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#1  Edited By hero_swe

To keep this from being youtube spam. I'm gonna copy paste a small explanation that was posted in the comments, but I suggest you watch the video first 
 
  
  
 
" People don't understand what's going on. Peter Molyneux happened to be snooping around one of his new hired people, Graham Young as an excuse of "odd" behavior. He snooped enough to find this video, in which Graham Young created. Also finding Drawings that mention nintendo died in 2006 with a picture of a sad mario and evil reggie (posted on molyneux tweet pics)

As a result of this video, Molyneux fired graham; the maker of this video.

For shame on you Molyneux. Afraid of free speech? Truth? "  

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#2  Edited By guiseppe

The title of the topic is apt as all hell.

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#3  Edited By Llama

WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH

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#4  Edited By turboman  Staff

This is.... 
 
.... 
 
well....... 
 
I think we all know why Fable 3 turned out the way it did now...

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#5  Edited By Make_Me_Mad

To be fair, I might fire that guy too.  Or at least have him followed by an armed guard or two in the office.

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#6  Edited By Delicious_Brains

What have my eyes seen

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#7  Edited By Raven10

!?!?!?! Mind blown. And as far as I can tell, this whole thing with Lionhead is fake. The Twitter account this is linked to is fake. This is just a really, really good animator's rendition of Mario meets Silent Hill.

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#8  Edited By Johnny5

Are you seriously going to bag on Molyneux for firing the guy? A company has a specific market/image/goal ,and they always try to hire people who are of a similar mindset. Nothing to do with free speech >_>

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@Llama said:
" WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH "
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#10  Edited By Bandit_Fox

Wow... messed up. 
 
I can understand why   Molyneux fired the guy though. Regardless of the messed up imagery of the video. You can't have your subordinates openly mocking the heads of direct competition. Freedom of speech isn't the issue here - you are become a representative of a company when you are employed are always acting on their behalf. Public forms of slander/libel of another company not only open a company up for potential litigation, but can look really bad in the public eye.

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#11  Edited By FancySoapsMan

I looked up Graham Young on wikipedia and got this.
 
Obviously not the same guy, but still funny.

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#12  Edited By Gizmo

This is what would happen if David Lynch made a Mario movie. 
 
In the Mushroom Kingdom, everything is fine...

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#13  Edited By RobotHamster

Wow.....

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#14  Edited By hero_swe
@Johnny5 said:

"Are you seriously going to bag on Molyneux for firing the guy? A company has a specific market/image/goal ,and they always try to hire people who are of a similar mindset. Nothing to do with free speech >_> "


"copy paste a small explanation that was posted in the comments"     
 
So yeah, my opinion on this is simply a short and sweet double-u-tee-eff on it all. Don't think I'd fire the guy though, maybe just ask him about it :P
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#15  Edited By spankingaddict

Wow.... seems some people take the wii and the mario franchise too seriously.
 
Nintendo isn't nearly dead yet, IMO...

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#16  Edited By Vonocourt

Thought it was interesting and kind of creepy until Reggie showed up, then it just became another butthurt nerd going "Nintendo doesn't cater to me anymore, waaaaaahhhhhhhhh!" And that montage of E3 footage and commercials went on for way to long.

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#17  Edited By TheGodPoet
@MasterOfPenguins_Zell said:
" @Llama said:
" WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH "
"
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#18  Edited By zeforgotten

Around here words could easily describe what I just watched, again. 

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#19  Edited By Johnny5
@Hero_Swe said:
" @Johnny5 said:

"Are you seriously going to bag on Molyneux for firing the guy? A company has a specific market/image/goal ,and they always try to hire people who are of a similar mindset. Nothing to do with free speech >_> "

"copy paste a small explanation that was posted in the comments"      So yeah, my opinion on this is simply a short and sweet double-u-tee-eff on it all. Don't think I'd fire the guy though, maybe just ask him about it :P "
Wasn't meaning it directly to you. Meant it in general. Sorry about that. 
 
