Soulja boy is an excellent musician.

Oh god, wow.

ITT: buyj3llo grasps at straws. Your arguments are lolworthy at best.

"Oh god, wow.

ITT: buyj3llo grasps at straws. Your arguments are lolworthy at best."

"buyj3llo said:

"DualReaver said:

"Well he's not calling them bitches, "But supaman that hoe" is kinda offensive too isn't it?
And he is not a musician."

how is he not a musician? he makes music. You may not like it but it still music."

SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK
SHE GOT A DONK

^This... is not music."

"buyj3llo said:

"DualReaver said:

"Really Soulja boy is what's wrong with a lot of today's music.
There is no thought or meaning or hard work put into it, it's just a simple beat with bland shallow lyrics, but it's catchy and makes a lot of money.
Not many artists really put their hearts into their music anymore, it's all about money.

It's why this music isn't going to remembered like Tupacs', pink floyds', Led Zeppelins'. Rushs', Bob Marleys', etc."

Thats' like saying people aren't going to remember Daft punk , or the sugar hill gang, or the Beastie Boys. Their songs had little substance and meaning other than being fun. I don't see a problem with fun music for fun's sake. Everything doesn't have to be deep and introspective. Sometimes it's just nice to dance and have a good that. Thats how those songs are going to be remembered. People are going to look back and remember simple, enjoyable times that they had."

Yes, simple times when I supermaned that hoe, that was a good time in my life. Not being inspired by people that pour their heart out for music, no of course not thats for saps
/sarcasm"

Soulja boy is a turd man. 

"he isn't a musician. bottom line. he is a performer. BIG DIFFERENCE. "

"nobody, including a rap/techno artist considers a computer an instrument, its just a tool. an instrument has a very distinct definition. "

fuck soulja boy and his shitty cult of what people think is music.

"buyj3llo said:

"DualReaver said:

"buyj3llo said:

"DualReaver said:

"buyj3llo said:

"DualReaver said:

"bigpig33 said:

"if u knew what superman that hoe ment u would change ur mind"

I already posted what it means.
;)"

I'm pretty sure thats not what it means. People just retroconed it. It obviously makes much more since in the context of the song, where it is related to the dance."

Nope that is what supaman that hoe means no joke."

In the context of the song he talks about various other dances before and after the superman line. And the entire song is about a dance, not sex. If you interpret the superman line as a sexual innuendo, then it doesn't match up with the rest of the subject matter, however if you interpret it as a dance, then it makes sence.

Also, if you do the dance, the "super man" part intentionally matches up with the superman line of the song, further showing that it is in relation to the dance and not a sexual act."

Here's the lryics you tard it's almost all sexual.

*lyrics*
"

I don't see where they are. The word "hoe" and "bitch" don't necessarily refer to women all the time. When used as slang they can refer to anything ("That Homework was a bitch"). He isn't directly addressing a women (or anyone for that matter).

Maybe I shouldn't say that his music is never sexual. But I will say that it's never over the top. He never is direct about sexual intercourse in his 2007 album. The most sexual thing he will every say is "shake your booty" or something mild like that.
"

SOULJA BOY OFF IN THIS HOE.
Are you a troll?
Seriously I'm thinking you are at this point no one can seriously be this fucking stupid."

What the hell are you even arguing at this point?
Yes he is by definition a person who makes music. but not excellent music and that's a god damn fact.
And yes his songs contain lyrics that demean women.

Why are you even defending him? He's makes poor quality music and people knock him for that.
No one is saying you can't go dance to it if you want.

Please stop saying slang it's obvious he's at least hinting at sex.
Also "Supersoak dat hoe".
The song is very dirty, and it can obviously and easily be interpreted as sexual.

"TwoOneFive said:

"nobody, including a rap/techno artist considers a computer an instrument, its just a tool. an instrument has a very distinct definition. "

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Jeff Gerstmann plays the computer."

