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Internet Time Opinions?

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#1  Edited By Phished0ne

Firstly i know this should probably be a poll, but i didnt feel like posting a poll and getting 3 or 4 "what the hell?" responses before i posted the explanatory post.  
 
After listening to the heated discussion between Jeff and Ryan on tonights ustream,  i figured i should start this thread. What is giantbomb's opinion on switching to some sort of universal internet time(the most famous attempt that this being Swatch Beats)?  
 
  I think a decimal time system would be easier, and the idea of not having to worry about time zones is quite appealing, although I can see how the switch over could be more trouble than it would be worth in the end.  But imagine being able to tell any of your friends, no matter where  they are "okay i'll be on Modern Warfare at 263", instead of saying 12:20AM(using my current time as an example), and having to fiddle around with all these nasty time zones.

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#2  Edited By Tolshakk

  Sounds completely asinine. Our system already seems a little arbitrary, but it seems even more senseless to bastardize the context morning and night times. If we were machines, I guess this would be logical, but you know... what with the sleep and all. If anything, it makes learning time that less tactile.
 
 And regardless, this doesn't address the issue of the Earth spinning, and people being at different locations therein. You'll still have to pull the abacus out to figure what a reasonable time would be to schedule a game with someone across the globe.

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#3  Edited By zanzibarbreeze

It would be impossible to get the whole world to relearn time systems on the whim of a few people.

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#4  Edited By ben_h

I have a Swatch watch.  It lacks a dial for internet time but it's quite comfortable.  I wanted to get one with that time just for the novelty but I couldn't find one.

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#5  Edited By Tolshakk

ChristOnIce
Qualifying time in terms of AM and PM is hollow nowadays. Likewise, quantifying time in terms of the base 6 feels a little contrived on a anemically practical. Only when you consider the system's roots in early empiricism does it all add-up.

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#6  Edited By diz
@Tolshakk said:

" Qualifying time in terms of AM and PM is hollow nowadays.

 What does that mean?
 
 @Tolshakk said:
"Likewise, quantifying time in terms of the base 6 feels a little contrived on a anemically practical."
What has base 6 to do with time? And what does "anemically practical" mean?
 
@Tolshakk said:
"Only when you consider the system's roots in early empiricism does it all add-up. "
Isn't "empicism" a philosophy of sensory experience? I thought the Babylonians used base 60 and 12 hour day-splits could have been down to human physiology (knuckles in a hand). If this all adds up for you, please show your workings.
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#7  Edited By Ben99
@Phished0ne: 
the math is not that complicated to measure so I guess it's no big deal
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#8  Edited By Jimbo

Like, why do we even need time, bro?

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#9  Edited By Phished0ne

wow, i am kinda surprised, i would've figured the nature of this site would''ve caused more people to be in support of it. 
 
 I personally have a lot of friends in different places  (mostly people i've met playing games) and i think that some sort of worldwide time would make things easier, especially when you consider i have to do the time zone math whenever they to a live show here. I've missed almost  every live ustream thats been done on this site, simply because i forget it's based in CA. 

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#10  Edited By tineyoghurt

I think we can get by with our current timekeeping until we find Prothean artifacts on Mars. Then we will have to adapt Council Standard Time. (I don't quite remember how that worked but I think 1 hour equals 100 minutes and 1 minute is 100 seconds.( This is explained in the first Mass Effect novel.( This is yet another parenthesis.)))

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#11  Edited By eric_buck
@Ben_H said:
" I have a Swatch watch.  It lacks a dial for internet time but it's quite comfortable.  I wanted to get one with that time just for the novelty but I couldn't find one. "
So you have a Swiss Watch Watch?
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#12  Edited By Tolshakk

@diz 
 There's no real purpose behind using two 12-hour intervals to tell time in the modern era. 
 
You're right, base 6 isn't correct, I was thinking of just a simple divisor for seconds and hours. Anyways, "anemically practical," was supposed to evoke a bare bones assessment, or something that seems reasonable without tacking on the mathematical inner workings behind it. 
 
Some consider the Babylonians the earliest empiricist, as they were among the first civilizations to champion logic and rationality above religious dictum and hegemony. Granted, they weren't measuring Earth's rotation to generate their figures for time, but they were at least experimenting with the idea that microcosm (Human bone structure) mimics the macrocosm (Day/Night cycle.) 
 
Hope this helped

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#13  Edited By wrecks

Time is an illusion.

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#14  Edited By MikkaQ
@wrecks said:
" Time is an illusion. "
Lunchtime, doubly so. 
 
But a universal internet time could be neat, seeing as the web never sleeps. But good luck implementing it!
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#15  Edited By singular

I just watched the record of the Jeff and Ryan arguing about universal time. In my opinion something like the Swatch Beats could be an addition to the time reference we use now. But it couldn't replace it. First of all our time is measured by the movement of astronomical bodies and the observation of light. Second, if you really wanted to implement an universal time, which region is the fixpoint then? Those are some the arguments Ryan could have used, but instead he went on calling all of us dumb and the Swiss people nazi lovers. No good and in Jeff's place I would have stopped the conversation right there.
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#16  Edited By Phished0ne
@XII_Sniper said:
" @wrecks said:
" Time is an illusion. "
Lunchtime, doubly so. 
You should send that in to the reader's digest, they've got a page for people like you. 
 
But , after thinking about implementation it would be nearly impossible to put in effect, regardless it is nice to have as a reference, now to get all my friends in other time-zones to do it too. 
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#17  Edited By singular
@Phished0ne said:
" @XII_Sniper said:
" @wrecks said:
" Time is an illusion. "
Lunchtime, doubly so. 
You should send that in to the reader's digest, they've got a page for people like you.  But , after thinking about implementation it would be nearly impossible to put in effect, regardless it is nice to have as a reference, now to get all my friends in other time-zones to do it too.  "

Well it could be implemented in a very local sense. Giant Bomb for example could segment their local day in 1000 segments and put a counter on their site. But on the other hand a simple time countdown could do the same for them if they'd announce anything. A live stream for example. Same goes for all the other stuff you would want to do with friends. You just say "let's meet in 4 hours" instead of "Let's meet at 5pm my time".  Hey, but what do I know know? I'm just a dumb and stupid Nazi-loving European German who can't tell the difference between am and pm and gets confused by change ;)
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#18  Edited By halberdierv2
@Tolshakk: why change something that everyone is used to to facilitate the whim and fancy of a few?
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#19  Edited By shaun832

I live in Australia but I easily work around time differences. A unified time for the internet would be nice but I'm okay with the way it is.