Something really weird is going on in the world

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I don't know if you guys have heard of the Mandela Effect I'll just show you this video and tell me what you think is it all BS? or how can they fake this seriously crazy or maybe I'm losing it the movie parts are the most crazy to me I swear the lines where different. BTW I didn't make this video.

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Moving to Off Topic, General is for games and the site. Off Topic is where threads about the Berenstein Bears, Flat Earth, and politics go.

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This might be dumber than chemtrails. That is pretty impressive!

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The short answer is that human memory sucks, people don't pay close attention, and false information makes its way into the culture through people sharing false "facts" with each other.

What seems more likely? Some kind of weird time stream rewriting of history that only affects trivial things, or that some subset of people who read the Berenstain Bears books when they were kids remember the name as Berenstein (likely because "Stein" is more common as the end of a name than "Stain" and because they were kids when they read the books) or that nothing that we know about time is true?

The internet allows people who misremember things in the same ways to find eachother, and so if out of tens of millions of people who know something some percentage misremember it, it seems like there's something big going on, when it's just the fallibility of human memory and the result of the huge size of Internet communities.

Why does the the human mind ignore the second "the"?

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People remember Berenstain as Berenstein because "-stain" is a far more unusual suffix for a surname than "-stein", yet sounds very similar.

Nelson Mandela was in prison, and thus not much in the public eye, for almost 30 years. Not surprising that people would have assumed that he had died.

Misquotes have been known to spread better than actual quotes, through the "game of telephone" effect.

In short, human memory is wildly unreliable, and we're all more susceptible to groupthink than we realize.

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Everyone knows that memes dictate reality, especially this year. Where have you been?

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Psst, just play along with our "scientific" explanations, or "they" will get you!

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#8  Edited By monetarydread

Wow... what a moron. It's obvious this dude has smoked his memory away in between study sessions on flat earth theory, and Bilderberg 101.

I just wish I could go back in time and tell myself to not watch this video so it wasn't counted as a view on Youtube.

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This is the darkest time line.

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Yeah, really weird how tons of people are falling for conspiracy nonsense videos that have plagued Youtube in the last couple of years.

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I imagine this is what Jeff feels like with vaping..."can't look away from the train wreck" sort of thing.

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Papa Bear can't melt steel beams.

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Can we go back to the reality where I didn't just waste 7 minutes watching that video...

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Man this guy's memory is FOR SHIT. Like, we all have really bad memories, but this level, it is next. Getting to the end where he's like, "this isn't a conspiracy theory, I'm just saying that people are conspiring to change shit" is just [chef's kiss].

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Man this guy's memory is FOR SHIT. Like, we all have really bad memories, but this level, it is next. Getting to the end where he's like, "this isn't a conspiracy theory, I'm just saying that people are conspiring to change shit" is just [chef's kiss].

*[Bakalar's kiss on the cheek]

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So whenever I misremember anything it's not my fault it's just an anomaly in the space time continuum?

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Human memory is really terrible. When you remember something you are not remembering your original memory. You are actually remembering the last time you remembered that memory.

It also really really easy to add a new memory into someone’s head. The Mandela effect is a perfect example of that.

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Now I'm reading some flat earth stuff, please send help.

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When I was a 13-year-old kid, I don't think I ever trolled my dad as hard as that guy's son did.

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@peezmachine: I was looking at flat earth memes recently, and I got spooked because one of them was a legitimately good question I didn't know the answer to. It was something like, why do falling stars always fall downwards. That's when I knew I had to pull myself outta there...

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It was always called Looney TUNES because it was riffing on Disney's Silly Symphonies. You just think TOONS because of the word cartoons.

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Just wait until this guy finds out its Reese's not Reeser's peanut butter cups.

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Every time you recall a memory you are rewriting it. That's why people's memories of events differ more and more as time goes on. There is loss every time it's rewritten. Neuroplasticity and all that.

