I'm sure there is plenty of guys working at the office for whiskey media who love to play team sports games, like hockey, baseball and football. One of those dudes could surely throw in a review or two every now and then.
The site has been live for over a year, i think its about time they got somebody to review sports games.
As much as many of you may like to think ,despite never actually playing them, sports games can be just as technically top-notch as uncharted 2 and batman arkham asylum.
I think its about time GB staff does sports games reviews.
"...Giant Bomb isn't interested in the fire-hose approach to video game coverage. Our editorial team is small and experienced, and our job is to highlight the stuff that we feel is significant, either to us on a personal level, or for video games at large. That's not everything, but it's still a lot. Though, we're not real big on sports games, so don't expect too much meaningful/informed Madden coverage. "
Does this not fall under their original ruling though they're going to try and cover only a certain percent of games. To be reviewing sports games seems like a waste of time anyway, more times than not the following game in the series is just the same as the previous with a few changes.
Though having said that Coonce plays Madden, I remember reading a tournament thread he wanted in on, so if he had time maybe he could do some.
Sports games hardly change from year to year so it's not worth losing real game reviews for that. Or site space really. Or the extra time it takes to scroll past them.
The site is designed to allow for user reviews, making the need for the old idea of a "sports guy", "driving guy", "sim guy", and "RPG guy" obsolete. Besides, why review games that get yearly updates, made by the same company, bought annually by the same people? It's not like there's a choice. For the few games that actually have to compete, most people decided years ago whether they're a FIFA guy or a Winning Eleven guy. There isn't much to review outside of saying what's new, and if it's broken or not.
Besides, why review games that get yearly updates, made by the same company, bought annually by the same people?Umm....* coughs, interrupts this thread*
Difference between the Madden games each year: This guy is on that team and that guy is on this team. They would be too difficult to review, and nobody would care.
much like what ryan said about anime
every review would start with "well it's a sports game so it sucks"
how much really changes from year to year?
i think its rather a waste of time to do a complete review of something where there are only one or two changes that were made and the rest is just tweaks
They can just review this year's Madden/NBA/Fifa/PES/NHL and not have to review the sequels for another 10 years since they're basically the same.
" @TwoOneFive: Does this answer your question?dude, be real, thats bullshit if you think about it""...Giant Bomb isn't interested in the fire-hose approach to video game coverage. Our editorial team is small and experienced, and our job is to highlight the stuff that we feel is significant, either to us on a personal level, or for video games at large. That's not everything, but it's still a lot. Though, we're not real big on sports games, so don't expect too much meaningful/informed Madden coverage. "
these guys review a ton of games, and thats just the main four, others sometimes step in for different reviews. but yeah, they review far moer games, many of which are really under the radar type.
im just saying there has got to be somebody willing to do sports games reviews for GB. @TheGremp said:
" Why bother? Every review would be "Well, it's a bit better than last years. They found a new gimmick related to the right analog stick, and the rosters are updated. 3 stars." "and dude, its guys like you that annoy me.
we get it, you don't like sports.
you're being very narrow minded in that assumption.
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year. obviously theres plenty of new content and improvements and tweaks etc to validate a full written review.
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.)
" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you need to be a better writer.Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.
But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance.
Have you ever actually read those reviews? They talk the same crap 90% of the time, and the other 10% is spent talking about last year's game."and dude, its guys like you that annoy me. we get it, you don't like sports. you're being very narrow minded in that assumption. Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year. obviously theres plenty of new content and improvements and tweaks etc to validate a full written review. "
They aint qualified to review the games since they dont even like sports. At most Jeff is the closest to liking any real sports. But he doesn't play the mainstream, though I am sure we will get an NBA Jam review when the game is out.
They would need another person, or ask around the office of the engineers if they play the games and could write a review. I mean, do none of these guys get excited for the BCS Title game or March Madness or the Super Bowl? The NBA Finals where Kobe goes on a rampage to give everyone a facial?
I think it's less to do with the innovation (or lack of) within sports games, and more to do with their lack of knowledge on sports games that they don't review them, which is a good move. I mean I cannot play RTS games competently so I don't expect my views and opinions on the quality of the product to be taken seriously.
Or maybe it's hard to rephrase the same Mega Man review about 21 times. What am I supposed to add to that?
" @Video_Game_King said:i agree." @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you need to be a better writer. TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED.
With movies i think its the most obvious.
I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database.
To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous.
I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like " Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?" , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003.
