@error5305: Other translations literally is, god favoring our undertaking. By god, they only refer to one god, even in the saying, in god we trust. That one god is satan for these ppl.
The other part of it is 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' which means, A new order of the ages. In other words a new world order.
Jay-z addressed all this illuminati stuff in the Rick Ross - Free Mason song here are his lyrics:
N-ggas couldn’t do nothing with me they put the devil on me I would have preferred if n-ggas squeeze the metal on me Rumours of Lucifer I don’t know who to trust whole world want my demise turn my music up here me clearly, if y’all niggas fear me just say y’all fear me f-ck all these fairy tales go to hell This is God engineering This is a Hail Mary pass, y’all interfering he without sin shall cast the first stone so y’all look in the mirror double check your appearance b-tch I said I was amazing Not that I’m a Mason It’s amazing that I made it though the maze that I was in Lord forgive me I never would’ve made it without sin Holy water my face in the basin Diamonds in my Rosary shows He forgave him B-tch I’m red hot, I’m on my third six but the devil I’m not My Jesus peice flooded but thou shall not covet keep your eyes off my cupboard I’m a bad motherf-cker it’s HOV just say you love it
I think Jay called it. People can't believe someone can have so much success so they bring all this crap that he had the help of a secret society.
MC hammer is an idiot trying to use Jay-z fame to get his music out. Too bad the music isn't good.
So, uh... how does this thread have 7000+ views? You do know that conspiracy theories are formulated and believed by people with little knowledge of how government actually works, right?
I like how any thread mentioning conspiracies of illuminati turns HitmanAgent47 into a kid in a candy store. Aren't there better things to obsess over?
@jediknight00719: Here is jay-z's interview, you can tell he's caught like a deer in the headlights. If he said he belives in one god, not religion, he is talking about satan. I mean even the american dollar bill says in god we trust, or in satan we trust.
Freemason ppl has their own handshake to let others know of their status even obama has this style of handshake. You want to learn more about these handshakes, then go research it.
However rihanna is more open about her devil worshipping
" @jediknight00719: Here is jay-z's interview, you can tell he's caught like a deer in the headlights. If he said he belives in one god, not religion, he is talking about satan. I mean even the american dollar bill says in god we trust, or in satan we trust.
Freemason ppl has their own handshake to let others know of their status even obama has this style of handshake. You want to learn more about these handshakes, then go research it.
However rihanna is more open about her devil worshipping
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The amount of absurdity in those videos is amazing especially the last last part on Jay-Z admitting to being a Free Mason. LMAO, he says "And ain't nobody fresher/ I'm in Maison, Uh! Martin Margiela" Thats a clothing line and its designer. Haha.
@Manhattan_Project: I am aware of that and i'm not talking about that, I was talking about the rest of the video you seem to miss. Who knows, rappers uses subliminal messages all the time. Watch near the end of this video. 666 murda murda jesus.
@HitmanAgent47: Your standards for what constitutes "evidence" are probably the lowest I've ever seen for any argument, ever. All of the videos you've posted here are total garbage. The Rhianna one actually hurts your case.
I have to wonder: Why is it always the devoutly religious that fall for this shit? It seems there is a great schism in human thought, and we fall on opposite sides.
" rappers and their stupid immature fights.. 'dissing' each other in their music and having B33F fucking idiots "
Most metal music is embarrassing as fuck. Heavy make-up wearing, jive ass mofo's. They think they deep and dark, but that's just the way they like to receive it. What's even more embarrassing than their demeanours is their faux-existential angst, their supposed rage at society, when most clearly lived middle class upbringings, and pre-pubescent onstage antics which stick it to "the man", who most likely is their middle class father. Look, I can generalise as well.
FourWude tears this joint up....
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you're thinking of black metal, they are really into their shit, but lots of new age bands just do it because its fun, you should also research before you generalize an entire genre into one stupid ass mis informed post.
" rappers and their stupid immature fights.. 'dissing' each other in their music and having B33F fucking idiots "
Most metal music is embarrassing as fuck. Heavy make-up wearing, jive ass mofo's. They think they deep and dark, but that's just the way they like to receive it. What's even more embarrassing than their demeanours is their faux-existential angst, their supposed rage at society, when most clearly lived middle class upbringings, and pre-pubescent onstage antics which stick it to "the man", who most likely is their middle class father. Look, I can generalise as well.
FourWude tears this joint up....
