Just finished a term paper on Holocaust denial...

Dude these guys are so damn nuts.  I traced the development of the historiography which was kinda tough because I had to find a continuity in a school of crazyyyy thought.  I will blow your mind...one of the main arguments denier put forth is that since some Jews survived the Holocaust it never happened.  The Nazis were so efficient that if they had wanted to eliminate all the Jews they would have done so and since they didn't is proof it didn't happen.  CRAZY

They're nuts...
 
I hate that owl in your avatar almost as much as the Nazis.

Owls are wise

Wow.....that's just bad..... some people are so ignorant to the world.

It's really interesting, but only because of how bat shit crazy it is.  Read Lying About Hitler by Richard J Evans...stay away from Denying the Holocaust by Deborah Lipstadt because she is really unfair to the historical facts of the Holocaust.

Some people are super ignorant and disrespectful... But I'm intrigued, what other crazy theories did they have as to why they feel it never happened?

They do realize that there's video proof of the Holocaust, right? And not just Schindler's List or anything; actual soldiers took a camera into the camps, or something. I can't remember the details, so I'll rely on somebody with a link :P.

It was the Illuminati, the Third Reich was just a front.

...that's like doubting America went to the moon.   Those people who doubt are nuts. 
 
Also owls are kinda dumb.

Nothing amazes me anymore! 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society     
 
Yup, there are people that still think the world is flat. I rest my case.

prescott bush (bush senior's father, george w. bushes grandfather) funded the third reich (illuminati), they caught him then he was pardonned. There will be another holocast with the new world order, their depopulation plan to control the masses, can't have everyone rebel now can we or that's difficult to control? For owls, it's very important to illuminati, they worship owls too for bohemian grove in their creamation of care pagan like ritual. In fact there is a small owl in the u.s dollar bill which probally makes reference to this. Owls are dumb, however their ability to see in the dark means they can see, their eyes illuminate the dark.

How people can deny such a thing, I do not know. A terrible scar on the history of the human race, and people try to make it sound like a myth. Just awful. There's a film called 'The boy in the pyjamas' (or something like that) about a Nazi officer who works in a concentration camp, and his son becomes friends with one of the Jewish boys he sees through the gates. I wont ruin the end, but it's a very good movie.

Is this your first time realizing people are pants-on-head retarded? 
 
It only gets worse from here, son

 Yeah, I don't see how anyone can deny this. I just watched the whole World at War BBC series last year and the footage is just horrifying. I guess they would argue that the executions were just random but they were far from random  (and you can't argue they didn't happen). Anyone that looks back at history will see that Hitler saw Bolshevism (Nazism's mortal enemy) as a Jewish conspiracy. This was his motivation to wipe out an entire race from Europe, by removing it's cause.  Regarding that they could have wiped out every Jew if they wanted, that is nonsense. I don't think people understand the logistics of war and occupation. Ultimately the Nazi's realistic capabilities have been exaggerated over the years upon myth. They were a nasty force, but were really outmatched once their blitzkrieg strategy failed. 

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But yes, Holocaust denial sucks. I saw Auschwitz, I've spoken to people with first hand experience and their relatives and noone can deny how harrowing it all seems to them.

Wait, I don't get it...what would anyone gain from denying the holocaust? ...and don't give me that Illuminati bullshit.

   Bush and the Union Banking Corporation

Bush was one of seven directors of the Union Banking Corporation, an investment bank controlled by the Thyssen family, which was seized in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act as being owned by "enemy aliens." The assets were held by the government for the duration of the war, then returned afterward.

In an article relying on conspiracy theorist John Buchanan's work, The Guardian stated that the company formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world. The Alien Property Custodian records state "Whether all or part of the funds held by Union Banking Corporation, or companies associated with it, belong to Fritz Thyssen could not be established in this investigation."

In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League said:

“

Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.

