I Thought... (Election topic)

You have really done it now, America. I am hopeful this only turns into another endless well of humor. But I am afraid this will get nasty. As nasty as he is. I mean, he is legitimately an awful person, someone I would actively steer around at any party.
The future just got a little bit darker.
O, Discordia!

All joking aside, this is who is now president of the United States. I don't care for either Clinton or Trump, but I understand peoples fears when you see stuff like this.

Anyhow, I wish my American friends all the best... have a feeling you're gonna need it. Stay safe.

By this notion, all of HRC's voters are complicit in calling blacks "super predators". You set the standard, you adhere to the standard.

It's only politics, as someone on antidepressants myself for a good while now I recommend staying away from any news whatsoever... you'll feel better for it. Honestly, news coverage is designed to be negative which doesn't help at all when you have depression.

Good advice here honestly. I avoided politics until ~2 years ago. I wish I still avoided it. I managed to duck out for a couple months leading up to tonight and was much happier for it. Now to do it for an extended amount of time.

And a little secret: you don't have to actively root out backwards, racist, bigoted people. Society as a whole have already decided where we are heading and it is time to come together and help one another move forward. The dumb people will be left behind to the shadows. You'll never eliminate evil... but you will make it virtually impossible for it to exist in modern society in any meaningful capacity. Cheers all. Let's work together. Don't panic... we will be ok.

That's true but I would say statements like that are a boon for trump while clinton supporters try and fail to wave it away as a thing of the past. I wouldn't consider them to be equal sins either. Considering how thoroughly republicans won you can see why people might think that people supporting the party agree with him. That said, I would have voted Hillary if I was in the US just to stop trump from winning and I don't agree with her on much, if anything, so you can't assign intent to votes so easily.

@onemanarmyy: 2016 already took care of most of the awesome musicians, so there's that.

@rxryan: I'm not here trying to argue I voted for Hilary because she represented me as a human being. You're trying to say that Trump was a success because Republican's are tired of being labeled as bigots, while everything about him represents the opposite. My vote for Hilary was not meant to prove anything to anybody else. That parallel doesn't really work.

The problem is most people don't know or aren't old enough to even remember that, trump was saying racist shit just a few months ago lol. I think it be pretty hard to find somebody who hasn't heard at least one of Trumps racist or sexist rants.

FYI that's one of my main reasons for never voting for Hilary btw, in this or any past election. The only reason this race was even close was because both parties chose the absolute worst candidates available.

And knowingly supporting someone who you know brags about sexual assault absolutely makes someone complicit in it, and it sure doesn't disprove the stereotype people have about republicans. *shrugs*

I'm a privileged white male and I feel destroyed; I can't even imagine what it feels like to be a minority right now. 2016 has been the worst; 2017-2020's not looking so hot either.

Damn, America. I thought us in the UK voting for Brexit was stupid but this...

Yep. No Man's Sky is the GOTY we deserve :P

I'm really sorry folks. I wish the best for you and your country going forward. This sucks.

Democrats lost because the middle and working classes felt they had someone who actually cared about them. Hillary was the politician of the ultra rich and the ultra poor, she was a corrupt bedfellow of Wall Street and a horrible person to boot. This is 100% the fault of the DNC and Hillary supporters. Sanders could have easily beaten him, but the establishment wanted the annoited queen, not the humble oaf.

This is pretty nice no matter what side you fall on. Thank you Stephen colbert.

Disgusted.

This is such a surreal thing. I'm sorry America, I would be fucking out if it if I was American right now.
I'm really curious to see the first episode of Colbert and Daily with this news, I have no idea how the liberals are gonna respond to this. Lots of kill me now jokes I guess.

As a Pennsylvania native who has two parents who worked in manufacturing and both lost their jobs when their company decided to close the plant and reopen it in Mexico before either of them were able to retire, I've got some bad fucking news for anyone who voted for Trump because they think those jobs are coming back. They aren't. That ship has sailed. The plant was 500,000 sq ft in size on a 70 acre campus. The infrastructure required to support such a thing has collapsed. The wages required to keep it competitive would now be below minimum. And automation is slowly but surely creeping into these sectors and will continue to do so.

This incident is not isolated. The circumstances required for its revival are not unique. And if manufacturing ever returns, it won't employ the people who hope it will.

Ugh, this election really put a point on the broken aspects of the US election system for me.

1) the messed up primary system. For Democrats, it's very questionable whether the party candidate actually reflected the will of party *members* vs. party *leaders*. For Republicans, at least it's apparent that Trump had real support within the party, but at the same time his nomination resulted in obvious cracks forming among the elite (fueled largely by the ugliness of that season).