ATTN: BUYJ3LLO

Is this music? I bet you like this song, these kids are your favorite band, amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr317Cze3nE&feature;=related

Word. Memphis rappers suck.

said: When you are trying to make fun of anyone about how they talk, please try to type proper english. There is no word such as: stupidest 

Daft punk did something original though, their sound was unique.

you know I'm surprised someone is defending he's such a tool like Ice T said EAT A DICK SOULJA BOI

"ATTN: BUYJ3LLO

Is this music? I bet you like this song, these kids are your favorite band, amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr317Cze3nE&feature;=related"

"Acid_Muffin said:

"ATTN: BUYJ3LLO

Is this music? I bet you like this song, these kids are your favorite band, amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr317Cze3nE&feature;=related"

What the hell..... Fucking torture"

"ATTN: BUYJ3LLO

Is this music? I bet you like this song, these kids are your favorite band, amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr317Cze3nE&feature;=related"

"Daft punk did something original though, their sound was unique."

I said soulja boy is valid he just isn't good. Like in my previous post you can consider it music it has beat, melody,rhythm, its just the lowest form of music.

"Acid_Muffin said:

"ATTN: BUYJ3LLO

Is this music? I bet you like this song, these kids are your favorite band, amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr317Cze3nE&feature;=related"

What the hell..... Fucking torture"

"Karmum said:

"His music is shit. But he knows how to make money, the only good thing he does. Make shitty music that teenage kids will flock to. He is no real talent. Cannot imagine what he does live."

If the teenagers are flocking to his music then it must not be shit to them. He has a talent for making music that his demographic likes."

Soulja Boy and other retards like him are destroying hip-hop. When Nas said hip-hop died, he was referring to bullshit like Soulja Boy.

Midwest and East Coast rap all the way.

You loss all credibility when you said excellent I mean he is ok for mainstream but still a one trick pony and I didnt find crank dat good til travis barker helped and no good songs since then. Lil Wayne is bettter for mainstream and Lupe Fiasco is the best lyrically .

"I said soulja boy is valid he just isn't good
"

"keyhunter said:

"TwoOneFive said:

"nobody, including a rap/techno artist considers a computer an instrument, its just a tool. an instrument has a very distinct definition. "

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Jeff Gerstmann plays the computer."

but does he make music with it?"

"Soulja Boy and other retards like him are destroying hip-hop. When Nas said hip-hop died, he was referring to bullshit like Soulja Boy.

Midwest and East Coast rap all the way."

"buyj3llo said:

"keyhunter said:

"TwoOneFive said:

"nobody, including a rap/techno artist considers a computer an instrument, its just a tool. an instrument has a very distinct definition. "

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Jeff Gerstmann plays the computer."

but does he make music with it?"

Don't you listen to Midnight Brown?"

"keyhunter said:

"buyj3llo said:

"keyhunter said:

"TwoOneFive said:

"nobody, including a rap/techno artist considers a computer an instrument, its just a tool. an instrument has a very distinct definition. "

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Jeff Gerstmann plays the computer."

but does he make music with it?"

Don't you listen to Midnight Brown?"

no, should I?"

"You loss all credibility when you said excellent I mean he is ok for mainstream but still a one trick pony and I didnt find crank dat good til travis barker helped and no good songs since then. Lil Wayne is bettter for mainstream and Lupe Fiasco is the best lyrically ."

"buyj3llo said:

"Karmum said:

"His music is shit. But he knows how to make money, the only good thing he does. Make shitty music that teenage kids will flock to. He is no real talent. Cannot imagine what he does live."

If the teenagers are flocking to his music then it must not be shit to them. He has a talent for making music that his demographic likes."

Not necessarily, its just that one fluke of a song makes these kids want to hear his shit even more. Trust me, shit music to adults is probably considered amazing to most teenage kids."

"quadomatic said:

"Soulja Boy and other retards like him are destroying hip-hop. When Nas said hip-hop died, he was referring to bullshit like Soulja Boy.

Midwest and East Coast rap all the way."

I'm sure there were times when Nas wasn't the best rapper alive.  When Nas was first starting out he probably wasn't very good either. If people would have counted him out then without giving him a chance then he probably wouldn't have improved and gotten to the point where he is now. Just because you don't like somebody's song doesn't make them invalid from a musicianship standpoint."