Sports does not exist in this Dojo. And I'm fine with that. The staff made a decision to start a site and try to live a working life away from all the shit they HAD to do at big corporate review factories like gamespot. There are plenty, PLENTY of sites out there to cover all your sports review needs. Plus, this site lives and breathes off user content, so write more reviews or encourage your pals to review. I applaud the guys for sticking to their guns and playing exactly what they want to play, including shovel ware, and not catering to what they feel might garner more traffic.
I don't really care for sports games so I'm fine with it.
Ski Or Die is still the best sports game I've ever played. It was simple, fun and funny.
I don't really care for sports games so I'm fine with it.
Ski Or Die (PC version) is still the best sports game I've ever played. It was simple, fun and funny.
" I'm sure there is plenty of guys working at the office for whiskey media who love to play team sports games, like hockey, baseball and football. One of those dudes could surely throw in a review or two every now and then."They build websites, they're not writers. Yes, Dave does occasionally do reviews, but it's very rare, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he has a lot of editing help from the rest of the staff. Not to mention that "those dudes" are probably far too busy maintaining this site.
" @bonbolapti said:Their existence isn't ignored. They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database. If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site. Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!? Quit ignoring Joust!" @Video_Game_King said:i agree. this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED. With movies i think its the most obvious. I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database. To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous. I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like " Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?" , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003. "" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you need to be a better writer. TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports. Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people. Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information). Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content? Because that is what you would likely get.
" @bonbolapti said:Their existence isn't ignored. They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database. If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site. Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!? Quit ignoring Joust!" @Video_Game_King said:i agree. this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED. With movies i think its the most obvious. I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database. To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous. I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like " Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?" , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003. "" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you need to be a better writer. TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports. Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people. Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information). Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content? Because that is what you would likely get.
" Sports games hardly change from year to year so it's not worth losing real game reviews for that. Or site space really. Or the extra time it takes to scroll past them. "
" @TwoOneFive said:i meant ignore as in, GB staff swearing to cover only the biggest and best game releases and all the rest that people care about. sports games are incredibly popular." @bonbolapti said:Their existence isn't ignored. They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database. If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site. Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!? Quit ignoring Joust! As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports. Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people. Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information). Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content? Because that is what you would likely get. "" @Video_Game_King said:i agree. this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED. With movies i think its the most obvious. I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database. To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous. I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like " Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?" , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003. "" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you need to be a better writer. TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
" @TwoOneFive said:so there is nobody else besides dave who would like to do the occasional review?" I'm sure there is plenty of guys working at the office for whiskey media who love to play team sports games, like hockey, baseball and football. One of those dudes could surely throw in a review or two every now and then."They build websites, they're not writers. Yes, Dave does occasionally do reviews, but it's very rare, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he has a lot of editing help from the rest of the staff. Not to mention that "those dudes" are probably far too busy maintaining this site. "
I play a lot of FIFA and occasionally some NBA, NFL or Madden as well, and I am very happy that they don't review those. The time it would take them to inform me about games I know are coming and I know will be pretty good, could take up the time that is now used for games like Cryostasis,Silent Hill and Fat Princess that I wouldn't have heard of otherwise.
That Giantbomb has a unique editorial direction is what keeps it from being a run-of-the-mill "gamer" website (plus legendary editors, top notch videos and this)
Giant Bomb's rating system works that really games don't get given scores which are meaningful, the scores mean how much GB recommend the game, not just what they think of it. Unless they have someone who loves sports games, there probably isn't much point in trying to say if the game is recommendable or not, since the staff don't like it.
For an example, if Demon Souls were to be reviewed, on the GB system they would probably give it 3 stars, since this is what governs the ratings. That is why The Ballad of Gay Tony only got 3 stars, it isn't 60%, it is saying that " An inherent appreciation of this game's specific gameplay style, characters, subject matter, and so on may play as big a role in your enjoyment as the actual quality of the game"; and for Ryan this applied, he didn't think everyone would love it and so it was a 3.
Giant Bomb isn't comparable to other games websites which give scores, since it is the written review which should influence a purchase the most. For a sports game Giant Bomb's staff (and Whiskey Media's do have other stuff to do) have no basis so can't be fair with a review, you either will like a Soccer game or not; end of.
" @Crono said:Please read my whole post." @TwoOneFive said:i meant ignore as in, GB staff swearing to cover only the biggest and best game releases and all the rest that people care about. sports games are incredibly popular. "" @bonbolapti said:Their existence isn't ignored. They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database. If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site. Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!? Quit ignoring Joust! As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports. Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people. Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information). Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content? Because that is what you would likely get. "" @Video_Game_King said:i agree. this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED. With movies i think its the most obvious. I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database. To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous. I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like " Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?" , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003. "" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you need to be a better writer. TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
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