2) mirroring that, the insanity of the electoral college...how does it even make sense to allow a 1% swing to utterly change the outcome of the election? If you live in a non-swing state and aren't voting majority, you're practically disenfranchised. While in swing states you get to enjoy pandering, deception, and suppression tactics. It sucks that on a state-by-state basis, the existing structure does serve those in power, and so it's hard to imagine this changing...but I'd much prefer a system where every vote was worth the same.

3) Partisanship. I know people who voted Trump because he's a "republican" and people who voted Hillary because she's a "democrat". Without really trying to figure out whether the candidates' values (such as they are) or policy positions actually align with why their ideas of what those parties represent. This doesn't seem like a rare thing...the rhetoric by both parties leans heavily on partisanship & cherry-picked stereotypes, while ignoring actual facts about the candidates / platforms. I'm probably too cynical about this one but I don't really trust either party to act 100% in good faith.

Personally I'm not happy Trump won, but I'm not really that surprised. HRC is a disaster of a candidate.

Did somebody say Warren G?

@themanwithnoplan: Thanks, I needed that before bed.

Feels like shit but it's not much different than it always is honestly.

Which amazes me since he's been the ultra rich his entire life and brags about the benefits he blamed Clinton for lol, which is hilarious since Hillary was the only of the two to actually be middle class at any point. I don't think that had all that much to do with it honestly, i also don't think it was the majority of "hey we aren't racists!" i think it was the emails especially being brought up a few days before election(for what turned out to be no reason). People don't trust Clinton, and for good reason, why they trust Trump though I will never understand. Wiki leaks had a lot to do with it as well, even if half the shit isn't even verified it didn't even need to be. Clinton was bad, but i think after 4 years the country would survive, if Trump does half of what he plans who knows what shape this country (or world for that matter) will be in.

i am destroyed.

If you're going to look on the brighter side, there will definitely be reform and more questioning going on after this election. The DNC is going to have to really go through some reform as well as the GOP, that is if the economy doesn't tank tomorrow and Russia doesnt invade the Baltics... otherwise we will just get 4 years of the DNC blaming Trump for all the problems and how Hillary was this Knight in shining armor that could have stopped it all when that isn't really the case. The media itself was incredibly ignorant on their polls. Did they just forget about polling rural white non-educated America? This really shows how naive most people are to discount that huge population and how one person can just say a few words to ignite a massive turnout in this area. They probably will be the new face of prime voters for the next decade unless in these next 4-8 years they finally figure out that Republicans aren't really for them.

@spaceinsomniac: Bravo for something other than Regulate.

(I mean, I love Regulate, but it's still nice see someone pull something else from that reference.)

Well everyone, I hope you can all hold strong for the next four years. At this time I recall the regretfully earned cynicism, bitterness, and skepticism toward my fellow Americans from eight years of Bush. For those who also remember that time I think we will need to be prepared for much worse. As Austin Walker said on Waypoint's podcast yesterday "Things were easier before you knew you were surrounded by snakes. We all just thought 'well, of course there's a snake or two but you feel like it's mostly iguanas out there.' Turns out, lotta hidden snakes". I fear it's going to be harder to live in America for a long time. Perhaps steel yourself with everything you learned from previous harder times but also do just about everything you can to keep your heart strong, take the time for whatever it is that can keep your hopes up, and be safe. It's going to be a long journey and doubt there will be much good to be found in it.

"Even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise".

@mirado: Oh, I agree. Those jobs are never coming back. These people are going to be worse off than they are now. The best they can hope for from Trump are infrastructure jobs that they could have had with Clinton. That's something both of them were promoting.

The results are so surprising to everyone because of threads like this.

The silent majority can't talk about supporting Trump for fear of being demonized and called an uneducated bigot, which has been implied here. I'm not saying Trump was my first choice, but there's absolutely no way I could support Hilary. No way.

@microshock: it's a bubble effect. In the other now defunct political thread at one point I said Trump would win because there are a ton of angry people in the shadows ready to support him. I then changed my mind after the media completely backed Hillary and tried to destroy him. If anything, I'm happy to know that the Media and money has far less influence than it used to in politics. Trump basically ran a campaign through social media with a fraction of the financial, media, and political support of Clinton.

@microshock: A bunch of individuals expressing displeasure with Trump immediately after he gets elected president is not a "hive-mind". As shocking as it may be, there are lots of people out there that don't like Trump, and it also may shock you (it shouldn't) that the majority of the Giant Bomb userbase is going to be those that don't. You should probably accept that, because it's not going to change just because you don't like it.