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you're thinking of black metal, they are really into their shit, but lots of new age bands just do it because its fun, you should also research before you generalize an entire genre into one stupid ass mis informed post. "
Maybe you should STFU and understand the inherent irony in my post about mass generalisations. The core message of my post was about being stupid and generalising, and I did that by using a sardonic writing style whereby I make the original poster understand his mistakes by highlighting and twisting his own stance back on him.
@Zithe: whatever you say, I know your an atheist, you belive everything the media tells you and the government, you hate religion. Well let's take a look at riannah and her site. You can see the illuminati triangle with an eye on here site. I am not making this up and you can't fake this.
"@Zithe: whatever you say, I know your an atheist, you belive everything the media tells you and the government, you hate religion. Well let's take a look at riannah and her site. You can see the illuminati triangle with an eye on here site. I am not making this up and you can't fake this.
@LlamaLlama: he bashed religious ppl due to ignorance first. I'll keep atheist bashing to a minium, however you have to realise the occult is interwolven into the conspiracy theory. One world government, one currency, one religion, satanism. A new world order.
As soon as you mention religion, ppl gets mad. They outright dismiss the conspiracy because it goes against their established belif system. You can't get anymore ignorant than this, keep an open mind even if you don't belive in religion or satanism.
@HitmanAgent47: So it seems that the biggest thing you're missing here is a coherent proof of why belief in the Illuminati is correct. So you should totally do that instead of providing youtube clips of some pastor telling us what Jay-Z believes. If you would like to sway people to your "truth", and if you want it to be accessible for rational discussion then you have to give us a cogent argument.
The funny part is that as a Christian I believe that Christ's death and resurrection defeated death once and for all. I don't fear any man or any man's organization because my trust is placed solely in that of Jesus Christ and my faith that He was who He said He was: The Son of God. idk why MC Hammer feels the need to go after Jay-Z when that doesn't lead anyone to an understanding or faith in Christ. people like him are what give christians bad names. Just as all Muslims are NOT terrorists, so too all Christians are not lunatics that don't follow what the Bible says about how we are to represent ourselves as followers of Jesus. Remember, we all do stupid things, but don't lunp us all in with quran burners and abortion clinic bombings. some of us still stop to help the poor and feed orphans and help widows from time to time and don't diss other rappers who don't believe what we believe.
"@Zithe: whatever you say, I know your an atheist, you belive everything the media tells you and the government, you hate religion. Well let's take a look at riannah and her site. You can see the illuminati triangle with an eye on here site. I am not making this up and you can't fake this.
Good grief, not this again. And quit with the atheist bashing there. And serious, why would a ultra-powerful society want Jay-z as a member? "
To be fair, mass media has always been used as a means of propaganda dissemination.
This isn't anything new, heck even Ancient Egyptian Murals and hieroglyphic inscriptions had propaganda to mislead the masses. There's one well known one where the Egyptian Pharoah ordered his scribes to write into the walls of a temple that the Egyptians had been successful in a war against the Assyrian enemies, when clearly they had not.
In that respect, what better way to get a message across than through well known, revered individuals. The question is a bit moot then, it could quite easily be asked, why not?
" you belive everything the media tells you and the government, "
No...just no. I'm actually a fairly strong skeptic. That's how I became an atheist in the first place.
" you hate religion. "
Also not true. I believe everyone has the right to subscribe to whatever crazy ideas they want, including you. I will admit, though, that I tend to fight back when their beliefs bleed over into my own life.
Well let's take a look at riannah and her site. You can see the illuminati triangle with an eye on here site. I am not making this up and you can't fake this.
That triangle you had to draw yourself for clarification? Come on, man. There are two explanations for this: 1) You're a paranoid conspiracy nut who looks for things wherever he can find it. That picture is perfectly normal. 2) Rhianna is part of the Illuminati and, for some reason, decides she wants to give hints about it publicly even though this can only hurt her.
Which seems more plausible? (Not that I would expect you to be able to reach to a reasonable conclusion.)
"@Zithe: whatever you say, I know your an atheist, you belive everything the media tells you and the government, you hate religion. Well let's take a look at riannah and her site. You can see the illuminati triangle with an eye on here site. I am not making this up and you can't fake this.
If your too lazy to click on it, let me spell it out for you.
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Umm...that's the evidence? You (or someone else) drew a triangle in there and that's the proof? Sorry man, but that's really pushing it. I should draw a pentagram in the same space, but that doesn't mean anything.