"buyj3llo said:

"quadomatic said:

"Soulja Boy and other retards like him are destroying hip-hop. When Nas said hip-hop died, he was referring to bullshit like Soulja Boy.

Midwest and East Coast rap all the way."

I'm sure there were times when Nas wasn't the best rapper alive.  When Nas was first starting out he probably wasn't very good either. If people would have counted him out then without giving him a chance then he probably wouldn't have improved and gotten to the point where he is now. Just because you don't like somebody's song doesn't make them invalid from a musicianship standpoint."

Uhhh...I never said that Nas was the best rapper alive. I was referring to his commentary on how crap like Soulja Boy is destroying Hip-Hop. It has nothing to do with Soulja Boy not being good to start out with - his style is just plain awful. You can't get better at making garbage.

And Nas was ALWAYS amazing. Go listen to Illmatic."

"yes."

"quadomatic said:

"buyj3llo said:

"quadomatic said:

"Soulja Boy and other retards like him are destroying hip-hop. When Nas said hip-hop died, he was referring to bullshit like Soulja Boy.

Midwest and East Coast rap all the way."

I'm sure there were times when Nas wasn't the best rapper alive.  When Nas was first starting out he probably wasn't very good either. If people would have counted him out then without giving him a chance then he probably wouldn't have improved and gotten to the point where he is now. Just because you don't like somebody's song doesn't make them invalid from a musicianship standpoint."

Uhhh...I never said that Nas was the best rapper alive. I was referring to his commentary on how crap like Soulja Boy is destroying Hip-Hop. It has nothing to do with Soulja Boy not being good to start out with - his style is just plain awful. You can't get better at making garbage.

And Nas was ALWAYS amazing. Go listen to Illmatic."

1. I never said that you said Nas was the best rapper alive.

2. The way Nas (allegedly) considers Soulja Boy garbage is the same way some people could consider rap as a whole garbage. Nas can say Soulja Boy is garbage, but then Soulja Boy could turn around and say Nas is garbage. Who is right? It's all a matter of how you look at things.
"

"buyj3llo said:

"quadomatic said:

"buyj3llo said:

"quadomatic said:

"Soulja Boy and other retards like him are destroying hip-hop. When Nas said hip-hop died, he was referring to bullshit like Soulja Boy.

Midwest and East Coast rap all the way."

I'm sure there were times when Nas wasn't the best rapper alive.  When Nas was first starting out he probably wasn't very good either. If people would have counted him out then without giving him a chance then he probably wouldn't have improved and gotten to the point where he is now. Just because you don't like somebody's song doesn't make them invalid from a musicianship standpoint."

Uhhh...I never said that Nas was the best rapper alive. I was referring to his commentary on how crap like Soulja Boy is destroying Hip-Hop. It has nothing to do with Soulja Boy not being good to start out with - his style is just plain awful. You can't get better at making garbage.

And Nas was ALWAYS amazing. Go listen to Illmatic."

1. I never said that you said Nas was the best rapper alive.

2. The way Nas (allegedly) considers Soulja Boy garbage is the same way some people could consider rap as a whole garbage. Nas can say Soulja Boy is garbage, but then Soulja Boy could turn around and say Nas is garbage. Who is right? It's all a matter of how you look at things.
"

Yeah, if you look at things from the perspective of a 12 year old retard who listens to nothing but the radio and has NO CLUE what decent music is, then maybe Soulja Boy would seem like decent music."

Here's an example, lets compare the lyrics of "Soulja Girl", to the lyrics of Dumb It Down by Lupe Fiasco.

"Soulja Boy Tell 'em. (Yeeeah)
Right Now It's Going Down. (Yeeah)
Looking For That Soulja Girl. (Oh Yeeeah)
Aye Aye Aye Aye (Damn)

Watch Me Do
Watch Me Do
Eh Eh

Aye,
You Gta Step Like This To Be A Soulja Girl.
You Gta Step Like That To Be A Soulja Girl.
Girl Let Me See You. (Youuu)
Tell Me Youu. (Youuu)
You Gta Walk It Out, To Be A Soulja Ma.
Know What I'm Talking 'bout.
Hey Soulja Girl.
Girl Let Me See You. (Youuu)
Tell Me Youu. (Youuu)

You Gta Walk It Out, To Be My Soulja Girl.
I Can Take You Out And Pimpin' You Out?? Told Ya Girl.
[?] From Monday To Sunday.
I Know We Going But Everybody Fall Lil Sunday.
Soulja Boy ???? Girls Gone Wild.
From The Corner Of My Eye, I Saw Her Smile.
You Wanna Be My Girl, You Gta Wipe Me Down?
Dress So Fresh, Make The Girls Say Wow.

