Giant Bomb is under new ownership. Log in now to accept new terms and conditions and transfer your account to the new owner!

MC Hammer Disses Jay-Z and His "Illuminati Connections"

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for jomu
JoMu

125

Forum Posts

11

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 4

#101  Edited By JoMu

So, did the Illuminati turn on DDP? He used to flash that sign all the time but I haven't seen him in like 10 years.
  

Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#102  Edited By HitmanAgent47

Here is a few pictures of madonna, The pyramid and the eye of lucifer. It's all in front of you, I know some of you can now see it, you can't be that blind.
 

madonna
madonna


 



   

Avatar image for godot
Godot

218

Forum Posts

17

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

#103  Edited By Godot

 Welcome to HitmanAgent47's lair.
 Welcome to HitmanAgent47's lair.
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#104  Edited By HitmanAgent47

Oh look, world leaders using the devil horn hand gestures who are part of the illuminati. They are all rock fans? yeah right. Wait a minute, why would these ppl use a satanic symbol? Oh wait hitman has a good point, yet i'll ignore it because I am an atheist, I am smart, I belive in science, I believe in 2012, ufos, everything the government tells me. Seriously watch this video, it's not photoshopped, it's a bunch of satan worshippers. This thread already has 8,000 views in a few hours, who's watching?
 

  
Avatar image for seitanic
seitanic

100

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#105  Edited By seitanic

Hammer needs to put on a bra next time he runs form the devil. 
 

No Caption Provided
Avatar image for bravetoaster
bravetoaster

7756

Forum Posts

250

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#106  Edited By bravetoaster
@seitanic said:
" Hammer needs to put on a bra next time he runs form the devil. 
 

No Caption Provided
"
That's not MC Hammer
Avatar image for deactivated-58c3985c661d1
deactivated-58c3985c661d1

2120

Forum Posts

38018

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 3

What kind of response do you think JayZ will have? Will he laugh him off in an interview? Dedicate 4 bars in a song, or make a brand new song just for him?

Avatar image for barrock
Barrock

4185

Forum Posts

133

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#108  Edited By Barrock

Okay Hitman. Explain this. Jay Z didn't start that hand symbol. In fact, he was involved in a lawsuit over it. Who started doing it? This man: 
 

No Caption Provided

 
Diamond Dallas Page. Wrestler. The hand is supposed to represent his namesake. A diamond. He then hit it over his knee and shouted BANG to represent his finishing move, the Diamond Cutter. 
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#109  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Barrock: I like how the WCW I think used the term NWO, new world order if i'm not mistaken. 
 
Okay here is interesting video showing this triangle symbol all over movies and stuff even before 9/11. I mean they were trying to tell you something, the eye of lucifer and that triangle is there. There is no mistaking it. 
 

Trust me it's worth watching this video, think what you want.

  
here is a screenshot from it.  
 

triangle with an eye
triangle with an eye

there is no way you can spin this
there is no way you can spin this


the video
  
 

  
Avatar image for august
august

4108

Forum Posts

332

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#110  Edited By august

Hmm. I wonder why there are more successful people than me in the world? Oh, I know! Supernatural evil!

Avatar image for barrock
Barrock

4185

Forum Posts

133

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#111  Edited By Barrock

And they had no Satanic connotations. They were like a street gang. Words are words dude.

Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#112  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@august: They sold their soul for fame and fortune, expecially in the entertainment industry like singers. They are given talent and influence that they can't get before. Maybe some of the influence is from some of these satanic symbols ppl are seeing, not sure. I know alot of ppl can't understand this, however it's true. Eminem had a song called my darling if you want to look it up how he sold his soul to the devil and now he is trapped by his fame. Even world leaders worship satan, free masons does too, same with the skull and bones where they conduct satanic rituals. I suppose from a religious perspective, they are all demon possesed. From an atheist perspective, they seem to be into the occult or throwing up satanic hand gestures, illuminati hand gestures and using freemason handshakes.
Avatar image for seitanic
seitanic

100

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#113  Edited By seitanic
@Axxol said:
" @seitanic said:
" Hammer needs to put on a bra next time he runs form the devil. 
 

No Caption Provided
"
That's not MC Hammer "
Then random boobie guy   needs to put on a bra next time he runs form the devil. 
Avatar image for portis
Portis

1295

Forum Posts

7315

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#114  Edited By Portis

Oh my. Well, MC Hammer got his name out there again -- I'm sure that's all he really wanted to come from this.  
 
My kingdom for a animated .gif of his dancing in this video, though. It's hilarious.