" The funny part is that as a Christian I believe that Christ's death and resurrection defeated death once and for all. I don't fear any man or any man's organization because my trust is placed solely in that of Jesus Christ and my faith that He was who He said He was: The Son of God. idk why MC Hammer feels the need to go after Jay-Z when that doesn't lead anyone to an understanding or faith in Christ. people like him are what give christians bad names. Just as all Muslims are NOT terrorists, so too all Christians are not lunatics that don't follow what the Bible says about how we are to represent ourselves as followers of Jesus. Remember, we all do stupid things, but don't lunp us all in with quran burners and abortion clinic bombings. some of us still stop to help the poor and feed orphans and help widows from time to time and don't diss other rappers who don't believe what we believe. "
Erm... what's your post got to do with this thread? Effectively your saying, you have a different opinion. No one is questioning that. You're welcome to believe what you want as long as it pertains to you.
@Zithe: Okay, if that happens once it's a coincidence, there is an illuminati triangle with an eye right? I always belive three is a pattern, let's take a look at some of her concerts and older webpages to see if this isn't a coincidence. Who cares what you belive, your an atheist, you believe in nothing.
Here was one of her performances in a concert, we see this triangle again.
Then they add an eye on top that's shinning at the audience
Then now we have her on her old website with the same triangle with her eyes on top of the pyramid.
Anyone with half a brain will see this, go ahead and dismiss it, I don't have time to talk to you because I talked to tons of ppl on the site like you and I know your response. There will be like 30 replies trying to convince you and you will just get more and more angry about it. It's how you ppl think, you think you know everything about the world and that you can only understand what you see. I bet you also belive in ufos too right? Your belive system is engineered. By how angry other ppl gets mad at religion shows how evil your heart is. You ppl still don't get it, one government, one currency, one religion satanism. When they take over everything, you will all have to convert to satanism or die for their depopulation plan after martial law.
@HitmanAgent47: just wondering as i just went to the last page on this, are you serious about the jay-z hidden lucifer messages in that song or just kidding? b/c that song wasn't made by him. that preacher was just talking about something that he had no knowledge about in regard as to the history about where it came from. just so you know
" @Zithe: whatever you say, I know your an atheist, you belive everything the media tells you and the government, you hate religion. Well let's take a look at riannah and her site. You can see the illuminati triangle with an eye on here site. I am not making this up and you can't fake this.
If your too lazy to click on it, let me spell it out for you.
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That's it, I'm done. I'm never gonna read another post by you anymore no matter how entairtaining it is. You can't be serious, go back to your troll cave, you ARE RIDICULOUS. As some other european mention earlier on another thread, I'm glad there is an atlantic ocean between us because you are one serious nutjob.
@Buck: let me add to that. Riannah made this picture, not sure what it stands for, maybe the same triangle Jay-Z was throwing up?
more illuminati logo her old site her with the devil horns hand gesture If you haven't realised it by now the illuminati is a luciferian society which wants these singers to put out these satanic images so they try to subconciously influence your life. Some of you aren't smart enough to see the symbolism, I know some of you in the background understands or can see the pattern.
" @Ryax: I heard that story and 9/11 is from a bunch of arabs. You believe everything you hear? "
uuum are you serious? you have got to be the most stubborn ignorant person ever. 9/11 wasnt a conspiracy, tupac and biggie had shit going down because some one tried to kill tupac, the illuminaughty had nothing to do with it, east and west coast bullshit has been going down for a long ass time.
@Ryax: I don't give a shit what you think backstabber, why am I even talking to you and your network of backstabbers.The illuminati likes to first frame ppl for fake crimes, like they did with tupac. Tupac's only god can judge me now lyrics doesn't sit well with the killuminati, third of all who shot tupac? No one knows, some say cops did it. To miss sugh knight, well except his hand, with such careful aim and hit tupac, this guy was a skilled shot. You can't do that shooting sideways with a gun.
" So, uh... how does this thread have 7000+ views? You do know that conspiracy theories are formulated and believed by people with little knowledge of how government actually works, right? "
I made this thread to show how terrible the music video is, chill out.
@Barrock: No trust me, he helped shut down one of my pc screenshot thread before and some of these pc gamers made enemies with me in the past. I have a list of these ppl, it's not what you think. These ppl are antagonistic for a reason. I am cutting through the deception and saying his motivations, he gets angry when I argue with his best friend. But that's not what the thread is about.