   

" Wait, I don't get it...what would anyone gain from denying the holocaust? "

" It's actually illegal to do so in my country (the Netherlands)  ^^ "

" Wait, I don't get it...what would anyone gain from denying the holocaust? ...and don't give me that Illuminati bullshit. "

 @Galiant said:

" Wait, I don't get it...what would anyone gain from denying the holocaust? ...and don't give me that Illuminati bullshit. "

" @Jwkokosmakroon said:

" It's actually illegal to do so in my country (the Netherlands)  ^^ "

...say what?  What else can't you say up there? "

" @Galiant said:

" Wait, I don't get it...what would anyone gain from denying the holocaust? ...and don't give me that Illuminati bullshit. "

Racists don't want anyone sympathize with the Jewish people.  Don't bother trying to mention all the white people that died during WWII.  They won't listen. "

I recommend checking out "Voodoo Histories," by David Aaronovitch.  It's all about how conspiracy theories develop over time and then feed into popular consciousness.  I can't remember if he addresses Holocaust denialism in particular, but he talks about a lot of other anti-semitic conspiracies, like the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" forgeries.

" @Vitor: conspiracy theory? More like a conspiracy fact. You can google presscott sheldon bush on wiki if you want. 
  
He wasn't a nazi sympathizer as it said, however he's part of the illuminati funding the war because nothing keeps the banking elite (illuminati) more happy then to keep a war going on because of arms sales.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

   Bush and the Union Banking Corporation

Bush was one of seven directors of the Union Banking Corporation, an investment bank controlled by the Thyssen family, which was seized in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act as being owned by "enemy aliens." The assets were held by the government for the duration of the war, then returned afterward.

In an article relying on conspiracy theorist John Buchanan's work, The Guardian stated that the company formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world. The Alien Property Custodian records state "Whether all or part of the funds held by Union Banking Corporation, or companies associated with it, belong to Fritz Thyssen could not be established in this investigation."

In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League said:

“

Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.

   

"

" @KaosAngel said:

" @Jwkokosmakroon said:

" It's actually illegal to do so in my country (the Netherlands)  ^^ "

...say what?  What else can't you say up there? "

Hahaha well Mein Kampf is banned here too. That's basically it.. I don't mind, few people here do. Great country to live in btw ^^ "

" @KaosAngel said:

" @Jwkokosmakroon said:

" It's actually illegal to do so in my country (the Netherlands)  ^^ "

...say what?  What else can't you say up there? "

Hahaha well Mein Kampf is banned here too. That's basically it.. I don't mind, few people here do. Great country to live in btw ^^ "

I forget who it was but some comedian once had a joke about a group of Anti-semite architects who argue that the Holocaust Museum was never built. Damn I wish I could remember who that was.

" prescott bush (bush senior's father, george w. bushes grandfather) funded the third reich (illuminati), they caught him then he was pardonned. There will be another holocast with the new world order, their depopulation plan to control the masses, can't have everyone rebel now can we or that's difficult to control? For owls, it's very important to illuminati, they worship owls too for bohemian grove in their creamation of care pagan like ritual. In fact there is a small owl in the u.s dollar bill which probally makes reference to this. Owls are dumb, however their ability to see in the dark means they can see, their eyes illuminate the dark. "

" Nothing amazes me anymore! 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society      Yup, there are people that still think the world is flat. I rest my case. "

"  Read Lying About Hitler by Richard J Evans... "

Jews don't exist :(

I love the crazy old people! Their so fun to pick on. 
People are crazy, there doesn't need to be a reason for them to be.

I think denying it completely it's just bat ass crazy, but questioning it and demanding more research is common in history findings/research, however, if there are hidden agendas behind those request, they should be rightfully denied that request.

" Jews don't exist :( "

Holocaust deniers are idiots, considering it's ancient history and a very real threat like Obama being a Kenyan born secret Muslim actually exist.  Keep fear alive people, keep fear alive.  

@ape_dosmil:
@Bones8677: 
 
Well the deportation of the Jews was considered so terrible, and well established, that in order to never again have such a thing happen in our country the government decided to make denial of this heinous crime a legal offence. There were very few Dutch Jews left after the war, part of this harsh stance on Holocaust denial may also come from the fact that many Dutchmen readily cooperated with the Germans in deporting the Jews.

You have to look at this from a cultural and historical perspective. But if any Dutchman feels this violates his right to freedom of expression he's very welcome to try his luck at court. The European court if necessary, don't see that happening anytime soon though.

I see where you're coming from but try to look at it from our perspective, this recognises a very dark period in our history. One we're not very proud of. By having this law it was felt we would remember our part in it. We're not the only European nation to do so btw. 

Hope that helps you understand it better, if not... well you have your opinions I have mine. Yay freedom! ^^

My head is full of fuck right now. You don't even goddamn know.