Avatar image for barrock
Barrock

4185

Forum Posts

133

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#115  Edited By Barrock

Great Quest Chain in WoW just started up today involving a dark worshiping cult. 

Avatar image for ryax
Ryax

4580

Forum Posts

6

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#116  Edited By Ryax
@HitmanAgent47 said:

" @august: They sold their soul for fame and fortune, expecially in the entertainment industry like singers. They are given talent and influence that they can't get before. Maybe some of the influence is from some of these satanic symbols ppl are seeing, not sure. I know alot of ppl can't understand this, however it's true. Eminem had a song called my darling if you want to look it up how he sold his soul to the devil and now he is trapped by his fame. Even world leaders worship satan, free masons does too, same with the skull and bones where they conduct satanic rituals. I suppose from a religious perspective, they are all demon possesed. From an atheist perspective, they seem to be into the occult or throwing up satanic hand gestures, illuminati hand gestures and using freemason handshakes. "

here is my last post in your stupid screen shot thread 
 
  Post by Ryax (4,733 posts) See mini bio Level 16 / 1589 ACH / 0 P
Online Now

too much division between the pc community. its not good

Posted 3 months, 3 weeks ago  
 
as for this comment here, just because some one is successful doesnt mean they sold their soul to the devil, you are so brainwashed and stupid that you cant see hoe crazy you sound. quit posting. please. you look like an ass and no one likes you. you are full of shit and all of your opinions and views are wrong. go away.     
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#117  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Ryax: You speak to me with more respect you hostile agressive, with insultive terms. You are only protecting your friend we both know who, that closed down my thread. I argued with your friend, a few days ago and you have something against me because you respect him. Your pattern started around the same time. Enough of your bullshit, I am not going to read your thread again and let's just forget about this because it's something I want to forget, now that we dealt with it. If you don't agree with me, then piss off. You sound just like your friend stacking a hundred insults in your post. I will probally just not read your post anymore on the forum and just delete it if I see it in my mail box, just as i'm ignoring your friend's msgs. You both are angry and verbally abusive. 
 
Not everyone sold their soul to the devil, I never said that, however alot of muscians did. One good example was lady gaga, i'm talking about superstar quality, not just some nobodies who are sucessful. Ppl like eminem, lady gaga, beyonce or here demonic alter ego sasha fierce, rihanna, jay Z, kayne west. Don't take my word out of context due to ignorance as expected. Good bye and don't adress me in the future. I won't participate in your hostile behavior. If you don't belive, that's your free will, I am not making anyone belive anything I say, I am not like your friend because I don't mind someone challenging my opinion, however not with insults. I don't care about your limited conclusions due to simply mindedness, go to hell for all I care. 
 
Okay let's talk about the damn triangle with an eye on it again. 
 

 
 
Avatar image for gregariousgreg
GregariousGreg

339

Forum Posts

5

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#118  Edited By GregariousGreg
@HitmanAgent47: The eye of providence is a sign representing three things. It is the eye of horus, it is a sign for buddha, or in the medieval ages it represented the trinity aka god.  
Novus ordo seclorum is not new world order its new order of the ages. Lets thin about what this could mean, well the US was a newly made country. It is supposed to mean the beginning of a new american era. 
annuit coeptis essentially just says god approves.  
 
Also what is your opinion of the backwards cross
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#119  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@FizzleNizzleBear: which god are we talking about? To some of these ppl there are more than one god, there might be two, the creator and satan. The order of the ages, the end of time as said in the bible. Then eye of horus is just a symbol, it's not the individual parts that makes up a car for example, it's the whole car just as a whole symbol. The whole symbol is the illuminati. I mean go to any official illuminati sites, they are using this symbol as an evil sign with a triangle with an eye.
 
There are other things on the dollar bill that really shows how important it is to see, to be illuminated, on the side of the dollar bill there is also an owl. Look up the bohemian society, a devilish ritual world leaders attend around july I think. New order of the ages is just the new world order. Okay let me prove the owl first, as to prove this eye symbol means all seeing, all knowing.  
 

 
 
 
Also this is the star of david, however even if they took symbols from many sources, it's not the individal parts, rather it's the whole symbol. I still think you did a good job of using a counter argument.
 

 
 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove      
There are videos of the ritual, lots of satanic stuff going on there, they worship the all seeing owl too.
   
Here are only a few hidden symbols, including that eye.
 
  

 twin towers, if you fold it into a plane.
 
