So, did the Illuminati turn on DDP? He used to flash that sign all the time but I haven't seen him in like 10 years.
MC Hammer Disses Jay-Z and His "Illuminati Connections"
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Oh look, world leaders using the devil horn hand gestures who are part of the illuminati. They are all rock fans? yeah right. Wait a minute, why would these ppl use a satanic symbol? Oh wait hitman has a good point, yet i'll ignore it because I am an atheist, I am smart, I belive in science, I believe in 2012, ufos, everything the government tells me. Seriously watch this video, it's not photoshopped, it's a bunch of satan worshippers. This thread already has 8,000 views in a few hours, who's watching?
What kind of response do you think JayZ will have? Will he laugh him off in an interview? Dedicate 4 bars in a song, or make a brand new song just for him?
Okay Hitman. Explain this. Jay Z didn't start that hand symbol. In fact, he was involved in a lawsuit over it. Who started doing it? This man:

Diamond Dallas Page. Wrestler. The hand is supposed to represent his namesake. A diamond. He then hit it over his knee and shouted BANG to represent his finishing move, the Diamond Cutter.
Okay here is interesting video showing this triangle symbol all over movies and stuff even before 9/11. I mean they were trying to tell you something, the eye of lucifer and that triangle is there. There is no mistaking it.
Trust me it's worth watching this video, think what you want.
here is a screenshot from it.


the video
here is my last post in your stupid screen shot thread" @august: They sold their soul for fame and fortune, expecially in the entertainment industry like singers. They are given talent and influence that they can't get before. Maybe some of the influence is from some of these satanic symbols ppl are seeing, not sure. I know alot of ppl can't understand this, however it's true. Eminem had a song called my darling if you want to look it up how he sold his soul to the devil and now he is trapped by his fame. Even world leaders worship satan, free masons does too, same with the skull and bones where they conduct satanic rituals. I suppose from a religious perspective, they are all demon possesed. From an atheist perspective, they seem to be into the occult or throwing up satanic hand gestures, illuminati hand gestures and using freemason handshakes. "
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as for this comment here, just because some one is successful doesnt mean they sold their soul to the devil, you are so brainwashed and stupid that you cant see hoe crazy you sound. quit posting. please. you look like an ass and no one likes you. you are full of shit and all of your opinions and views are wrong. go away.
Not everyone sold their soul to the devil, I never said that, however alot of muscians did. One good example was lady gaga, i'm talking about superstar quality, not just some nobodies who are sucessful. Ppl like eminem, lady gaga, beyonce or here demonic alter ego sasha fierce, rihanna, jay Z, kayne west. Don't take my word out of context due to ignorance as expected. Good bye and don't adress me in the future. I won't participate in your hostile behavior. If you don't belive, that's your free will, I am not making anyone belive anything I say, I am not like your friend because I don't mind someone challenging my opinion, however not with insults. I don't care about your limited conclusions due to simply mindedness, go to hell for all I care.
Okay let's talk about the damn triangle with an eye on it again.

Novus ordo seclorum is not new world order its new order of the ages. Lets thin about what this could mean, well the US was a newly made country. It is supposed to mean the beginning of a new american era.
annuit coeptis essentially just says god approves.
Also what is your opinion of the backwards cross
There are other things on the dollar bill that really shows how important it is to see, to be illuminated, on the side of the dollar bill there is also an owl. Look up the bohemian society, a devilish ritual world leaders attend around july I think. New order of the ages is just the new world order. Okay let me prove the owl first, as to prove this eye symbol means all seeing, all knowing.

Also this is the star of david, however even if they took symbols from many sources, it's not the individal parts, rather it's the whole symbol. I still think you did a good job of using a counter argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
There are videos of the ritual, lots of satanic stuff going on there, they worship the all seeing owl too.
Here are only a few hidden symbols, including that eye.
twin towers, if you fold it into a plane.
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If you play The Gambler in reverse it tells you to devour human fetuses in preparation for the second coming of the dark lord.
and as asked earlier what is your opinion on the backwards cross.
Also the only freemason founding father was ben franklin and his idea for the seal was rejected.
