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#1  Edited By AgentJ

The other night, i decided to look through my music collection on itunes, and when the program booted up, it didn't have any music in it. It had me do the startup stuff like make it search for Mp3s and all, and when i did that, many of the songs were missing their art, it didn't recognize any of them as purchased, and all of my beautiful playlists were gone. (also, it counted some counter strike sound effects as songs) The worst part is that i had finally almost rated all of them, but now the majority of them are missing their stars. Is there any way i can get the stars back?

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#2  Edited By Mushir

Hmmm. Did this just happen randomly or did you do something with your computer before this happened?

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#3  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

Did it come up with any messages or anything? Saying something along the lines of "You need an itunes library file, would you like to create one or locate an existing one?"?

Because it sounds like a problem with your library file.

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#4  Edited By Wolverine

I have had so many similar problems over the years with iTunes. If I were you I would just get a Zune. I does a really good job of keeping valuable information about your taste in music and really personalizes your music experience.

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#5  Edited By Karmum
Wolverine said:
"I have had so many similar problems over the years with iTunes. If I were you I would just get a Zune. I does a really good job of keeping valuable information about your taste in music and really personalizes your music experience. "
Aside from adding some random music I don't want on it, it really is a pretty good alternative to iTunes. I would use it, if last.fm was compatible with it.
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#6  Edited By AgentJ

Before I got this Ipod about 3 years or so ago i debated as to whether i should get an Ipod or a Zune, and ultimately chose the Ipod for a number of reasons.

MattyFTM said:
"Did it come up with any messages or anything? Saying something along the lines of "You need an itunes library file, would you like to create one or locate an existing one?"?Because it sounds like a problem with your library file."
Thats exactly what happened. Is there a way to fix it?
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#7  Edited By Snail

Why do people rate their songs on iTunes?!

To remind them if they like it or not?

And why is there a one star rating?

Why the fuck would someone have a song they hate so much they would rate it one star?!

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#8  Edited By Oriental_Jams

Well, I lost £25 worth of songs when I switched computers, bringing the hard drive over didn't seem to make iTunes care.

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#9  Edited By AgentJ
Snail said:
"Why do people rate their songs on iTunes?!To remind them if they like it or not?And why is there a one star rating?Why the fuck would someone have a song they hate so much they would rate it one star?!"
The reason i rate mine is so that i can easily make playlists of all of my favorite songs without picking them out manually. Theres a feature called "smart playlist" and it allows you to simply make a playlist out of, for example, songs that have 4 stars, are within (or if you want, without) the rock genre, and limit it to songs of 4 minutes or more, or 3 minutes or less, or whatever. I find it really convinient. BTW i do have a few one star songs on my ipod but they are there for sentimental reasons, or because they were part of a cd that has great songs on it and doesn't work without the entirety of the album.
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#10  Edited By Kajaah117
Snail said:
"Why do people rate their songs on iTunes?!To remind them if they like it or not?And why is there a one star rating?Why the fuck would someone have a song they hate so much they would rate it one star?!"
Thank you! I've been thinking the same thing every time I see the stars by my songs. I feel that, if the music is in my library, it damn well better be some 5 star stuff. Why waste space on my PC and my iPod on songs that I don't feel are worthy of my time?
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#11  Edited By OldManLollipop

OLD MEDIA FORMATS WIN AGAIN! BWAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

*hoards vinyl*

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#12  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator
AgentJ said:
"MattyFTM said:
"Did it come up with any messages or anything? Saying something along the lines of "You need an itunes library file, would you like to create one or locate an existing one?"?Because it sounds like a problem with your library file."
Thats exactly what happened. Is there a way to fix it?
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You'll need to find the original itunes library file, and start using that again. I don't know exactly how to do this, but google should be able to help.
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#13  Edited By Karmum
Oriental_Jams said:
"Well, I lost £25 worth of songs when I switched computers, bringing the hard drive over didn't seem to make iTunes care."
It isn't saved to your account, kind of like on your Xbox Live account?
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#14  Edited By Kajaah117
Karmum said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"Well, I lost £25 worth of songs when I switched computers, bringing the hard drive over didn't seem to make iTunes care."
It isn't saved to your account, kind of like on your Xbox Live account?"
Purchases are actually saved to your account, you just have to authorize each PC to use them. You can authorize up to 5 PCs at a time.

So... some people here need to use the iTunes help documents a little more often.
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#15  Edited By toowalrus

This has happened to me a couple of times, but it isn't really a big deal, since I keep all of my iPod music in a folder labeled "iPod music." When shit goes down, I can just drag it back into iTunes, update genius and re-sync overnight.