  

 
Avatar image for seriouslynow
SeriouslyNow

8504

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#120  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@beej said:

" @HitmanAgent47:  So it seems that the biggest thing you're missing here is a coherent proof of why belief in the Illuminati is correct. So you should totally do that instead of providing youtube clips of some pastor telling us what Jay-Z believes. If you would like to sway people to your "truth", and if you want it to be accessible for rational discussion then you have to give us a cogent argument. "

/\ Pythagoras was a devil worshipper. /\
 
                             /\
                           /    \
                         /        \
                       /            \
                     /________\
      
      /\ A Televangelist told me /\
Avatar image for mcsmunions
McSmunions

609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#121  Edited By McSmunions
  what's an official illuminati website?
Avatar image for lordxavierbritish
LordXavierBritish

6651

Forum Posts

4948

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 6

If you play The Gambler in reverse it tells you to devour human fetuses in preparation for the second coming of the dark lord. 
  

Avatar image for gregariousgreg
GregariousGreg

339

Forum Posts

5

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#123  Edited By GregariousGreg
@HitmanAgent47: The eye is associated with the trinity therefore it is showing god( son, father, holy spirit). Thats not the star of david because the dimensions are off. I have no idea how folding a dollar into a plane shows anything, it was just done by a bunch of radical Muslims. 
 
and as asked earlier what is your opinion on the backwards cross. 
Also the only freemason founding father was ben franklin and his idea for the seal was rejected.
Avatar image for vaiz
vaiz

3188

Forum Posts

28

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 4

#124  Edited By vaiz
@HitmanAgent47 said:
Words
 
 
Do you ever, you know, leave your house? Ever? Triangles are everywhere, and it's not because the Illuminati is out to get us all with the great Satan. It's called design. Triangles look good. They're symmetrical without having the static image of a box. The angles give a dynamic look to things. As for devil horns, are you fucking kidding me? I've made that gesture before, and I'm pretty sure I'm not part of any secret society to brainwash the world.
 
You know what, I'm wasting my time, dude. You're either so seriously enveloped in your terrible, fear saturated dream world that you believe this shit, or you're trolling us all. If it's the former, please, for the love of god, seek counseling. You're forming conspiracy theories based on who does and doesn't like you on an internet forum board. If it's the latter, good show.

Avatar image for walreese55
walreese55

582

Forum Posts

76

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 1

#125  Edited By walreese55

So what you're saying is that in AC4, you play as MC Hammer, Ezio's long-lost descendant, on his journey to kill the Bastardo Borgia relative Jay-Z, his crack-selling days in the Bronx really a front for the Templars

Avatar image for deactivated-58c3985c661d1
deactivated-58c3985c661d1

2120

Forum Posts

38018

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 3

@brainboy77 said:
" So what you're saying is that in AC4, you play as MC Hammer, Ezio's long-lost descendant, on his journey to kill the Bastardo Borgia relative Jay-Z, his crack-selling days in the Bronx really a front for the Templars "
Naturally
Avatar image for fourwude
FourWude

2274

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#127  Edited By FourWude
@FizzleNizzleBear said:

" @HitmanAgent47: The eye is associated with the trinity therefore it is showing god( son, father, holy spirit). Thats not the star of david because the dimensions are off. I have no idea how folding a dollar into a plane shows anything, it was just done by a bunch of radical Muslims.  and as asked earlier what is your opinion on the backwards cross. Also the only freemason founding father was ben franklin and his idea for the seal was rejected. "

Again to defend Hitman47, a lot of what you're told to believe about symbols is NOT true.

The Star of David has NOTHING to do with historical Judaism. It is a medieval image, probably pagan in origin as it is effectively a hexagram, which was adopted by certain Jewish communities around that time. It's also why many orthodox sects of Judaism prefer the Menorah as the true symbol of Judaism.

The crescent moon and star has NOTHING to do with Islam. It was brought in by Turks from Central Asia who converted to Islam in the Middle Ages, over 500 years after Islam started. It only grew in prominence when the Turks started to dominate the Middle East and modern day Turkey. It became a national symbol. Its origins like the Star of David are again probably pagan.

Many of Christianity's supposed modern day symbols are again pagan in nature. The obelisk, which can be found in the Vatican and Washington is another symbol which used to represent old sun god worship in ancient times. It was also used to represent Satan in certain cultures. It has nothing to do with Christianity.