Still look at all you evil ppl, as soon as religion was mentioned, you all lost your mind. Before that, when it wasn't involved, you listened. Talk about being full of shit. No matter how you slice it, the illuminati are satan worshippers where you like it or not. Your world leaders are all satanist.
" @Barrock: No trust me, he helped shut down one of my pc threads before and some of these pc gamers made enemies with me in the past. I have a list of these ppl, it's not what you think. These ppl are antagonistic for a reason. Still look at all you evil ppl, as soon as religion was mentioned, you all lost your mind. Before that, when it wasn't involved, you listened. Talk about being full of shit. "
Read what you wrote again dude. Now go watch a movie about someone is insane. You'll notice a similarity or two.
@Barrock: did you know I had a great pc screenshot thread on the forum? Maybe your new here, it has 50,000 views. By now it could of reached 100,000 views and be the biggest thread in the pc forum. If I can prove that and it got shut down by some of these antagonistic ppl, then go fuck yourself. That's why I called him a backstabber, for the record. They carefully shut down my thread and started another unimpressive thread here no one cares about with small screenshots no one clicks on. http://www.giantbomb.com/pc/60-94/post-your-pc-ingame-screenshots/35-270680/ I am explaining his antagonism towards me and his continual antagonism in the future. I am revealing his tactic like i'm revealing the illuminati.
" @Barrock: No trust me, he helped shut down one of my pc threads before and some of these pc gamers made enemies with me in the past. I have a list of these ppl, it's not what you think. These ppl are antagonistic for a reason. Still look at all you evil ppl, as soon as religion was mentioned, you all lost your mind. Before that, when it wasn't involved, you listened. Talk about being full of shit. "
Read what you wrote again dude. Now go watch a movie about someone is insane. You'll notice a similarity or two. "
you can almost see the shit smeared walls he has barricaded himself inside of
Why can't you accept world leaders are all satanist, just like those illuminati ppl using satanic symbols in music videos? You want some proof that they subscribe to satanism? You want to see some of the patterns? You won't belive it anyways because it's you ppl who are stuck in your atheist belif system. I feel sorry once religion gets involved you ppl think it's nuts. You belive in ufos, 9/11 by arabs, 2012 from movies among many crazy belifs like a bunch of sheeps. Don't you get it, this triangle is a symbol of evil they are trying to get across through music videos. There are a ton of occult symbols too.
I mean honestly that illuminati symbol, what did you think it was? Some triangle? with a normal eye? No, it's the eye of lucifer, the all seeing all knowing eye. It means they are elightened, illuminated with knowledge. On the u.s currency, they also use a symbol of an owl because it can see in the dark. They pride themselves of seeing what you can't see, they are illuminated. Didn't MC hammer use a devil mask in that music video when they throw up that triangle symbol?
This video was awful in numerous ways. 1. The opening video-wtf. Was he imitating Jay-z? I could barely hear anything and was too lazy to rewind and watch again. 2. The music is just awful. He is clearly envious of Jay-z and just wishes to be like him. 3. How old is Hammer? Should he be allowed to box? 4. Writing down one of Jay-z's line with the devil next to him? wtf? He can't create symbolism so he must act it out for us? 5. The mask for the devil? are you serious? 6. The final part right before the baptism, the guy is talking to the guy in the white, however his mouth doesn't move. This is acting of the lowest calibre.
Omgosh this video just hurt me physically. I can't believe I laid eyes upon such a demon.
Why can't you accept world leaders are all satanist, just like those illuminati ppl using satanic symbols in music videos? You want some proof that they subscribe to satanism? You want to see some of the patterns? You won't belive it anyways because it's you ppl who are stuck in your atheist belif system. I feel sorry once religion gets involved you ppl think it's nuts. You belive in ufos, 9/11 by arabs, 2012 from movies among many crazy belifs like a bunch of sheeps. Don't you get it, this triangle is a symbol of evil they are trying to get across through music videos. There are a ton of occult symbols too.
I mean honestly that illuminati symbol, what did you think it was? Some triangle? with a normal eye? No, it's the eye of lucifer, the all seeing all knowing eye. It means they are elightened, illuminated with knowledge. On the u.s currency, they also use a symbol of an owl because it can see in the dark. They pride themselves of seeing what you can't see, they are illuminated. Didn't MC hammer use a devil mask in that music video when they throw up that triangle symbol?
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you really need to be using sheeple instead of sheep.
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