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MC Hammer Disses Jay-Z and His "Illuminati Connections"

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#251  Edited By Damian
@HitmanAgent47: Look again... It's not just the triangular brick-work at play. There is also the dirt road below it, making a triangle due to the perspective. 
Miyazaki does not willy-nilly throw images and symbols into his films. And this being the last scene, after the girl has been "Illuminated" makes it all the more poignant.
  
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So I ask again: Do you think Miyazaki is a satan worshiper?
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#252  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Damian: I still don't see that symbol on that picture. It's great you drew a bunch of red lines. It's your interpretation, I want to see something alot more clear. The clear pictures are the ones i've posted for the post before this one. The answer to your question is no because it's too abstract. 
 
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#253  Edited By bravetoaster
@dudeglove said:
 And it's not "out of nowhere", she was donating money and all sorts of other refugee-related activities before that. You wouldn't see dickheads like Jay-Z or MC Hammer doing anything like that. "
Lmao, that's because MC Hammer doesn't have money to donate. The bankruptcy monster eated his wallet.
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#254  Edited By Zithe
@HitmanAgent47:  I can't believe I'm posting in this thread again, but I wanted to ask you something. If I made my own secret society and used an eagle inside of a circle for its logo, would you start looking everywhere for eagles and claiming they are references to my organization? Because that's exactly what you did in the post a few up from this one.
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#255  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Zithe: nobody will join your secret society first of all, you have no money, no power no influence and nobody cares abour what you do with your logos is not anyone else's concerns. I can't believe i'm answering questions like these that aren't well thought out.  
 
   
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#256  Edited By damodar

I like how Hitman says anybody with half a brain could see what he sees, because it's clearly what he's running on. 
 
@Zithe:  No, he'd look for circles. Why use an eye in a triangle, when even a vaguely triangle shape is infallible proof. 
 
I think he might actually have a mental illness though; no troll is that devoted.

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#257  Edited By Zithe
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" I can't believe i'm answering questions like these that aren't well thought out. "
It's true that my question did not require a lot of thought to come up with, but that doesn't change the fact that you didn't even answer it. Would you say that eagles were affiliated with my organization or not?
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#259  Edited By damodar

Also, ignore my post. I'm an illuminati spy trying to lead you all astray. 
  
This is the model of guitar I own. 
 

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Note the triangle with the all seeing eye, inlayed in to the body. Clearly the eye of Satan, because why not. Also note the Pyramid shape inlayed in to the neck, either disappearing if you go down the neck, symbolising our growing power requiring us to stay less and less hidden, or you can view up the neck, the pyramid forming, as we rise to power. See the whammy bar pointing down to hell, where Satan resides.
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@HitmanAgent47:  Wow. You do realize that movie is about the Freemasons? You can't use that as part of your crazy conspiracy theory. 
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#261  Edited By damodar
@Manhattan_Project: Yeah, but that's because Disney are part of the Illuminati and made the movie in the first place to advertise their cause. DUR
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#262  Edited By HitmanAgent47

heath ledger. r.i.p, his last movie.
 
   

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#263  Edited By tebbit

Guys I found the Illuminati  
Guys I found the Illuminati  
It was Blastoise all along.
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#264  Edited By Zithe
@HitmanAgent47:  If you have no connections between the uses of the symbol and the organization that uses it, you are wasting your time posting these pictures. The symbol predates the organization. You know that, right?
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#265  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    
 
great lyrics 
 
  
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#266  Edited By sameeeeam
@Tebbit: :O
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@HitmanAgent47: Any more?
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#269  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Manhattan_Project: Well here are a ton of logos if you really want to see more in movies. If you have the time, I bet most of you don't click on these. It's eye opening.  
 
  
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#270  Edited By damodar

So that's basically 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon for loonies?

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#271  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Damodar: enough of your bullshit. The reason why i'm not answering you is because I know your a hostile agressive. I don't reply to new users because I think they are all hostile. I only limit my replies to one reply for you, for new users I only reply like six times at most and stop there usually. Speak to me with more respect, we get your point. Also nice guitar.
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all i know is MC Hammer still has some sick dance moves

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#273  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@Damodar said:
" So that's basically 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon for loonies? "
Yup.
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I love this thread.

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#275  Edited By AhmadMetallic
@HitmanAgent47:  it's a funny coincidence that just now i watched one of the new Dexter episodes and a criminal had a UFO/eye-shaped tattoo on his hand, and when the detectives asked a tattoo expert, she said its either the third invisible eye or (while drawing a triangle) it's the top of the "back of a dollar bill" 
 
You can add Dexter to your list of media that is related to the illuminati. im not saying i believe in the Illuminati, and im not saying that i dont. im just informing you cuz you might be interested
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#276  Edited By Tennmuerti

Considering a triangle is one of the most basic geometric shapes and is probably the most commonly used one by humans in design and architecture.
And vision is the sense that we use for more then 80% of our sensory input.