As for the 9/11 and radical muslims part. Did you know that 7 of the alleged original 19 suicide hijackers are alive and well and been completely acquitted of any involvement with 9/11. They were victims of identity theft. It's small tidbits of news like that which barely makes the mainstream news media. Now the other 12 guys may very well be guilty, but when you have at least 7 of the original gang shown to not have any involvement at all, maybe it's time to re-investigate what really happened, which is what a LOT of people have always been asking for.

Avatar image for smitty86
smitty86

708

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#128  Edited By smitty86

Link, Zelda, & Ganon = Triforce = 5 triangles = Illuminati founders
 
I now believe

Avatar image for doctorwelch
DoctorWelch

2817

Forum Posts

1310

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 3

#129  Edited By DoctorWelch

Well, I like whenever anyone disses or insults Jay-Z because Jay-Z is the worst fucking rapper in the world. His music is so terrible it makes my ears bleed every time I hear one of his songs. His lyrics seem like they were written by some ignorant little teenager boy, he has the rhythm of the def person, and not to mention his face looks like someone bashed it in with a hammer...probably MC Hammer...BOOOM!!! Wow that was terrible, almost as terrible as something you'd hear in a Jay-Z song.

Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#130  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@FizzleNizzleBear: Look your asking a conspiracy theorist about 9/11? I don't think it was a bunch of arabs if your asking me. As fourwude said, yes I agree with his points, it makes no sense the highjackers are still alive. I think this was planned many years ago and these symbols are telling you about it. You don't understand why they did this, however it goes towards the new world order conspiracy theory. I still have a ton of things to explain if we are going to that direction about the end goals of the NWO. If you watched some of my old videos I posted, it already hints at 9/11 before it happened. The bill is just to show you what will happen. If the illuminati, who's symbols are on the american dollar bill, this was planned. How in the world would they be able to invade muslim lands? You can't just walk to another country without an excuse. I don't have any opinion about the backwards cross because I didn't see that very often. If it's backwards wouldn't it look the same?
 
For others remember the triangle, has to have an eye on the top or in the triangle or that's not the logo. Also here is the video again, they are giving hints of september 11th.  If you wanted to know more, here is the NWO on wiki. The ufo stuff is outdated and incorrrect, my new research suggest that.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)     
  
Avatar image for ssully
SSully

5754

Forum Posts

315

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#131  Edited By SSully

Hitman may i ask how to came to start believing all of this???

Avatar image for scrawnto
Scrawnto

2558

Forum Posts

83

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#132  Edited By Scrawnto
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @dudeglove: the words there means, our enterprise."
Actually, "Coeptis" means "our enterprise" or "our undertakings". Annuit means "He favors". The full first line is thus, "He favors our undertakings." The second line is "A new order of the ages" and was inspired by a poem by Virgil. The year referenced on the pyramid, MDCCLXXVI, is 1776. The undertaking which began a new age was obviously the Declaration of Independence. The founding of a new nation is what is being described, not some weird secret society business. 
 
Making the horns is an old Italian gesture meant to ward off curses or bad luck, like knocking on wood. The metal "devil sign" usage is rather new.
 
And seriously, the dude in  A Scanner Darkly is a conspiracy theorist. That's why he has the shirt. 
 
Finally: OH SHIT A TRIANGLE 
No Caption Provided
Avatar image for the_official_japanese_teabag
the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG

4312

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@smitty86 said:
" Link, Zelda, & Ganon = Triforce = 5 triangles = Illuminati founders  I now believe "
omg same with me...  thanks for sharing the light
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#134  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@SSully: A couple of months ago, I really didn't belive in this. I know my brother told me about it. He's a very cool, friendly guy who's really different than me, he's a contrast. I didn't know anything about conspiracy theories in the past, he suggested I watch a documentary about this stuff on 9/11. The only conspiracy theory i've ever heard was JFK related stuff and maybe 9/11 when a university professor claimed that demolition brought down the twin towers. It didn't really take route until I started researching ufos. I was very interested in the phenomenon because like alot of ppl, I belived in what I can see and hear. My research eventually took me more illuminati related stuff when I researched 9/11, conspiracy theories, ufos which aren't real btw, assassinations, 2012, the end times, conspiracy theories. They all had something in common. It actually seems like they are all not just seperate conspiracy theories, rather they are one conspiracy theory. The thing they have in common is, it seems, from a biblical perspective, they all have something to do with good vs evil. By that I mean the illuminati's facination with the occult and biblical revelations for the end times. There seems to be some kind of battle, like adam and eve, satan who as who from a biblical perspective was kicked on earth. Adam and eve had bodies, satan and his fallen angels, now demons had no bodies. Like in revelations, satan was allowed to live on earth, god can't interfere, he did with jesus I suppose, however god is suppose to be back a second time according to the bible where he throws satan in a lake of sulphur. So from a biblical perspective, the greatest goal satan has achieved was that he didn't exist to alot of ppl, influencing them to hate religion, so if there was a chance such afterlife exist in the bible, everyone will not be saved.  I guess the understanding from the bible, which was related to my past, started to make sense. The bible has been warning me of this kind of evil in the world and I didn't know what it was talking about. Then all the dots connected and I saw the matrix. If you had a religious background, some of this conspiracy theories actually makes sense. If you do not, you have to depend on what you see or hear, like through the media, science, life experience. Also if they control media, like popular music, which is related to what you hear and movies as what you see, maybe the media isn't something that I should fully trust because it can be manipulated. That's the story and relooking into the word illuminati, I found every single conspiracy theory was related to them. I started to learn more about them, I even learned alot about the occult, rituals, free masons, other organisations, like skull and bones, CFR, trilateral commisions, boheimian grove or society, haliburton. There was alot of talk about a new world order, a one world government, a one world currency and a one world religious belif, which is luciferian based.  
 