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Do you ever, you know, leave your house? Ever? Triangles are everywhere, and it's not because the Illuminati is out to get us all with the great Satan. It's called design. Triangles look good. They're symmetrical without having the static image of a box. The angles give a dynamic look to things. As for devil horns, are you fucking kidding me? I've made that gesture before, and I'm pretty sure I'm not part of any secret society to brainwash the world.
You know what, I'm wasting my time, dude. You're either so seriously enveloped in your terrible, fear saturated dream world that you believe this shit, or you're trolling us all. If it's the former, please, for the love of god, seek counseling. You're forming conspiracy theories based on who does and doesn't like you on an internet forum board. If it's the latter, good show.
So what you're saying is that in AC4, you play as MC Hammer, Ezio's long-lost descendant, on his journey to kill the Bastardo Borgia relative Jay-Z, his crack-selling days in the Bronx really a front for the Templars
" So what you're saying is that in AC4, you play as MC Hammer, Ezio's long-lost descendant, on his journey to kill the Bastardo Borgia relative Jay-Z, his crack-selling days in the Bronx really a front for the Templars "Naturally
" @HitmanAgent47: The eye is associated with the trinity therefore it is showing god( son, father, holy spirit). Thats not the star of david because the dimensions are off. I have no idea how folding a dollar into a plane shows anything, it was just done by a bunch of radical Muslims. and as asked earlier what is your opinion on the backwards cross. Also the only freemason founding father was ben franklin and his idea for the seal was rejected. "
Again to defend Hitman47, a lot of what you're told to believe about symbols is NOT true.
The Star of David has NOTHING to do with historical Judaism. It is a medieval image, probably pagan in origin as it is effectively a hexagram, which was adopted by certain Jewish communities around that time. It's also why many orthodox sects of Judaism prefer the Menorah as the true symbol of Judaism.
The crescent moon and star has NOTHING to do with Islam. It was brought in by Turks from Central Asia who converted to Islam in the Middle Ages, over 500 years after Islam started. It only grew in prominence when the Turks started to dominate the Middle East and modern day Turkey. It became a national symbol. Its origins like the Star of David are again probably pagan.
Many of Christianity's supposed modern day symbols are again pagan in nature. The obelisk, which can be found in the Vatican and Washington is another symbol which used to represent old sun god worship in ancient times. It was also used to represent Satan in certain cultures. It has nothing to do with Christianity.
As for the 9/11 and radical muslims part. Did you know that 7 of the alleged original 19 suicide hijackers are alive and well and been completely acquitted of any involvement with 9/11. They were victims of identity theft. It's small tidbits of news like that which barely makes the mainstream news media. Now the other 12 guys may very well be guilty, but when you have at least 7 of the original gang shown to not have any involvement at all, maybe it's time to re-investigate what really happened, which is what a LOT of people have always been asking for.
Well, I like whenever anyone disses or insults Jay-Z because Jay-Z is the worst fucking rapper in the world. His music is so terrible it makes my ears bleed every time I hear one of his songs. His lyrics seem like they were written by some ignorant little teenager boy, he has the rhythm of the def person, and not to mention his face looks like someone bashed it in with a hammer...probably MC Hammer...BOOOM!!! Wow that was terrible, almost as terrible as something you'd hear in a Jay-Z song.
For others remember the triangle, has to have an eye on the top or in the triangle or that's not the logo. Also here is the video again, they are giving hints of september 11th. If you wanted to know more, here is the NWO on wiki. The ufo stuff is outdated and incorrrect, my new research suggest that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)
" @dudeglove: the words there means, our enterprise."Actually, "Coeptis" means "our enterprise" or "our undertakings". Annuit means "He favors". The full first line is thus, "He favors our undertakings." The second line is "A new order of the ages" and was inspired by a poem by Virgil. The year referenced on the pyramid, MDCCLXXVI, is 1776. The undertaking which began a new age was obviously the Declaration of Independence. The founding of a new nation is what is being described, not some weird secret society business.
Making the horns is an old Italian gesture meant to ward off curses or bad luck, like knocking on wood. The metal "devil sign" usage is rather new.
And seriously, the dude in A Scanner Darkly is a conspiracy theorist. That's why he has the shirt.