As has been said earlier, enough people misremembering something makes for a compelling narrative that can easily be passed on to others who might look at the number of people believing in this and go "that's a lot of people.. They can't all be wrong, surely? That is too much of a coincidence.." And it is, in a world where people had perfect memory. But we don't, and people have their memories influenced by others. If someone says to me that the Norwegian king died on a wednesday but I remembered it as tuesday, then I check it and turns out I was wrong, I am now rewriting this memory maybe without storing the fact that I was wrong. Now, if the person(s) correcting my memory are delusional, we're suddenly close to explaining a LOT of crazy shit. How conservatives can be SO OFF but still manage to make some sense of the world is a perfect example.
Competing narratives are biased, and conservatives have puzzled together a kind of world philosophy that disregards most of science and leans heavily on anti intellectualism. The lies within bubbles become true if the bubble is sealed tightly enough so as to not allow critical voices to gain any kind of traction. The bubble is now free to alter all memories of the bubble-dwellers. When they say things that are objectively and demonstrably untrue (and they do a lot) they actually very much believe what they say. Not because they are morons, but because our brains are imperfect and are extremely prone to believing what makes you feel good. I remember Festers Quest as a pretty decent game. I will keep remembering it as such because it was an escape for me in a period of my life that blew chunks. It's nice for me to keep that memory, so I do, eventhough I know for a fact that that game is pure trash.

I use conservatives as an example because it's timely. You could use a lot of examples for this.. Growing up with a narcissist who constantly makes you doubt yourself, for example, can really fuck up your memories. When someone says "that didn't happen" over and over again, your brain will sooner or later accept it. That's brain washing.

In short: Our brains are as imperfect as they are impressive. As maleable as they are squishy. As manipulatable as you are receptive to group-thinking and so on. This becomes more and more obvoius as you age. I'm nearing 40, and memories from my childhood are differing more and more from the people I grew up with. It's a bummer.

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I saw the title of this while scrolling down the front page of GB. I wasn't sure what it would be about but I secretly hoped it was about the Mandela Effect because that always creates entertaining discussions.

I was not disappointed.

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i need to look up that thread on favorite conspiracy theories; that thing was a goldmine!

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Dude! I thought I was going crazy. I saw the latest video of the bombcast and there was some guy calling himself Jeff and I'm like "that is totally Brett!" Glad to hear a reasonable explanation.

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I swear I can never tell when a conspiracy video is just a goof or when it's serious.

Like what the fuck is this dude on about.

"I WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED STAIN!"

The movie quotes aren't even necessarily about misremembering. It's just more convenient to change lines a bit when used out of context of the movies. "Life was like a box of chocolates" is changed to a present "Life is like a box of chocolates" because it works better when used as a quote. Similarly people say "Luke I am your father" because it's more specific and then people know you are quoting Star Wars. I even remembered the real line from the movie and said it out loud before dude played the video because I've watched Star Wars enough times in recent years and I'm not even a Star Wars fan. How do you jump from that to "Nah man it's parallel dimensions and they are crossing each other and shit is getting weird maaan"

Are people just bored and they want some more fun in the world?

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#30  Edited By FrostyRyan

You guys really wanna laugh your ass off? Start this video at 6:50 and listen to what he says. I literally spit up my drink.

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"Imagine my surprise when I found out...it's not Tostino's anymore. It's Totino's"

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What a perfect example of a conspiracy video. I love it. It's got everything - it's frantic, but not excessively so; there's a perfect amount of conflating personal experience with facts; and best of all, he really pulls the jumping-to-outlandish-conclusions thing off wonderfully.

Oh, and don't forget, the requisite misunderstanding of the word 'theory'.

*Mwah* Bellissimo.

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Luke, I am your father

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Do the people making these videos realize all of their examples are just company logos and pop culture references?

COULD IT BE THAT POPULAR THINGS IN CULTURE ARE JUST REMEMBERED DIFFERENT WAYS SOMETIMES? AND ALSO SOMETIMES NOT?

It's one thing to remember food labels wrong. It's another to remember....other things wrong. Like if there was a mass amount of people spelling the word "car" like "kar" then you'd have a theory. But no. These....are just logos and pop culture references. People have brains and brains misremember things. That simple.