Look I know not alot of ppl are religious, however remember I was an atheist too for a while or my faith wasn't that strong. If this is all the evil in the world and I can now see it now, then there has to be good somewhere and a god. 
 
@Scrawnto: I Know, I reanswered that question later on and said our undertaking. Then I said a new order of the ages, then I said that means a new world order.
   
Avatar image for seitanic
seitanic

100

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#135  Edited By seitanic


No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

No Caption Provided
HAHAHAHA. Anybody who seriously believes this shit is almost definitely a paranoid schizophrenic.  
 
Which I guess I shouldn't laugh at, 'cause it's kinda sad.
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#136  Edited By HitmanAgent47

About the media, you have to look at movie studios more carefully. Reconise the triangle?  
 
The truth is they own most of the media, they are putting their stamp on things. They therefor own you, you are their property and they don't need money from this because they own everything.

 
   

 
 



 

 
 



 

 
 



 

 
 


 

Avatar image for scrawnto
Scrawnto

2558

Forum Posts

83

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#137  Edited By Scrawnto
@HitmanAgent47: You're ignoring the fact that "New order of the ages" does not mean "New world order". World isn't even in the sentence. It is simply a statement of the fact that the age of the United States of America replaced the age in which England controlled the thirteen colonies. To add words to the sentence is like me adding lines to your avatar. It's nonsense. You can't just change words so that they fit your argument.
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#138  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Scrawnto: in the bible they talk about a new age, the end times. That is their ultimate goal, to bring the last chapter of the bible to life. You are trying to dismiss words to fit your argument. So one word is different and you dismiss it, you don't know their goals. 
 
  
Avatar image for veektarius
veektarius

6420

Forum Posts

45

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 1

#139  Edited By veektarius
@FourWude:   Not to state the obvious, but those truly guilty of the suicide attacks on the WTC are dead - they were in the planes.  Accurately identifying those linked with them through the conspiracy to commit the act is an understandably more difficult pursuit. 
 
Additionally, symbols that originally have nothing to do with a given concept but are later associated with that concept have something to do with the concept, not nothing.  Israel has the Star of David on their flag.   If it wasn't always the star of david, too bad.  The swastika was adapted from a buddhist concept, wasn't it?   Symbols mean what they mean to people in the here and now, not in the past.  Like the islamic suicide artists, those pagans are dead. 
Avatar image for ssully
SSully

5754

Forum Posts

315

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#140  Edited By SSully
@HitmanAgent47:  
 
Well that certainly is an interesting story. I dont believe in it, but i respect your view. I have seen my fair share of conspiracy documentaries, and to me they are just interesting ideas. Some of the 9/11 documentaries i have watched have been really convincing, but i still cant say i agree with them.  
 
As for your talk about evil and the whole power struggle between god and Satan is even more interesting. I was raised a catholic my whole life, I am not a dedicated catholic by any means, but i do have some faith in it. The reason your power struggle stuff is interesting is because i had the exorcist for the Archdiocese of Chicago come and talk to one of my classes. It was nice because he wasnt very forceful, he had a believe me or not approach which is a nice change of pace in the Catholic church. Anyways he talked a lot about the power struggle between God and Satan, which was really creepy because he talked about it like he saw it happen himself. He gave the basic back story like you did, how God threw Satan down to earth and all of that jazz. What he said differentiates a little from you though, he Satan knows that he is fighting a downhill battle, something he cant win, all he does on earth is to basically try and take away many people away from God as possible. That is essentially what evil is, Satans way to stray us from God. 
 