Finally: OH SHIT A TRIANGLE

" Link, Zelda, & Ganon = Triforce = 5 triangles = Illuminati founders I now believe "omg same with me... thanks for sharing the light
Look I know not alot of ppl are religious, however remember I was an atheist too for a while or my faith wasn't that strong. If this is all the evil in the world and I can now see it now, then there has to be good somewhere and a god.
@Scrawnto: I Know, I reanswered that question later on and said our undertaking. Then I said a new order of the ages, then I said that means a new world order.
Additionally, symbols that originally have nothing to do with a given concept but are later associated with that concept have something to do with the concept, not nothing. Israel has the Star of David on their flag. If it wasn't always the star of david, too bad. The swastika was adapted from a buddhist concept, wasn't it? Symbols mean what they mean to people in the here and now, not in the past. Like the islamic suicide artists, those pagans are dead.
Well that certainly is an interesting story. I dont believe in it, but i respect your view. I have seen my fair share of conspiracy documentaries, and to me they are just interesting ideas. Some of the 9/11 documentaries i have watched have been really convincing, but i still cant say i agree with them.
As for your talk about evil and the whole power struggle between god and Satan is even more interesting. I was raised a catholic my whole life, I am not a dedicated catholic by any means, but i do have some faith in it. The reason your power struggle stuff is interesting is because i had the exorcist for the Archdiocese of Chicago come and talk to one of my classes. It was nice because he wasnt very forceful, he had a believe me or not approach which is a nice change of pace in the Catholic church. Anyways he talked a lot about the power struggle between God and Satan, which was really creepy because he talked about it like he saw it happen himself. He gave the basic back story like you did, how God threw Satan down to earth and all of that jazz. What he said differentiates a little from you though, he Satan knows that he is fighting a downhill battle, something he cant win, all he does on earth is to basically try and take away many people away from God as possible. That is essentially what evil is, Satans way to stray us from God.
Now i can't say i believe in all of this, it is just a bit much for me. And i definitely do not believe in this Illuminati business, i just find it all to be interesting.
I could set up a new order of the ages on my desk by throwing out my computer and setting up a drawing surface with lamps, pencils, pens, and ink. The New Age of Drawing does not even have to extend to the living room.
Look 9/11 was to start a war, one of their plans is to backrupt the world. The federal reserve isn't anymore more federal than federal express. Yet they print the money and drive the economy into a recession. The war cost trillions of dollars I think, why spend all this money? It's simple, part of their plan was to devalue the dollar down to nothing. Bush and obama is doing it, that's just phase two, since 9/11 was phase one of this new world order. Like I said you can read about it here and why I believe this sinister organisation or society is trying to bring about a new world order. You are free to not agree and think it means a new age without reading the bible of the end times, or even wiking their plans.
It says so under wiki for end times for the new world order right here. A new age, end times, a new world order. Don't believe it for all I care, however since you can't see the whole picture and only one small piece of a puzzle, don't say my conclusions are inaccurate when yours is totally limiting and dismissive or skeptical.
End Time
For over 2,000 years, apocalypticmillenarianChristian eschatologists have feared a globalist conspiracy as the fulfillment of prophecies about the " end time" in the Bible, specifically in the Book of Ezekiel, the Book of Daniel, the Olivet discourse found in the Synoptic Gospels, and the Book of Revelation. They assert that people who have made a deal with the Devil to gain wealth and power have become pawns in a supernatural chess game to deceive humanity into accepting an utopian world government, which rests on the spiritual foundations of a syncretic- messianic world religion, that will later reveal itself to be a dystopian world empire, which imposes the imperial cult of the Unholy Trinity — Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet. In many contemporary Christian conspiracy theories, the False Prophet will either be the last pope of the Catholic Church (groomed and installed by an Alta Vendita or Jesuit conspiracy) or a guru from theNew Age movement or even the leader of an elite fundamentalist Christian organization like the Fellowship, while the Antichrist will either be the president of the European Union or the secretary-general of the United Nations or even a Colossus-like supercomputer.
Edit: not adressing anyone, however for fizzlenizzlebear, across some of my research into the occult, I found pagan witchcraft. Neo paganism, wicca, witchcraft ect.