I would say the Illuminati chose their symbols well. They are only the most common symbols ever.
You would be truly hard pressed to find a more common denominator. If I was orchestrating the greatest conspiracy theory troll attempt ever, these would be exactly the shapes I would choose. It's hard not to find them.

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#277  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    Great lyrics in a jay - z song. 
 
dear god, I wonder if you can save me? 
illuminati wants my mind, soul and body 
dear god, I wonder if you can save me?  
secret society, tryin to keep an eye one me
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#278  Edited By Zimbo
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @HitmanAgent47:  it's a funny coincidence that just now i watched one of the new Dexter episodes and a criminal had a UFO/eye-shaped tattoo on his hand, and when the detectives asked a tattoo expert, she said its either the third invisible eye or (while drawing a triangle) it's the top of the "back of a dollar bill"  You can add Dexter to your list of media that is related to the illuminati. im not saying i believe in the Illuminati, and im not saying that i dont. im just informing you cuz you might be interested "

Illuminati is in Dexter....Dexter looks like Drew....Drew dressed up as Dexter for Halloween....Drew works for Whiskey Media......Giant Bomb is part of Whiskey Media.....Ryan Davis is an editor for Giant Bomb...Ryan Davis played Lucha Libre in a Quick Look.....Lucha Libre has people wearing lucha libre masks.....Luchadeer wears a lucha libre mask....
 Luchadeer is illuminati!
 Luchadeer is illuminati!
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#279  Edited By Synthballs
@HitmanAgent47:   
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@HitmanAgent47: Wait your using that song to back your claims?  
 
Those lyrics you pointed to are part of two other songs and are actually said by Snoop Dogg and Prodigy. As far as the song, its entirely about the the struggle people in the ghetto go through. Sell drugs, steal vs get a legitimate job and work hard. 
 
Try harder.
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#281  Edited By HitmanAgent47

Another jay - Z rap song that disses Jay Z for his illuminati ties. Much better than hammer's song. Everyone should listen to this video, it said exactly what hammer's video said, except he can actually rap well.

 

  

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#282  Edited By shiftymagician

I'm surprised no one asked for a well-documented research paper which is peer-reviewed by several research associations to determine an unbiased conclusion in this entire thread.  I would love to read one which meets these simple conditions.  Then again, for all involved, it would be a bit too much work to bother woudn't it?
 
Oh well, entertaining thread anyway.  Carry on gentlemen.

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#283  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@Synthballs:  He won't understand.
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#284  Edited By Von

Say... that play button on youtube looks like a triangle on its side, and you use your eyes to watch the movies... Dun dun DUUUN! 
 
(and I apologize if you guys sarcasm-meters just broke, like you really needed those anyway.)

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#286  Edited By 27thRed_Martyr
@Axxol:  LOL, Got Damn Rapper's and they stupid disses.
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#287  Edited By beej
@ShiftyMagician:  I would argue that I tried to do just that!
demanding the paper that is, or at least a coherent argument.
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#288  Edited By LiquidPrince
@Romination said:
" Lol, Illuminati. Nothing like conspiracies created by a concept in a series of satire novels. "
I wasn't aware that that was how the illuminati started. Which novels?
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@LiquidPrince: Actually, I was wrong when I said that. It's the Illuminatus! Trilogy, but that was a satire of how stupid the idea was. They'd been rumored before that, but as people are wont to do with satire, they believed it.
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#290  Edited By WMWA

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@HitmanAgent47 said:

@beej: some collegiate fraternities ( Skull and Bones), gentlemen's clubs ( Bohemian Club) and think tanks ( Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission) of the American upper class are front organizations of the Illuminati, which they accuse of plotting to create a New World Order through a one-world government.

Every single one of these things listed under illuminati is important. While the paragraph is short, I mentioned all these groups I underlined earlier and they all have their own page. These groups goes under the name illuminati. So does free masons and everything under the Postulated implementations section. Don't worry most of the time when I read your post, your totally uninformed about these sort of conspiracy topics or anything that's religion related. The thing you missed is the word new world order that I said many times in this thread, that's their ultimate goal and the whole article is their goal, a one world government, one world currency, one world religion. I can't say it any clearer than that. That lines up with what i'm trying to say and those are the major players. So far you haven't countered anything I said by the paragraph I already wrote below that's quoted.