Now i can't say i believe in all of this, it is just a bit much for me. And i definitely  do not believe in this Illuminati business, i just find it all to be interesting.
Avatar image for scrawnto
Scrawnto

2558

Forum Posts

83

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#141  Edited By Scrawnto
@HitmanAgent47: Are you trying to say that every mention of a new age has to be the new age? What word have I dismissed? I covered new. I covered age. Order, or organization, is a reference to the way the age is set up, the new order being the shift to an independent America. There are only three words. I haven't dismissed any of them. None of those words has to apply to the whole world. 
 
I could set up a new order of the ages on my desk by throwing out my computer and setting up a drawing surface with lamps, pencils, pens, and ink. The New Age of Drawing does not even have to extend to the living room. 
Avatar image for hitmanagent47
HitmanAgent47

8553

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#142  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Scrawnto: Well let's say this illuminati and their plans, which is the same logo on the dollar bill has sinister plans at the end times. Oh wait, the end times are actually a few years away. If some kind of martial law happens across the world and america loses all sovereignty. All christians are rounded up and killed, they adopt a new one world currency, one world government. Where you have to have a chip, or triangle tattoo on your hand in order to buy food or anything, then you know that you heard it from me first.  
 
Look 9/11 was to start a war, one of their plans is to backrupt the world. The federal reserve isn't anymore more federal than federal express. Yet they print the money and drive the economy into a recession. The war cost trillions of dollars I think, why spend all this money? It's simple, part of their plan was to devalue the dollar down to nothing. Bush and obama is doing it, that's just phase two, since 9/11 was phase one of this new world order. Like I said you can read about it here and why I believe this sinister organisation or society is trying to bring about a new world order. You are free to not agree and think it means a new age without reading the bible of the end times, or even wiking their plans.  
 
It says so under wiki for end times for the new world order right here. A new age, end times, a new world order. Don't believe it for all I care, however since you can't see the whole picture and only one small piece of a puzzle, don't say my conclusions are inaccurate when yours is totally limiting and dismissive or skeptical.  
  
 

End Time

For over 2,000 years, apocalypticmillenarianChristian eschatologists have feared a globalist conspiracy as the fulfillment of prophecies about the " end time" in the Bible, specifically in the Book of Ezekiel, the Book of Daniel, the Olivet discourse found in the Synoptic Gospels, and the Book of Revelation. They assert that people who have made a deal with the Devil to gain wealth and power have become pawns in a supernatural chess game to deceive humanity into accepting an utopian world government, which rests on the spiritual foundations of a syncretic- messianic world religion, that will later reveal itself to be a dystopian world empire, which imposes the imperial cult of the Unholy TrinitySatan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet. In many contemporary Christian conspiracy theories, the False Prophet will either be the last pope of the Catholic Church (groomed and installed by an Alta Vendita or Jesuit conspiracy) or a guru from theNew Age movement or even the leader of an elite fundamentalist Christian organization like the Fellowship, while the Antichrist will either be the president of the European Union or the secretary-general of the United Nations or even a Colossus-like supercomputer
 
 
Edit: not adressing anyone, however for fizzlenizzlebear, across some of my research into the occult, I found pagan witchcraft. Neo paganism, wicca, witchcraft ect.

Avatar image for seriouslynow
SeriouslyNow

8504

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#143  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@FourWude said:
" @FizzleNizzleBear said:

" @HitmanAgent47: The eye is associated with the trinity therefore it is showing god( son, father, holy spirit). Thats not the star of david because the dimensions are off. I have no idea how folding a dollar into a plane shows anything, it was just done by a bunch of radical Muslims.  and as asked earlier what is your opinion on the backwards cross. Also the only freemason founding father was ben franklin and his idea for the seal was rejected. "

Again to defend Hitman47, a lot of what you're told to believe about symbols is NOT true.

The Star of David has NOTHING to do with historical Judaism. It is a medieval image, probably pagan in origin as it is effectively a hexagram, which was adopted by certain Jewish communities around that time. It's also why many orthodox sects of Judaism prefer the Menorah as the true symbol of Judaism.

The crescent moon and star has NOTHING to do with Islam. It was brought in by Turks from Central Asia who converted to Islam in the Middle Ages, over 500 years after Islam started. It only grew in prominence when the Turks started to dominate the Middle East and modern day Turkey. It became a national symbol. Its origins like the Star of David are again probably pagan.

