Should All Drugs be Legalized?
ALL drugs?
No. Pot might not be that bad for you, but there's some stuff out there that is really bad for you. For instance, there's a drug in Russia known as Krokodil that can cause severe damage to your skin. According to the Wiki article, the life expectancy of an addict is only two to three years.
So, not all drugs are going to kill you. But are some drugs bad? You bet your bottom fucking dollar they are.
An individual should not be restrained from doing anything they want to do, as long as it is not harming another person.
Yes. Government has no place telling anyone what to do with their bodies. Information is cheap, and if someone fucks themselves up then, at this point, its their own fault.
Restrict the bad stuff though, so that kids who get into their parents wallets don't kill themselves, though I'd wish we could trust retailers to use better judgement in those cases.
Yes. Legalize it, regulate it and control it. Accessibility to drugs is a minor reason for why more people aren't on some form of dope. Mind you, I don't want to see Budweiser Meth Lite commercials on during the super bowl. I said legalize it, not encourage it. Give people access to clean, cheap and safe ways to get high and you'll have less people living off the government dime because they smoked tainted rock and ended up with brain damage. Not to mention all the money being wasted on trying to stop drugs from getting into this country illegally could instead be spent on making sure people aren't shooting up bleach and snorting baby powder.
Bottom line - people want to get high and no amount of law enforcement is ever going to change that. Instead of fighting the inevitable, it would be smarter to deal with reality. Legalizing drugs would all but end street corner thugs dealing death by the ounce. Why go buy garbage when you can go to a licensed dope merchant that sells clean, poison free merchandise?
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
@jking47 said:
Sure, let the stoners have what they want and let the meth addicts kill themselves, sounds fine to me. You should be able to make the right decisions about what you put in your own body.
RAW MILK!!!! RAW MILK!!!! that's all I hear when I read this.
@AnxiousTube said:
An individual should not be restrained from doing anything they want to do, as long as it is not harming another person.
The problem is that people that use drugs like Meth and Heroine will steal to keep doing the drugs.
ye@jking47 said:
Sure, let the stoners have what they want and let the meth addicts kill themselves, sounds fine to me. You should be able to make the right decisions about what you put in your own body.
yeah and then will have to foot the medical bills in taxes when they go to the hospital for over dosing
The trouble is people mistaking "people should do drugs" with "drugs should be legal." They are not the same thing.
@sopranosfan said:
@AnxiousTube said:
An individual should not be restrained from doing anything they want to do, as long as it is not harming another person.
The problem is that people that use drugs like Meth and Heroine will steal to keep doing the drugs.
they do that now. people steal for all kinds of reasons besides buying illicit drugs. hell, people steal so they can have beer money.
@fox01313 said:
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
There are plenty of places where pot is legal. Not surprisingly, not everyone in those places is a pot head.
Not everyone there is a pothead, your right, but those places smell horrible.@sopranosfan said:
@AnxiousTube said:
An individual should not be restrained from doing anything they want to do, as long as it is not harming another person.
The problem is that people that use drugs like Meth and Heroine will steal to keep doing the drugs.
they do that now. people steal for all kinds of reasons besides buying illicit drugs. hell, people steal so they can have beer money.
@fox01313 said:
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
There are plenty of places where pot is legal. Not surprisingly, not everyone in those places is a pot head.
I'm going to say that not all of them should be legalized before somebody snitches to the mods.
They should be decriminalized. Incarcerating addicts does them no good and just gives the connections that they might otherwise not have. Addicts should be treated not punished.
Portugal has decriminalized drugs and it has only done the country good.
Some should be legalized. Marijuana for example.
Also, whoever is saying that just because they're "bad for you" is incredibly naive.
People deserve some degree of protection from themselves, especially when it comes to substances that are specifically designed to override our reasoning skills.
Like everyone else I'm OK with pot being legal. I have no interest in doing it, so I feel like that gives my opinion some form of weight.
I'm not too knowledgeable about the finer details, but when Portugal was faced with an addiction epidemic they conducted a little experiment in which they made all illicit substances legal. And, it worked. They had a complete societal turnaround, and it goes to show that America's take on the situation (essentially the polar opposite of Portugal) is just not be the way to go.
America's system is based around criminalizing sick people, and sending them to jail only propagates an endless and expensive cycle that could better be dealt with by giving these people the tools they need to battle the demon that is addiction. When it comes to dealing with addiction the people that run this continent are clueless, idiotic, and spineless, and have changed virtually nothing about policies that were created over 50 years ago even in the face of the myriad research that has been done on the the subject since.
@fox01313 said:
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
@spartanlolz92 said:
ye@jking47 said:
Sure, let the stoners have what they want and let the meth addicts kill themselves, sounds fine to me. You should be able to make the right decisions about what you put in your own body.
yeah and then will have to foot the medical bills in taxes when they go to the hospital for over dosing
@Subjugation said:
No. People have proven time and again that they just don't have the capacity to act responsibly.