Although bringing free speech into it is crazy business lol. Do you know if its legit?>
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#20  Edited By BrittonPeele

I like the Silent Hill meets Mario vibe of the video. I don't buy the firing story from the comments, though.

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Its bloody true tho, Nintendo ain't what it used to be, and it hurts.
 
Guy might be crazy, but he's totally spot in my opinion.
Also, who cares about Molyneux >.>
Ignore him and Fable ain't half bad.

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#22  Edited By nohthink

lol pretty disturbing. Although, I have to say, I do agree on some extent what the video is trying to say(of course, I imagined something less disturbing and involves less drugs)

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#23  Edited By EpicSteve

Well, I wont be forgetting that for awhile.

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#24  Edited By supermonkey122

Wow that was really disturbing since I loved Mario (like many people) since I was a child and to see him like this...wow

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#25  Edited By Slaker117

Well that was stupid.
 
Nintendo is a corporation. People need to get over that. Just because you enjoyed there games when you were young does not mean they were caring then. They made a product and you bought it. They don't owe you anything now, and if they are not producing something you want to buy, don't buy it. Plenty of others will though. That's why they do it; Simple economics. Mario has always been a  commercial product and corporate tool, even if you were too innocent to understand. Your childhood isn't being raped now, it was sold to you then.
 
Besides, the Galaxy games have been great.

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#26  Edited By NathHaw

Kinda weird, but I liked it.

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#27  Edited By 02sfraser
@Johnny5 said:
" Are you seriously going to bag on Molyneux for firing the guy? A company has a specific market/image/goal ,and they always try to hire people who are of a similar mindset. Nothing to do with free speech >_> "
This. Also the video was creepy as hell!
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#28  Edited By KillyDarko

I knew I'd heard some Silent Hill music in there... :)
And this was actually great, in a Mario meets Silent Hill sort of way ^^

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#29  Edited By luce

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Nintendo should make a dark Mario game 
 
Epic Mario

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#30  Edited By GunnBjorn

This is why I love the SH series so much. That creepy, unsettling atmosphere is almost palpable.
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#31  Edited By Berserk007

Man if they actually made a game anything like this video for WII I might actually be motivated to buy one.

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#32  Edited By rjayb89

Reggie's body was not up to the task.

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@Bandit_Fox said:
" Wow... messed up.  I can understand why   Molyneux fired the guy though. Regardless of the messed up imagery of the video. You can't have your subordinates openly mocking the heads of direct competition. Freedom of speech isn't the issue here - you are become a representative of a company when you are employed are always acting on their behalf. Public forms of slander/libel of another company not only open a company up for potential litigation, but can look really bad in the public eye. "
What? This has absolutely nothing to do with Lionhead. It's a depiction of someone's personal opinion. Unless he was actively working on this while on the job, him being fired for it (assuming that part of the story is even true) is ridiculous, and I can't believe anyone would defend it. Your statement about always representing your company has terrifying implications if exposed to even the slightest of slippery slopes.
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#34  Edited By RVonE

While kinda creepy and arty as fuck, I think the video was well produced.
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#35  Edited By time allen

Name Peter Molyneux 2
appears to be a lie but w.e the video itself is great.
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#36  Edited By CaptainCody

Oh god, burn the witch.
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#37  Edited By sammo21
@Hero_Swe: I have some mere words for this:  "Fucking stupid".
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#38  Edited By Foil1212
@Sincillian said:
" @MasterOfPenguins_Zell said:
" @Llama said:
" WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH "
"
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#40  Edited By Video_Tycoon

Holy, that was awesome. XD  Although personally I doubt whoever made it ever worked at Nintendo (because really, what company would release that?), but the imagery and meaning behind it was great.  Nintendo HAS been pushing themselves more towards the 'casual gamers' solely for money, leaving more traditional gamers in the dust with few games.

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#41  Edited By weegieanawrench

Well that was depressing. No chance of forgetting that anytime soon.