Edit to sound nicer: See this was on the second page, it lines up perfectly with what I said. Of course they didn't put haliburton, they missed that. However I forgot to write bilderburg group, they are all part of the illuminati. Skull and bones, lots of presidents are part of that occultist group that does demonic rituals. You can find leaked videos, they don't really show that much. The bohemian groove or club as I mentioned has worship festivals worshipping an owl, another logo I posted on the dollar bill. The all seeing owl, just like the all seeing eye of that illuminati logo. Council on foreign relations, is more like an international policy behind the scenes organisation. This is the sub group barack obama and hillary clinton are part of. Trilateral commisions which henri kissenger is part of and haliburton are a bunch of rich bankers or lobbist I think. I can't remember, they are more behind the scenes compared to the rest. I guess not all of them openly promotes devil worship, however is interested in a new world order.

Criticisms

TheJohn Birch Societybelieves that the Trilateral Commission is dedicated to the formation of oneworld government. Conservative Democratic congressman from Georgia and second head of the John Birch Society,Larry McDonald, introduced American Legion National Convention Resolution 773 to the House of Representatives calling for a congressional investigation into the Trilateral Commission.

Certain critics, such asAlex Jones, an Americanpaleoconservativeof "The Obama Deception" documentary, claim the "Commission constitutes a conspiracy seeking to gain control of the U.S. Government to create anew world order."

Then you have the free masons, who are the videos of those handshakes and illuminati logos i'm talking about for music videos. These are probally the ppl jay-z is connected to, they are usually the loudest in their occult symbolism. There is a whole section about them. If you can't see the connection, or understand anything i'm saying, then why are you always replying asking me really ignorant questions about this topic? Sure not everyone studies it like I do, however you probally know less than everyone else here combined by all the replies I get from you.

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"If you print money, you want to put your stamp on it. I believe the newer name is called NWO, the new world order. That's the name, but the term illuminati is just an older term. I heard this terms from presidents over and over. There are alot of sub organisations connected to this term. Such as CFR (center of foreign relations), haliburton, tri lateral commisions, free mason, skull and bones, ect. "

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/off-topic/31/mc-hammer-disses-jay-z-and-his-illuminati-connections/463834/?page=2

Damian: I was talking about triangles with an eye, did you even look up the logo? I know you might not have religious belifs or your anti religion, I am not here to change your mind, your mind is already made up. You don't interpret every other logo in the world with your own views, that's not what logos are for, they aren't some sort of abstract art, they have a purpose.


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Also for beej I also posted alot of triangle stuff like this, found on the wiki page. Lots of stuff are related to what i'm saying.


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@HitmanAgent47 said:

I also want to add that page I posted earlier relates to the new world order so the topics might be outlined towards that. There are other pages called list of conspiracy theories that might line up with what i'm saying about the federal reserve which I mentioned was no more federal than the federal express. Let's look up what this page has to say? I did talk about their goals of a one world currency and a one world government, it's elaborated here better. I can't depend on one wiki page to say everything. I hope that clears up some of the misconceptions from ppl who really never heard this before or even know a single bible verse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

I've also talked about how this dollar bill with the illuminati logos on it is shows they knew about 9/11 and it was an inside job. Look if the NWO page couldn't say everything I am trying to say, then this page also speaks about what i'm trying to say about the illuminati, or the new world order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#Other_theories '

Also remember one more thing, illuminati is a term that means these organisations listed in an earlier post. It's sort of like an umbrella name for many organisations. It's not the same as the old barvarian illuminati, however for the sake of mentioning a ton of different group names, or new world order. It's easier and more reconisable to just call them illuminati. Regardless, they all share the same goal, all these sub organisations of a one world governement, one religion (luciferian) and also a one world currency. If they have the same goals, they are just called illuminati, they are here to bring about the end of the world, the end times as you probally never heard from the bible, or a new world order.

New World Order

Main article: New World Order (conspiracy)

This conspiracy theory states that a small group of international elites controls and manipulates governments, industry, and media organizations worldwide. The primary tool they use to dominate nations is the system of central banking. They are said to have funded and in some cases caused most of the major wars of the last 200 years, carry out false flag attacks to manipulate populations into supporting them, and they have a grip on the world economy, deliberately causing inflation and depressions at will. Operatives working for the New World Order are said to be placed in high positions in government and industry. The people behind the New World Order are thought to be international bankers, in particular the owners of the private banks in the Federal Reserve System and other central banks, and members of the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg Group. The New World Order is also said to control supranational and global organizations such as the European Union, United Nations, World Bank, International Monetary Fund and the proposed North American Union. The term gained popularity following its use in the early 1990s, first by President George H. W. Bush when he referred to his "dream of a New World Order" in his speech to the United States Congress on September 11, 1990, and second by David Rockefeller in a statement to the United Nations Business Council in September 1994, sometimes cited as evidence that the New World Order had a motive for carrying out the September 11, 2001 attacks:

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

The concept of this shadow government predates 1990; it is accused of being the same group of people who, among other things, created the Federal Reserve Act (1913), supported the Bolshevik Revolution (1917), and supported the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany, all for their own agenda. The World Bank and national central banks are said to be the tools of the New World Order; war generates massive profits for central banks because government spending (hence borrowing at interest from the central banks) increases dramatically in times of war. Many conspiracy theorists believe that Denver International Airport is the western U.S. headquarters of the New World Order, and a massive underground base and city is believed to exist underneath the airport. Reasons for this include the airport's unusually large size (larger than some major cities), distance from the Denver, Colorado city center, and the set of bizarre murals depicting burning cities, gas-mask wearing soldiers, girls in coffins, Masonic symbols and strange writing. It is believed that secret fleets of black helicopters are ready to take control when the New World Order is set up.

[ edit] Federal Reserve System

The New World Order is said to control the wealth of nations through central banks, via the issuance of currency. The Federal Reserve System is the central bank of the United States, though not a part of the government, created in 1913. There is a theory that the Federal Reserve System is designed to transfer wealth from the poor and middle classes of the United States to the international bankers of the New World Order.

(I also mentioned this in my earlier post, it's more complete of what i've been trying to say, it takes like a few wiki pages to make my point)

World Trade Center collapse

Main article: World Trade Center controlled demolition conspiracy theories

The controlled demolition conspiracy theories claim that the collapse of the North Tower, South Tower and 7 World Trade Center was not caused by the plane crash damage, or by resulting fire damage, but by explosives installed in the buildings in advance. The reasoning behind this explained that if the US Government had planted explosives in the building but made it look like terrorists had done the damage, it would have given them a perfect excuse to go to war in Iraq.

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@dudeglove: That's a really good question. Here are some interesting things I found. I took this screenshot of gta 4 and there is some illuminati logos all over this guy's laptop your suppose to look into for that government agent guy in the game. This was on his desktop in the game. I'm not saying rockstar is in on it. However they made a reference to it. I also noticed a few perks in modern warfare 2 had the same logo, same with the newest civilization game when you take over stuff. I have to find a screenshot. Right now i'm practically typing and sleep walking, so your talking to my subconcious brain. Assassin's creed's logo is the freemason's logo. Well back to sleep, i'm going to hate myself for being so tired tommorrow.


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@Axxol: if your talking to me, I don't care. They insult me, attack religion and attack my opinions when they won't even look up the illuminati logo, they are asking for me to counter their insults. It's not something they will understand, I know you had a background in religion, most of these ppl do not.


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Here is lucas arts, that's clearly an eye, the body makes a pyramid. Now try to say that's making fun of conspiracy theorist. Trust me with beej, he sends me like a dozen post a week and it seems like he never even took a few seconds to google before he counters my religious points. Especially about the occult, he just writes a bunch of words that really doesn't click with me. So if that's a dozen post a week, imagine a month. I get alot of replies that just is uninformed. They judged me unfairly, they will be judged the same.

Matthew 7:1-2
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Matthew 7:6 "Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet." (which means do not throw pearls of wisdom to pigs, or they will ignore it and insult you, or course I mean no disrespect, however I felt I was unfairly judged for those two post, they dismissed everything I said, called me a liar saying I never said that when I did and I get a dozen replies a month that really says nothing. How do I reply to that?

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@Axxol: fair enough, I hope you know, I just don't like being unfairly judged by ppl who are anti religious. I'm just saying religion does play a part in this whole end times, NWO illuminati thing in the bible. The last chapter is practically their ultimate goal, so it should at least be mentioned and not attacked. I already explained the whole backstabber thing, for an event a few months ago with other pc gamers. That's just unfairly blaming me when the other guy's language was insultive first with two post full of insults from hostile agressive behavior. You shouldn't judge unless you knew what went down at the time in the past. Religion is such a topic ppl are too emotional about, with hatred and distain. Which is unfortunate because you talk about jay Z being an evil illuminati, it should be part of the topic. I ask others to not attack any spirtual stuff in this thread, I say it's totally part of the conspiracy. Unless we can ignore that and stay on details, I don't do this to suit you belif system. They shouldn't limit mine either. I am not here to change anyone's mind, however it's great ppl gets a better idea of this symbol and now they can see it at many different media places. Hopefully there will be less insults from now on, if they insult religion again, maybe i'll try to ignore it.


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@HitmanAgent47 said:

@Axxol: Well i'll try to be respectful from now on and if they bring up something that's a misconception. I'll just try to correct them from what I understand. Well it's not a topic everyone really knows unless i'm mentioning it. I mean even months ago I didn't really belive into this stuff until I start connecting the dots. Here is another video I found with the triangle reference from some satanist cult in max payne. Also here is one for modern warfare 2, it's unmistakable.

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#292  Edited By trace

There was no need for this topic to be bumped.