@SuperSambo said:
Weed? Yes
Other drugs? Hmm... Legalising it and making it prescription only, slowly weening you off seems like something that should at least be tested.
SuperSambo, it has, in fact, been tested:
The people that want to do drugs are already doing drugs. Drug laws stop almost no one, and just put people in jail that shouldn't be in jail. Assuming drug use will go up is a rather foolish assumption. Portugal legalized drugs ten years ago, and today drug use has gotten radically out of... stability? Yep; drug use has gone down.
Then, when you consider the slaughtering that's going on in Mexico, right in the middle of tourist spots, all because of drugs; when you consider all the otherwise-innocent people in prison amongst rapers and murderers; you start to wonder if your negative stance on the legalization of drugs is actually the rational one.
Edit: That "the slaughtering" link is highly NSFW/NSFL
@benspyda said:
No I don't think that'll help. Drug addiction affects more than just the person who is addicted to it.
That has no bearing on the discussion. The question isnt "should people do drugs?" most people who don't do drugs or know someone suffering from addiction would agree that drugs are bad and no one should do them. However, people should not be going to prison for wanting to get high.
Hes giving the reasion he is saying no, I dont see how it has "no bearing"@benspyda said:
No I don't think that'll help. Drug addiction affects more than just the person who is addicted to it.
That has no bearing on the discussion. The question isnt "should people do drugs?" most people who don't do drugs or know someone suffering from addiction would agree that drugs are bad and no one should do them. However, people should not be going to prison for wanting to get high.
@fox01313 said:
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
That argument is completely invalid. Just because it would be legal to do them doesn't mean more people would. Alcohol and tobacco are legal, does everyone drink and smoke? Of course not. Honestly, how many people are out there saying "boy, I sure wish I could do some heroine, but too bad its illegal"? People who want to do drugs are going to do them regardless. Decriminalizing them and regulating them will only help improve society.
Causation dose not equal Correlation@fox01313 said:
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
@spartanlolz92 said:
ye@jking47 said:
Sure, let the stoners have what they want and let the meth addicts kill themselves, sounds fine to me. You should be able to make the right decisions about what you put in your own body.
yeah and then will have to foot the medical bills in taxes when they go to the hospital for over dosing
@Subjugation said:
No. People have proven time and again that they just don't have the capacity to act responsibly.
@SuperSambo said:
Weed? Yes
Other drugs? Hmm... Legalising it and making it prescription only, slowly weening you off seems like something that should at least be tested.
SuperSambo, it has, in fact, been tested:
The people that want to do drugs are already doing drugs. Drug laws stop almost no one, and just put people in jail that shouldn't be in jail. Assuming drug use will go up is a rather foolish assumption. Portugal legalized drugs ten years ago, and today drug use has gotten radically out of... stability? Yep; drug use has gone down.
Then, when you consider the slaughtering that's going on in Mexico, right in the middle of tourist spots, all because of drugs; when you consider all the otherwise-innocent people in prison amongst rapers and murderers; you start to wonder if your negative stance on the legalization of drugs is actually the rational one.
That's a tough decision. I lean towards a restrictive yes. Do what you want, but your reproductive rights may be revoked while you're a user. Maybe businesses can legally deny entrance or service.
Do what you want to your own body and mind, but you won't get the opportunity to ruin any offspring or cause other people to have to deal with you.
@FunExplosionsSorry I got that backwords Correlation dose not equal CausationCausation dose not equal Correlation@fox01313 said:
Go watch a few certain episodes of Star Trek Next Generation & Sliders where they kind of address this with the whole planet being addicted to drugs, there's just too many dangerous drugs out there that would mess up society more if they were legal to take (as more people would be taking them).
@spartanlolz92 said:
ye@jking47 said:
Sure, let the stoners have what they want and let the meth addicts kill themselves, sounds fine to me. You should be able to make the right decisions about what you put in your own body.
yeah and then will have to foot the medical bills in taxes when they go to the hospital for over dosing
@Subjugation said:
No. People have proven time and again that they just don't have the capacity to act responsibly.
@SuperSambo said:
Weed? Yes
Other drugs? Hmm... Legalising it and making it prescription only, slowly weening you off seems like something that should at least be tested.
SuperSambo, it has, in fact, been tested:
The people that want to do drugs are already doing drugs. Drug laws stop almost no one, and just put people in jail that shouldn't be in jail. Assuming drug use will go up is a rather foolish assumption. Portugal legalized drugs ten years ago, and today drug use has gotten radically out of... stability? Yep; drug use has gone down.
Then, when you consider the slaughtering that's going on in Mexico, right in the middle of tourist spots, all because of drugs; when you consider all the otherwise-innocent people in prison amongst rapers and murderers; you start to wonder if your negative stance on the legalization of drugs is actually the rational one.
I dont see the difference from having a beer and having a joint. Yes Marijuana should be legalized so people can indulge without being classified a criminal.
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