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#42  Edited By Jack268
@Make_Me_Mad said:
" To be fair, I might fire that guy too.  Or at least have him followed by an armed guard or two in the office. "
this 
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#43  Edited By Kyreo

How very poetic.  

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#44  Edited By ___pocalypse

I'm guessing if the firing and stuff is true, it was for more than just this video. The quote states that Molyneaux was looking into this guy because of odd behavior, so they may have been looking into firing him before seeing the video. It's possible the video and other mildly threatening/deprecating statements about Nintendo were enough to motivate them to actually fire him.  Obviously we have no way of knowing for sure, but I'm guessing his "odd behavior" was pretty worrisome; i.e. disturbing to other employees or affecting his job performance.
 
IMO, this kind of thing isn't what you want your employer to find regardless of freedom of speech. Companies have specific images to maintain, as well as business relationships, and having an employee who blatantly twists a rival company's lead character into what we saw in the video really isn't going to be beneficial to anyone. Its well within a company's right to fire a person if their actions could be seen as detrimental or threatening to other employees or business relations.

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#45  Edited By craigbo180

Well I liked it, you're hired kid!

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#46  Edited By EuanDewar

Shit! Christ what the- Fucking hell what was that! Cmon man! 
 
I don't blame the man for firing him. I mean, fuck dude...Jesus christ.

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#47  Edited By GunslingerPanda

Well that was disturbing as hell, and equally brilliant. There's no chance the story attached to it is true though. 
 
I miss Nintendo, too.

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#48  Edited By Bandit_Fox
@SuperfluousMoniker said:

" @Bandit_Fox said:

" Wow... messed up.  I can understand why   Molyneux fired the guy though. Regardless of the messed up imagery of the video. You can't have your subordinates openly mocking the heads of direct competition. Freedom of speech isn't the issue here - you are become a representative of a company when you are employed are always acting on their behalf. Public forms of slander/libel of another company not only open a company up for potential litigation, but can look really bad in the public eye. "
What? This has absolutely nothing to do with Lionhead. It's a depiction of someone's personal opinion. Unless he was actively working on this while on the job, him being fired for it (assuming that part of the story is even true) is ridiculous, and I can't believe anyone would defend it. Your statement about always representing your company has terrifying implications if exposed to even the slightest of slippery slopes. "
It does have terrifying implications. But that is how the game is played today.

I never said that I agree with their position, but that I do understand it. This video is offensive (while being kind of creepy and sort of funny) to Nintendo. Microsoft, as any corporation, doesn't care about the individual - they only care that the individual is affiliated with Microsoft. Thus, the actions of an individual that come to the attention of the corporation as it relates to the industry that they are a part of will only be viewed from the perspective of the corporation and how it may impact the health of the organization. Molyneux could have ignored it, laughed it off and kept going on with his day when he saw it. But what if a few months after that, Reggie called Molyneux, was offended and knew that this guy was someone he hired/retained having this knowledge? Large news outlets have generated political scandals over less (see the Palin/Gibbons/Target map argument that is happening right now).

It sucks but it is a reality of corporate culture. With people living their lives on the internet and the line between public and private life blending, corporations are seizing the opportunity to inspect the individuals that make their corporation. They then use that data to make assessments about an individuals place in their corporation. For example, it's become common practice for HR representatives to search the Facebook profiles of applicants off the record and make judgments about if they should hire the individual, regardless of their resume and qualifications. From the perspective of the corporation, if two applicants are equal but one has pictures of them partying hard on their profile while the other has only simple face pictures available, it's a no brainer for the corporation to judge that the latter is less of a risk to the company.  
 
I think it sucks that the guy was fired and if I had been in Molyneux's position, I wouldn't have done it. Then again, I'm not in his position and don't have his mind set about maintaining a public image and dealing with my competition, so such speculation is futile.
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#49  Edited By Subjugation

I still don't know what to say about that video and I've been sitting here for 10 minutes.

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#50  Edited By crusader8463

No full screen button makes me mad.