Loving Me, My Soulja Girl. [x2]
You Gta Step Like This To Be A Soulja Girl.
You Gta Step Like That To Be A Soulja Girl.
Girl Let Me See You. (Youuu)
Tell Me Youu. (Youuu)
You Gta Walk It Out, To Be A Soulja Ma.
Know What I'm Talking 'bout.
Hey Soulja Girl.
Girl Let Me See You. (Youuu)
Tell Me Youu. (Youuu)

We On The Phone Like Da Da Da Da Da Da Da Da. [x2]
She Calling Me, I'm Calling Her.
She Following Me, I'm Following Her.
My Mom Picks Up The Phone And Says;
"You Got This Girl Sprung."
She Got Me Sprung Too.
She Says; "Both Of Yall Dumb."
But I'm Diggin' Her, She Diggin' Me.
And She So Cute, She So Lovely.

You Gta Step Like This To Be A Soulja Girl.
You Gta Step Like That To Be A Soulja Girl.
Girl Let Me See You. (Youuu)
Tell Me Youu. (Youuu)
You Gta Walk It Out, To Be A Soulja Ma.
Know What I'm Talking 'bout.
Hey Soulja Girl.
Girl Let Me See You. (Youuu)
Tell Me Youu. (Youuu)

Da Da Da Da Da Da Da Da. [x8] [Until Fade, Basically]"

GARBAGE!!!!!!!! Now lets see Dumb it Down:

[Verse 1:]
I'm fearless
Now hear this
I'm earless
And I'm peer-less
That means I'm eyeless
Which means I'm tearless
Which means my iris resides where my ears is
Which means I'm blinded
But I'mma find it I can feel it's nearness
But I'mma veer so I don't come near
Like a chicken or a deer
But I remember I'm not a listener or a seer so my windshield smear
Here, you steer, I really shouldn't be behind this, clearly cause my blindness
The windshield is minstrel, the whole grill is roadkill, so trill and so sincere. Yeah, I'm both them there
Took both pills, when a bloke in a trench coat and the locs in the chair had approached him here
And he clear as a ghost, so a biter of the throats in the mirror
The writer of the quotes for the ghosts who supplier of the notes to the living
Riveting is rosy, pockets full of posies, given to the mother of the deceased. Awaken at war, 'til I'm restin' in peace

[Chorus 1:]
You goin' over niggas' heads Lu (Dumb it down)
They tellin' me that they don't feel you (Dumb it down)
We ain't graduate from school nigga (Dumb it down)
Them big words ain't cool nigga (Dumb it down)
Yeah I heard Mean And Vicious nigga (Dumb it down)
Make a song for the bitches nigga (Dumb it down)
We don't care about the weather nigga (Dumb it down)
You'll sell more records if you (Dumb it down)

[Verse 2:]
And I'm mouthless
Which means I'm soundless
Now as far as the hearing, I've found it
It was as far as the distance from the earring to the ground is
But the doorknockers on the ear of a stewardess in a Lear
She fine and she flyin, I feel I'm flying by'em 'cause my mind's on cloud nine and I'm a mime at the same time
Pimp C the wings on the underground king
Who's also Klingon
To infinity and beyond
Something really stinks, but I Spinks like Leon
Or lying in the desert
I'm flying on Pegasus you're flying on the pheasant
Rider of the white powder, picker of the fire flowers, spit hot fire like Dylon on Chappelle's skit
Yeah, smell it on my unicorn, don't snort the white horse, but toot my own horn (sleep)