" @FizzleNizzleBear said:" @HitmanAgent47: The eye is associated with the trinity therefore it is showing god( son, father, holy spirit). Thats not the star of david because the dimensions are off. I have no idea how folding a dollar into a plane shows anything, it was just done by a bunch of radical Muslims. and as asked earlier what is your opinion on the backwards cross. Also the only freemason founding father was ben franklin and his idea for the seal was rejected. "
Again to defend Hitman47, a lot of what you're told to believe about symbols is NOT true.
The Star of David has NOTHING to do with historical Judaism. It is a medieval image, probably pagan in origin as it is effectively a hexagram, which was adopted by certain Jewish communities around that time. It's also why many orthodox sects of Judaism prefer the Menorah as the true symbol of Judaism.
The crescent moon and star has NOTHING to do with Islam. It was brought in by Turks from Central Asia who converted to Islam in the Middle Ages, over 500 years after Islam started. It only grew in prominence when the Turks started to dominate the Middle East and modern day Turkey. It became a national symbol. Its origins like the Star of David are again probably pagan.
Many of Christianity's supposed modern day symbols are again pagan in nature. The obelisk, which can be found in the Vatican and Washington is another symbol which used to represent old sun god worship in ancient times. It was also used to represent Satan in certain cultures. It has nothing to do with Christianity.
As for the 9/11 and radical muslims part. Did you know that 7 of the alleged original 19 suicide hijackers are alive and well and been completely acquitted of any involvement with 9/11. They were victims of identity theft. It's small tidbits of news like that which barely makes the mainstream news media. Now the other 12 guys may very well be guilty, but when you have at least 7 of the original gang shown to not have any involvement at all, maybe it's time to re-investigate what really happened, which is what a LOT of people have always been asking for.
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1. Jews were Pagans numbnuts. You have forgotten the story of Moses coming down from Mt. Sinai. They were worshiping a Golden Calf before he gave them the (15, oops I dropped a tablet, oh well) 10 Commandments, of which the first and most important is There Shall be No God before Me.
2. You're confusing the Moors with the Turks. The Moors were expanding into Asia (non aggressively, I might add, unlike the scumsucking pirate Spanish), while the Ottoman Empire was happily getting along with the Catholic Spaniards in many cases. The Crescent Moon became a national symbol of Turkey to spite Greece who they were warring with over religion and land and that happened a lot later. Its origins may be Pagan but that means little (as I'll explain in a little).
3. Pagans are not Satanists, at least not in the Christian sense of the word. Pagans follow the Greco-Roman god PAN as their god. Pan is the lord of pleny, of sex, of nature, of natural desires. The Church (specifically the Anglican Church) appropriated his image as the Devil in The Middle Ages when Richard the Lionheart annexed Christianity and began to use it to rule people through fear (because there were still a great many Pan rituals in regards to farming and especially seasonal change, including the Winter Solstice which is where the images of St Nick and Pine Trees come from which were adopted from Paganism in The Netherlands and parts of the Ukraine later) and later the church followed with adding the power of the Guttenburg press and the printed word, meaning many more copies of the that version (where Pan's image is demonstrated as Satan) of the Anglican Bible were able to be distributed.
The reality is that we were pretty much all pagans at some point in history, or at least practiced many pagan rituals (even without knowing why). Many symbols, practices and phrases have their roots in pagan symbology. Just as many words in English have their roots in other ancient languages. Paganism has its root in the Greco-Roman pantheon of gods. Christianity appropriated his image for the Devil because he has horns and because his followers were plentiful, but Pan is not the Devil. Everything is a mish mash of symbols from something older. It's really fucking stupid to take something out of context and apply a connection or context to it which would've never made sense for the thing in its proper context.
Pagans are not bad people. They just believe something you don't agree with.
And no, I'm not a Pagan. I'm a Jew.
and fuck anyone who calls me an Atheist as an insult.