Many of Christianity's supposed modern day symbols are again pagan in nature. The obelisk, which can be found in the Vatican and Washington is another symbol which used to represent old sun god worship in ancient times. It was also used to represent Satan in certain cultures. It has nothing to do with Christianity.


As for the 9/11 and radical muslims part. Did you know that 7 of the alleged original 19 suicide hijackers are alive and well and been completely acquitted of any involvement with 9/11. They were victims of identity theft. It's small tidbits of news like that which barely makes the mainstream news media. Now the other 12 guys may very well be guilty, but when you have at least 7 of the original gang shown to not have any involvement at all, maybe it's time to re-investigate what really happened, which is what a LOT of people have always been asking for.

"
 
1. Jews were Pagans numbnuts.  You have forgotten the story of Moses coming down from Mt. Sinai.  They were worshiping a Golden Calf before he gave them the (15, oops I dropped a tablet, oh well) 10 Commandments, of which the first and most important is There Shall be No God before Me.
 
2. You're confusing the Moors with the Turks.  The Moors were expanding into Asia (non aggressively, I might add, unlike the scumsucking pirate Spanish), while the Ottoman Empire was happily getting along with the Catholic Spaniards in many cases.  The Crescent Moon became a national symbol of Turkey to spite Greece who they were warring with over religion and land and that happened a lot later.  Its origins may be Pagan but that means little (as I'll explain in a little).
 
3. Pagans are not Satanists, at least not in the Christian sense of the word.  Pagans follow the Greco-Roman god PAN as their god.  Pan is the lord of pleny, of sex, of nature, of natural desires.  The Church (specifically the Anglican Church) appropriated his image as the Devil in The Middle Ages when Richard the Lionheart annexed Christianity and began to use it to rule people through fear (because there were still a great many Pan rituals in regards to farming and especially seasonal change, including the Winter Solstice which is where the images of St Nick and Pine Trees come from which were adopted from Paganism in The Netherlands and parts of the Ukraine later) and later the church followed with adding the power of the Guttenburg press  and the printed word, meaning many more copies of the that version (where Pan's image is demonstrated as Satan) of the Anglican Bible were able to be distributed.
 
The reality is that we were pretty much all pagans at some point in history, or at least practiced many pagan rituals (even without knowing why).  Many symbols, practices and phrases have their roots in pagan symbology.  Just as many words in English have their roots in other ancient languages.  Paganism has its root in the Greco-Roman pantheon of gods.   Christianity appropriated his image for the Devil because he has horns and because his followers were plentiful, but Pan is not the Devil.   Everything is a mish mash of symbols from something older.   It's really fucking stupid to take something out of context and apply a connection or context to it which would've never made sense for the thing in its proper context.
 
Pagans are not bad people.  They just believe something you don't agree with.
 
And no, I'm not a Pagan.  I'm a Jew.
 
and fuck anyone who calls me an Atheist as an insult.
Avatar image for fourwude
FourWude

2274

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#144  Edited By FourWude
@SeriouslyNow said:
 1. Jews  were Pagans numbnuts.  You have forgotten the story of Moses coming down from Mt. Sinai.  They were worshiping a Golden Calf before he gave them the (15, oops I dropped a tablet, oh well) 10 Commandments, of which the first and most important is There Shall be No God before Me.  2. You're confusing the Moors with the Turks.  The Moors were expanding into Asia (non aggressively, I might add, unlike the scumsucking pirate Spanish), while the Ottoman Empire was happily getting along with the Catholic Spaniards in many cases.  The Crescent Moon became a national symbol of Turkey to spite Greece who they were warring with over religion and land and that happened a lot later.  Its origins may be Pagan but that means little (as I'll explain in a little).  3. Pagans are not Satanists, at least not in the Christian sense of the word.  Pagans follow the Greco-Roman god PAN as their god.  Pan is the lord of pleny, of sex, of nature, of natural desires.  The Church (specifically the Anglican Church) appropriated his image as the Devil in The Middle Ages when Richard the Lionheart annexed Christianity and began to use it to rule people through fear (because there were still a great many Pan rituals in regards to farming and especially seasonal change, including the Winter Solstice which is where the images of St Nick and Pine Trees come from which were adopted from Paganism in The Netherlands and parts of the Ukraine later) and later the church followed with adding the power of the Guttenburg press  and the printed word, meaning many more copies of the that version (where Pan's image is demonstrated as Satan) of the Anglican Bible were able to be distributed.  The reality is that we were pretty much all pagans at some point in history, or at least practiced many pagan rituals (even without knowing why).  Many symbols, practices and phrases have their roots in pagan symbology.  Just as many words in English have their roots in other ancient languages.  Paganism has its root in the Greco-Roman pantheon of gods.   Christianity appropriated his image for the Devil because he has horns and because his followers were plentiful, but Pan is not the Devil.   Everything is a mish mash of symbols from something older.   It's really fucking stupid to take something out of context and apply a connection or context to it which would've never made sense for the thing in its proper context.  Pagans are not bad people.  They just believe something you don't agree with.  And no, I'm not a Pagan.  I'm a Jew.  and fuck anyone who calls me an Atheist as an insult. "