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Human memory is super wrong all the time, every time you think about something the memory is actually rewritten in your brain and changes. The referential nature of humans and how dumb we can be it's no surprise we remember something wrong, and it propagates. I dont remember that many rainy days as a kid and summer lasting forever, but if i'm sure if I go back and check the average rainfall a few decades ago wasn't different and summer is a fixed length.

Especially older stuff that was made popular before the internet, when you couldn't go look it up on youtube. Before Star Wars came out on video or it was easier to own a copy, friends hanging out being nerds saying "Luke I am your father" with no way of knowing. Kirk never said "Beam me up Scotty either".

So instead of assuming reality is breaking down, chalk it up to human frailty and a modified version of Hanlon's Razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity", just Mandela effect that to say "Space Time Distortion" or "things companies spell weird so they can trademark" instead of malice and you're golden.

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#35  Edited By atomicoldman

@frostyryan: Holy shit, that video. All of that video. All of it.

"Who doesn't love Oreo Double Stuf cookies. I LOVE OREO DOUBLE STUF COOKIES!"

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Please remove your tinfoil hat and read some books on human psychology.

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It basically comes down to this.

You have discovered that a certain fact that you were quite certain of is actually quite different in reality.

Which one do you think is more probable:

a)The fabric of reality has been shifted, either because of a conscious decision of a party with unknown motives, or because of an unknown physical process, which in effect altered the current state of some of the events from the past, only leaving your memory of the true nature of the previous state of reality.

b)You misremembered something.

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#38  Edited By madladunit

A guy that thought that Nelson Mandela died in the 80s (before he was released in one of the most famous and memorable world events of the last century)...is completely sold on a nonsensical theory about alternative realities and bears or something?

HOLD THE PHONE AND SIGN ME UP THIS FELLOW IS A GENIUS

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Duders, I don't remember this thread existing...

OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII~~

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@twolines: Now that you mention it, I always remembered my name as ElectronicOldMan, not AtomicOldMan. What timeline is this!?

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Great responses thanks for lol.

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@frostyryan: I lost it at Froot Loops.

Jay-Z removed the dash from his name a few years ago. Hopefully it makes it into a future edition of these videos.

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This guy vapes

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So... basically: this guy is admitting that he doesn't pay attention and is too stupid to realize that he didn't pay attention and that is somehow a conspiracy theory of a 'mandela effect' that applies to everyone?

I don't know about you, but Darth Vader always said: 'No, I am your father'. I remember it as such. The social use became 'Luke, I am your father' when people were referencing it or making jokes about something. That's two separate things that the human mind can keep separate if you pay attention. If you didn't pay attention, hey that's cool. But after being confronted with that fact you'd know: 'Oh, I guess I didn't pay attention'. To think this guy tries to claim it is anything other than that is hilarious.

Also, @mike isn't this just an advertisement thread? This, alongside chemtrails like another user pointed out and the 'flat earth theory', is just a bunch of people making ridiculous claims because they know some people are susceptible to them and they make money off these video's. This being posted here is quite literally their manipulation scheme working to get a lot of views and make money: 'dudes check this video out omg!'

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Looking up this made-up nonsense was a waste of phone battery... there is a difference between a "phenomenon" and coincidence.

There is a really good episode of the Hidden brain podcast on NPR about why we're so prone to making up patterns that aren't there.

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#47  Edited By nnickers

This was the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Thanks OP.

I love picturing this guy slamming his fist down with a scowl when he asserts "I would REMEMBER if it was -STAIN!"

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Upon listening to the first minute of the OP video, all I can think of is Philly Boy Roy and Roy JR.

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#49  Edited By mike

@zevvion: No, it really isn't. The spirit of the No Advertising rule is so that people don't spam their own videos and projects on the forums looking for views, sales, or whatever. That clearly wasn't the intention here.

In the future if you think something is violating a rule, please just use the flag button or send the moderators a PM instead of addressing it in the topic itself. No rules are being broken here and the topic isn't going to be closed. Thanks.

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I don't want to be flippant, but idea that he mentions 'that nothing has made sense since 911' really hammers home how isolated some American communities were from the larger world, and how that event really pierced the bubble of their reality. These are people just trying to make sense of their world and apply a sort of juvenile logic.