1. Jews were Pagans numbnuts. You have forgotten the story of Moses coming down from Mt. Sinai. They were worshiping a Golden Calf before he gave them the (15, oops I dropped a tablet, oh well) 10 Commandments, of which the first and most important is There Shall be No God before Me. 2. You're confusing the Moors with the Turks. The Moors were expanding into Asia (non aggressively, I might add, unlike the scumsucking pirate Spanish), while the Ottoman Empire was happily getting along with the Catholic Spaniards in many cases. The Crescent Moon became a national symbol of Turkey to spite Greece who they were warring with over religion and land and that happened a lot later. Its origins may be Pagan but that means little (as I'll explain in a little). 3. Pagans are not Satanists, at least not in the Christian sense of the word. Pagans follow the Greco-Roman god PAN as their god. Pan is the lord of pleny, of sex, of nature, of natural desires. The Church (specifically the Anglican Church) appropriated his image as the Devil in The Middle Ages when Richard the Lionheart annexed Christianity and began to use it to rule people through fear (because there were still a great many Pan rituals in regards to farming and especially seasonal change, including the Winter Solstice which is where the images of St Nick and Pine Trees come from which were adopted from Paganism in The Netherlands and parts of the Ukraine later) and later the church followed with adding the power of the Guttenburg press and the printed word, meaning many more copies of the that version (where Pan's image is demonstrated as Satan) of the Anglican Bible were able to be distributed. The reality is that we were pretty much all pagans at some point in history, or at least practiced many pagan rituals (even without knowing why). Many symbols, practices and phrases have their roots in pagan symbology. Just as many words in English have their roots in other ancient languages. Paganism has its root in the Greco-Roman pantheon of gods. Christianity appropriated his image for the Devil because he has horns and because his followers were plentiful, but Pan is not the Devil. Everything is a mish mash of symbols from something older. It's really fucking stupid to take something out of context and apply a connection or context to it which would've never made sense for the thing in its proper context. Pagans are not bad people. They just believe something you don't agree with. And no, I'm not a Pagan. I'm a Jew. and fuck anyone who calls me an Atheist as an insult. "
By no means was I inferring necessarily that Pagans worshipped the devil or were satanists. Maybe I should have used a better word, such as tribal religions, to designate the idea that many of our modern symbols, some of which are held dear, really do have a place outside of their supposed role in the modern world.
Also I would like to counter a few historical points.
1. Although many of the people of the Tribes of Israel were caught worshiping the Golden Calf and had rescinded, for a while at least on their religion, on the whole the Tribes of Israel were adherents of Judaism. I suppose if you really do want to make a moot point then before Abraham and even before Moses came with the Commandments and Torah many were of tribal religions. That is mostly true of everywhere, Europe before Christianity, Arabia before Islam etc.
2. The Moors never invaded Asia. They were almost wholly consigned to and dominated North Africa and parts of Southern Mediterranean Europe (Spain, Portugal, southern parts of Italy etc). The crescent moon and star really is a Central Asian tribal symbol, adopted by the Turks who were initially no more than small tribes of Central Asia, before they rose up. The history of the symbol possibly even predates the Turkic tribes.
3. Yes a lot of the modern symbolism of modern Christianity were a reaction to and against the old pagan and tribal cultures which dominated many parts of Europe through the Dark and Middle Ages. In that respect a half man, half goat figure of Satan is a reaction against the old customs and beliefs, since this iconography doesn't exist in the Bible.
GIANTBOMB IS PART OF ILLUMINATI BECAUSE ONCE ON THE BOMBCAST VINNY SAID "CUNT" WHICH IS A SWEAR WORD, AND PEOPLE WHO SWEAR ARE CONTROLLED BY SATAN. AND HAVE YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HOW IF YOU TAKE THE MOUTH OF THE BOMB IN THE GIANTBOMB LOGO, TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN, AND THEN MOVE IT UP A LITTLE SO THE BOMB'S RIGHT PUPIL IS AT THE TOP OF THE UPSIDE DOWN MOUTH, IT LOOKS KIND OF LIKE AN ILLUMINATI PYRAMID? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU STUPID ATHEISTS ARE SO BLIND. DON'T YOU SEE? THE ILLUMINATI-CONTROLLED GOVERNMENTS ARE PLANNING TO BRING ABOUT A NEW WORLD ORDER, AND GIANTBOMB IS JUST ONE OF THEIR MANY PUPPETS TRYING TO INFLUENCE YOU WITH SUBLIMINAL SATANIST MESSAGES!
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