I voted for McCain in 2008. Trump goes beyond partisan politics. He's just a shit choice.

@sergio: not at all true. He wants to limit trade agreements and punish companies who abuse outsourcing. At the least it will make companies tread carefully over the next few years. Also, TPP is probably done, thank god.

The biggest benefit to most families is his economic plan, especially for childcare. Its going to save my family thousands of dollars a year.

What? The pussy grabber should get a minimum amount of supporters no matter where you go on the internet?

Grow up?

Numb the pain, America.

@wynnduffy: Of course not. But we now have the most unqualified person in our nations history as president. Regardless of someone's personal politics it's hard to deny that man has no business being in the white house, I think that 100% demystifies the presidency and shows not only children, but everyone else watching around the world that you don't have to do anything to become a leader. No applying yourself, no actual plan or thought process, no experience whatsoever. Trump has an entire platform that terrifies me not only as a trans woman, but as someone who, like alot of people, look to our representatives to have our best I interests in heart. Maybe everything will be fine, but with a Republican controlled senate and congress with Donald Trump at the helm, I fail to feel anything but despair for the next four years (maybe two if things get balanced in 2018). I understand though why some would feel different as that's politics for you.

Wow. All the polls said (except maybe LA Times) Clinton is gonna win. Just wow.

Is there any redeeming qualities of Trump now? If he is the type who like to play up and off the crowd, then maybe we haven't seen the real Trump yet.

Trump will have qualified people around him and he's already backing down alot. It will be 4-8 years of republican policy. Not cool for everyone, but the USA will survive.

But maybe it's time to think about the political climate and process in the USA? Because this election was some of the most negative and rotten shit ever with two candidates I would never want to vote for.

Trump isn't the problem for LGBT, Pence is. Hillary is hardly pro-LGBT when she has repeatedly said marriage is between a man and a woman. She's only flipped on that recently for votes, who is anyone to say any of her talk would be held up in office?

I'm more worried about what would have happened if Hillary got in and escalated tensions further with Russia.

Anyhoo, people can hate on Trump all they like. The fact of the matter is, the democrats chose a terrible candidate and that's why we're in this situation. The democrats did the politics version of what Microsoft did with the Xbox One launch. Bernie would have won by a landslide.

@giantlennonx_x:

As a trans woman, what terrifies you about Trump?
I'm not asking to be facetious, I'd just like to know.

Also, I think it's unfair to say Trump hasn't worked hard, and that he hasn't applied himself.
He built a billion dollar empire-- that doesn't come easy.
I know he's not a career politician, but I think that's the last thing our country needs.

@gundogan: Trump has called climate change a Chinese hoax, he will have a climate change denier leading the EPA, and he will have a fossil fuel lobbyist leading the DOE. Not to mention we still have a Republican congress. There's a pretty good chance things are not going to be fine.

Just woke up. Best of luck and love to you guys and well, everyone, really.

He's come around a lot on LGBT issues but he's not as strong in favor as most of us would hope. He has two major issues with the LGBT community, the first is that he brought Pence in as his VP who is extremely anti-LGBT, and the second is that he would vote in favor of banning trans individuals from using the bathroom of their choice.

@razzuel: I said will survive, not be fine and make it a happy place for everyone. :)

Anyone have a status update from Bill Clinton? I would hate to be him right now.

Fuck me, I knew it was going to happen. Love to all you yanks, I truly hope things aren't going to be as bad as we all fear. Fuck Trump.

Well, the one benefit for all of us is that we probably aren't going to war with Russia, something I was pretty sure was going to happen if Clinton was elected.

I need to follow less democrats on social media. Don't know if this is how it is in other European countries, but in mine, the normal saying is that democrats are the closest we've got to our own parties and they're still farther to the right than anyone here. The republicans are basically the bad guys every year, in Ryckert speech, and these last years in particular, I've heard nothing but shit about Trump. Article after tweet after rant after news report, all of it making him seem completely despicable. I was expecting, and hoping, that Clinton would take it easily. So what am I supposed to take away from all this? I don't care about politics a lot. I can't even vote in this election. But it was freaking unavoidable to see it all the time! I wish I could vote! But for all the 100% negative coverage I've gotten of Trump, that's the guy you as a nation support. It's so frustrating to sit and watch, and my only consolation is that maybe the awful things I've read are only part of the truth because the American video game people I follow are part of a bubble, and republicans are all humans after all. The alternatives are all worse. From the reactions, you'd think it's the end of the world, and I can't believe that's the case.