By no means was I inferring necessarily that Pagans worshipped the devil or were satanists. Maybe I should have used a better word, such as tribal religions, to designate the idea that many of our modern symbols, some of which are held dear, really do have a place outside of their supposed role in the modern world.

Also I would like to counter a few historical points. 

1. Although many of the people of the Tribes of Israel were caught worshiping the Golden Calf and had rescinded, for a while at least on their religion, on the whole the Tribes of Israel were adherents of Judaism. I suppose if you really do want to make a moot point then before Abraham and even before Moses came with the Commandments and Torah many were of tribal religions. That is mostly true of everywhere, Europe before Christianity, Arabia before Islam etc.

2. The Moors never invaded Asia. They were almost wholly consigned to and dominated North Africa and parts of Southern Mediterranean Europe (Spain, Portugal, southern parts of Italy etc). The crescent moon and star really is a Central Asian tribal symbol, adopted by the Turks who were initially no more than small tribes of Central Asia, before they rose up. The history of the symbol possibly even predates the Turkic tribes.

3. Yes a lot of the modern symbolism of modern Christianity were a reaction to and against the old pagan and tribal cultures which dominated many parts of Europe through the Dark and Middle Ages. In that respect a half man, half goat figure of Satan is a reaction against the old customs and beliefs, since this iconography doesn't exist in the  Bible. 

Avatar image for funexplosions
FunExplosions

5534

Forum Posts

-1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#145  Edited By FunExplosions

Is this conversation actually happening? 
 
 
 
 
 

No Caption Provided

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
...because come on...
 
 
 
 
 
 
No Caption Provided

 
 
 
 
  
 
 

...we all know the illuminati are real. My sister showed me a book about them. She's a real cool guy, though. Kind of a contrast.
Avatar image for beej
beej

1675

Forum Posts

417

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#146  Edited By beej
@SeriouslyNow: Fuck you're right! a^2+b^2=the devil!
Avatar image for seriouslynow
SeriouslyNow

8504

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#147  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@beej said:
" @SeriouslyNow: Fuck you're right! a^2+b^2=the devil! "
ALL HAIL PANTHAGORAS!
Avatar image for depressing_wizard
Depressing_Wizard

190

Forum Posts

3

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

This is the best thread ever.

Avatar image for icemael
Icemael

6901

Forum Posts

40352

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 20

User Lists: 20

#149  Edited By Icemael

GIANTBOMB IS PART OF ILLUMINATI BECAUSE ONCE ON THE BOMBCAST VINNY SAID "CUNT" WHICH IS A SWEAR WORD, AND PEOPLE WHO SWEAR ARE CONTROLLED BY SATAN. AND HAVE YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HOW IF YOU TAKE THE MOUTH OF THE BOMB IN THE GIANTBOMB LOGO, TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN, AND THEN MOVE IT UP A LITTLE SO THE BOMB'S RIGHT PUPIL IS AT THE TOP OF THE UPSIDE DOWN MOUTH, IT LOOKS KIND OF LIKE AN ILLUMINATI PYRAMID? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU STUPID ATHEISTS ARE SO BLIND. DON'T YOU SEE? THE ILLUMINATI-CONTROLLED GOVERNMENTS ARE PLANNING TO BRING ABOUT A NEW WORLD ORDER, AND GIANTBOMB IS JUST ONE OF THEIR MANY PUPPETS TRYING TO INFLUENCE YOU WITH SUBLIMINAL SATANIST MESSAGES!

Avatar image for mylifeforaiur
mylifeforAiur

3594

Forum Posts

46902

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 6

#150  Edited By mylifeforAiur
@HitmanAgent47: While I don't believe in the Illuminati, I will admit that the PC screen shot thread is awesome!