'm still not too sure for whom to vote. 

McCain is wishy-washy, and Obama is too.  Both are far from my ideal.

While I like most of McCain's politics I can't help but think he is simply pandering to his base and at the same time making statements to get votes from the moderates.  ...oh wait, so is Obama with his moving to the center.

Both potential candidates have altered so many positions over the last few months that I am thinking of abstaining my vote.  Not that voting would make much of a difference in my state anyway.  It'll go Republican; it always does.  It's similar to California's always going Democrat.


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I hate both of them personally, do us all a favor and write in Ron Paul.
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#15  Edited By NathHaw
SolemnOaf said:
"It really doesn't matter who you vote for.  Electronic vote machine results can be entirely fabricated.  Even if your vote does somehow manage to count, you're just picking the next marionette on strings for the people behind the scenes to pull on.  The Presidency is a farce, real power doesn't change hands every 4 or 8 years.  Sounds like somebody needs to do some research on their shadow government, so that their feelings of vague unease can be cemented into outright outrage.  Good luck."
Yeah, man, fight the power!   lol ;)
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#16  Edited By NathHaw
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I hate both of them personally, do us all a favor and write in Ron Paul.
Meh, I want my potential vote to at least make some substantial difference.  If I vote I'll vote for one of the two who have a reasonable chance.
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#18  Edited By Termite

I'm an Obama supporter. I wanted Kucinich but...I knew he didn't have a chance

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#19  Edited By Foil_Charizard
Bloviator said:
"Foil_Charizard said:
I hate both of them personally, do us all a favor and write in Ron Paul.
Meh, I want my potential vote to at least make some substantial difference.  If I vote I'll vote for one of the two who have a reasonable chance.
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This is the reason why a 2 party system dominates our gov't, writing in a name or voting 3rd party makes a larger statement then voting out of contempt (especially sense you claim to be a true conservative), if you actually were passionate about one of the 2 it would make sense but just picking one because a 3rd party will never win just means you're part of the problem. And btw the word "substantial" is a terrible choice of wording as one vote does not even come close to making a substantial difference in a high school election let alone a national one.
Sorrt for the rant but this shit gets under my skin.
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#20  Edited By SolemnOaf

just for fun, go search "voter fraud" at youtube, see how many and what kind of results come up. 

Just because CBS isn't blaring it out to you during the evening news, doesn't mean it isn't happening. 

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#21  Edited By fr33lanc3r

Hooray for voter obstinance.  Not voting creates the same level of tumult in our two party system as voting for a non-factor candidate such as Ron Paul.  In this system we are prided more on voting for either republicans or democrats and not who we really think should lead us.  This entire system leads to a group of people running our country that aren't fit for the positions that they have "bought" themselves.  To truly start to see what our political system could be like we need to start waking up and voting for what we believe.  If you believe Kusinich would lead us best, write him in, Paul, do the same, a recombinant form of Hitler and Oprah, go for it.  To truly shake the political system F*** Obama and McCain, they have become party line and blind to our needs and wants as a country.

Sincerely,
Your friendly politically neutral socialist/fascist role-model

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#22  Edited By NathHaw
SolemnOaf said:
"watch this, O' smart alecky doubtful one:

http://www.edgemediatv.com/icke/"
I was serious with my comment.  I take most comments on serious topics seriously.  I do joke from time to time though.  I also take links from the internet with a grain of salt considering any following person could link an opposing argument of equal merit.  It happens all the time.  I attempt to weigh each accordingly. 

BTW, I don't watch CBS...nearly ever.
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#23  Edited By NathHaw
Foil_Charizard said:
"Bloviator said:
"Foil_Charizard said:
I hate both of them personally, do us all a favor and write in Ron Paul.
Meh, I want my potential vote to at least make some substantial difference.  If I vote I'll vote for one of the two who have a reasonable chance.
"
This is the reason why a 2 party system dominates our gov't, writing in a name or voting 3rd party makes a larger statement then voting out of contempt (especially sense you claim to be a true conservative), if you actually were passionate about one of the 2 it would make sense but just picking one because a 3rd party will never win just means you're part of the problem. And btw the word "substantial" is a terrible choice of wording as one vote does not even come close to making a substantial difference in a high school election let alone a national one.
Sorrt for the rant but this shit gets under my skin.
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I never said I was a "true conservative."   Don't let my posts get too far under your skin.  Read them as though you were speaking to an acquaintance.  Potentially what you have said is good, but again I think in a realistic fashion rather than a theoretical one on this matter anyway.  Voting third party won't work at this time.  I'd like it to, but it won't.  Perhaps that is a problem essentially, but the problematics of that choice is outweighed in my opinion by the immediacy of choosing a viable candidate. 

I agree with you in that anyone's vote may make little difference.  As I've said before, in my state it almost doesn't matter, because it will go Republican.   I used substantially facetiously there.  Actually, I should have italicized  "some" and "substantial."  

No problem on the rant there.  That's all part of it.  I expected it.
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#24  Edited By Chris_Hanson

Now now, little boys may get you going but it's not healthy, why don't you have a seat over there and we will help you.

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#25  Edited By SolemnOaf
Chris_Hanson said:
"Now now, little boys may get you going but it's not healthy, why don't you have a seat over there and we will help you.
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them's fighting words....put up ur dukes, let's have some you yellow bellied liver-spotted lime-chewing tart!  
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#26  Edited By SolemnOaf
Bloviator said:
"SolemnOaf said:
"watch this, O' smart alecky doubtful one:

http://www.edgemediatv.com/icke/"
I was serious with my comment.  I take most comments on serious topics seriously.  I do joke from time to time though.  I also take links from the internet with a grain of salt considering any following person could link an opposing argument of equal merit.  It happens all the time.  I attempt to weigh each accordingly. 

BTW, I don't watch CBS...nearly ever.
"
watch it sometime.  Seriously, it just might help you gain some perspective about things.  It's not really an argument so much as a series of warnings.  It's a bit long, sure, but I wouldn't have bothered going to find it and then posting it for you if i thought anyone who watched it wouldn't be the better for it.  After all, what greater purpose is there for the human mind than to make sense of things that previously were a mystery? 

Don't let yourself be counted among the willfully ignorant.  Also, I'm not trying to insult you, it was just the winking thing kind of made your answer come off as snarky.  My Apologies.
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#27  Edited By Premier111

I cant see myself voting in one way yet

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#28  Edited By Happy_Cloud

McCain is a little old I think. I mean, 86 million is a little old to be president IMO.

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#29  Edited By Grape

Obama is the lesser of both evils. So I'd vote for him.

Mccain is... retarded. Seriously. He graduated like what, 890th out of a class of 897 graduates? That's bad. Also, he doesn't know how to use a computer. What the hell. And he wants to stay in Iraq for another 100 years if he feels it's necessary.

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#30  Edited By Gunner

I dont think i could ever trust a guy who has spent several years in a vietnamise POW camp... Those guys are never right in the head.

AND the fact that he supported bush on entering the war... Not cool man.
obama is the best choice right now.

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#31  Edited By BulletPulse
markop2003 said:
"i don't like either of them but i think oboma may be better for the country,
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#32  Edited By LJS9502_basic

Just put insects or shit on your cock...
Oh wait elections, my bad. I'm going to vote for McCain he's my kind of guy.

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#33  Edited By psr388
Bloviator said:
"Both potential candidates have altered so many positions over the last few months that I am thinking of abstaining my vote."

when i start thinking like that, i like to remember some truly wise words...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiN9pA67hmI
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#34  Edited By Will1Lucky

If either of them puts America into another period of Isolation then vote for that one.