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#16  Edited By Snail
AgentJ said:
"Snail said:
"Why do people rate their songs on iTunes?!To remind them if they like it or not?And why is there a one star rating?Why the fuck would someone have a song they hate so much they would rate it one star?!"
The reason i rate mine is so that i can easily make playlists of all of my favorite songs without picking them out manually. Theres a feature called "smart playlist" and it allows you to simply make a playlist out of, for example, songs that have 4 stars, are within (or if you want, without) the rock genre, and limit it to songs of 4 minutes or more, or 3 minutes or less, or whatever. I find it really convinient. BTW i do have a few one star songs on my ipod but they are there for sentimental reasons, or because they were part of a cd that has great songs on it and doesn't work without the entirety of the album.
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So making a manual playlist is more trouble than rating all the songs in your library?
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#17  Edited By AgentJ
Miniman said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"Well, I lost £25 worth of songs when I switched computers, bringing the hard drive over didn't seem to make iTunes care."
Errr, can't you re-download the songs off iTunes that you purchased from the iTunes store?"
The songs are still there, but Itunes doesn't recognize them as purchased

Snail said:
"AgentJ said:
"Snail said:
"Why do people rate their songs on iTunes?!To remind them if they like it or not?And why is there a one star rating?Why the fuck would someone have a song they hate so much they would rate it one star?!"
The reason i rate mine is so that i can easily make playlists of all of my favorite songs without picking them out manually. Theres a feature called "smart playlist" and it allows you to simply make a playlist out of, for example, songs that have 4 stars, are within (or if you want, without) the rock genre, and limit it to songs of 4 minutes or more, or 3 minutes or less, or whatever. I find it really convinient. BTW i do have a few one star songs on my ipod but they are there for sentimental reasons, or because they were part of a cd that has great songs on it and doesn't work without the entirety of the album.
"
So making a manual playlist is more trouble than rating all the songs in your library?"
I'm kind of a list whore, so yes. It would drive me crazy to know that I may have missed a song i wanted but forgot about, and in manual playlists that has happened a number of times (when you have between 3 and 4 thousand songs on your ipod it sometimes gets hard to keep track of them all). For example, the other day i had my Ipod on my five-star selections and heard a song that I hadn't heard in a while, and most likely would have been lost while making a playlist of that genre.
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#18  Edited By Snail
AgentJ said:
"I'm kind of a list whore"
Say no more. That explains all.
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#19  Edited By AgentJ

Is it at all possible to import my library from my Ipod to my computer? If it is possible, then it will be easy to fix this whole problem.

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#21  Edited By Gizmo

Worst case scenario ; download the missing songs again for free.

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#22  Edited By LordAndrew
Kajaah117 said:
"Karmum said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"Well, I lost £25 worth of songs when I switched computers, bringing the hard drive over didn't seem to make iTunes care."
It isn't saved to your account, kind of like on your Xbox Live account?"
Purchases are actually saved to your account, you just have to authorize each PC to use them. You can authorize up to 5 PCs at a time.So... some people here need to use the iTunes help documents a little more often."
So shouldn't he be able to disable it on one of his other five PCs and then enable it on the one he wants? What's the process for that?
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#23  Edited By Red

I've had this before, but I just looked at my itunes folder and there was a lone iTunes LIbrary file. I double clicked on it.

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#24  Edited By cspiffo
AgentJ said:
"The other night, i decided to look through my music collection on itunes, and when the program booted up, it didn't have any music in it. It had me do the startup stuff like make it search for Mp3s and all, and when i did that, many of the songs were missing their art, it didn't recognize any of them as purchased, and all of my beautiful playlists were gone. (also, it counted some counter strike sound effects as songs) The worst part is that i had finally almost rated all of them, but now the majority of them are missing their stars. Is there any way i can get the stars back?"
So you've finally found the biggest flaw with Itunes.  This happened to me once a couple years ago and since then I have never purchased from Itunes again.  Apple takes a hands off approach to Digital Rights.  After you've purchased a DRM'd song It's your job to back it up correctly.  ie burn it to a disc or backup to another drive.  If you do screw up or Itunes crashes then they will "let you" redownload your songs once if you ask them.  I don't like it and Microsoft and many other companies have more elegant DRM strategies which allow you to redownload purchased items over and over again.

With all that being said,  never buy Itunes music.  Just go to amazon and buy DRM free MP3's.  They work with Itunes and Ipods just fine.  Maybe things will change when the whole Itunes music store goes DRM free in April.
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#25  Edited By dj

Bummer.

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#26  Edited By Alexander
Karmum said:
"Wolverine said:
"I have had so many similar problems over the years with iTunes. If I were you I would just get a Zune. I does a really good job of keeping valuable information about your taste in music and really personalizes your music experience. "
Aside from adding some random music I don't want on it, it really is a pretty good alternative to iTunes. I would use it, if last.fm was compatible with it."
It does, it's just not official and only works with some Zune models I believe. It's called Zenses and it's not the only one. There is also software that lets you use a Zune with WMP/iTunes/Winamp.
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#27  Edited By Kajaah117
LordAndrew said:
"Kajaah117 said:
"Karmum said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"Well, I lost £25 worth of songs when I switched computers, bringing the hard drive over didn't seem to make iTunes care."
It isn't saved to your account, kind of like on your Xbox Live account?"
Purchases are actually saved to your account, you just have to authorize each PC to use them. You can authorize up to 5 PCs at a time.So... some people here need to use the iTunes help documents a little more often."
So shouldn't he be able to disable it on one of his other five PCs and then enable it on the one he wants? What's the process for that?"
It's as easy as opening up iTunes, clicking on the "store" tab and selecting "de-authorize computer."

Once that's done, any other computer you want to work with iTunes purchases, do the same process but select "authorize computer."