[Chorus 2:]
You've been shedding too much light Lu (Dumb it down)
You make'em wanna do right Lu (Dumb it down)
They're getting self-esteem it down)
These girls are trying to be queens Lu (Dumb it down)
They're trying to graduate from school Lu (Dumb it down)
They're starting to think that smart is cool Lu (Dumb it down)
They're trying to get up out the hood Lu (Dumb it down)
I'll tell you what you should do (Dumb it down)

[Verse 3:]
And I'm brainless
Which means I'm headless
Like Ichabod Crane is
Or foreplay-less sex is
Which makes me stainless
With no neck left to hang the chain with
Which makes me necklace-less
Like a necklace theft
And I ain't used my headrest yet
They said they need proof like a vestless chest 'bout the best, fair F-F-jet in the nest
Who exudes confidence and excess depth
Even Scuba Steve would find it hard to breathe
Around these leagues
My snorkle is a tuba, Lu the ruler around these seas
Westside Poseidon, Westside beside'em, chest high and rising
Almost touching the knees of stewardess and the pilot
Lucky they make you flowered
Personal floating devices, tricks falling out of my sleeves
David Blaine
Make it rain
You Make a boat
I make a plane
Then, I pull the plug and I make it drain
Until I feel like flowing and filling it up again..(Westside)

[Chorus 3:]
You putting me to sleep nigga (Dumb it down)
That's why you ain't popping in the streets nigga (Dumb it down)
You ain't winning no awards nigga (Dumb it down)
Robots and skateboards nigga? (Dumb it down)
GQ Man Of The Year G? (Dumb it down)
Shit ain't rocking over here B (Dumb it down)
Won't you talk about your cars nigga? (Dumb it down)
And what the fuck is goyard nigga (Dumb it down)
Make it rain for the chicks (Dumb it down)
Pour champagne on a bitch (Dumb it down)
What the fuck is wrong with you? (Dumb it down)
How can I get on a song with you? (Dumb it down)

[Gemini: talking]
Look B, here's my man, my two way, (hey) uh, what should I - ah here take this (hey) that right there, fuck what my boys talk about nigga, (hey) nigga you hot to me, I like you (Dumb it down)

[Lupe:]
Bishop G, they told me I should come down cousin, but I flatly refuse I ain't dumb down nothing

Im guessing your new to rap that is how I used to be but once you get out of that listen to lupe fiasco streets on fire, hip-hop saved my life , go-go gadget flow and dumb it down(kinda makes fun of mainstream rappers) or Fort minor Right now or styles of beyond second to none or bleach. Than look at soulja boy and how simple he is and how many words he makes up

 comparison of two songs owns topic creator with comparison Lupe Fiasco is king soulja boy is mainstream and for rap fans that just wanna have fun.

"Im guessing your new to rap that is how I used to be but once you get out of that listen to lupe fiasco streets on fire, hip-hop saved my life , go-go gadget flow and dumb it down(kinda makes fun of mainstream rappers) or Fort minor Right now or styles of beyond second to none or bleach. Than look at soulja boy and how simple he is and how many words he makes up"

"Karmum said:

"buyj3llo said:

"Karmum said:

"His music is shit. But he knows how to make money, the only good thing he does. Make shitty music that teenage kids will flock to. He is no real talent. Cannot imagine what he does live."

If the teenagers are flocking to his music then it must not be shit to them. He has a talent for making music that his demographic likes."

Not necessarily, its just that one fluke of a song makes these kids want to hear his shit even more. Trust me, shit music to adults is probably considered amazing to most teenage kids."

I don't think most teenage kids consider the music adults listen to amazing. Tastes shift with time. I'm sure that the people who are adults now didn't like their parents music either. Every generation children move on to their new music just as their parents before them did."

Solja Boy= Decline in Western Civilization Pt. 4.

If anyone has seen those movies. Bottom Line, his music-isn't.

hopefully he doesnt truly believe what he is saying and is just doing this for publicity or I might have to mini-bio quote this because it is very funny to me

He is a disgrace to music new and old.

"Im guessing your new to rap that is how I used to be but once you get out of that listen to lupe fiasco streets on fire, hip-hop saved my life , go-go gadget flow and dumb it down(kinda makes fun of mainstream rappers) or Fort minor Right now or styles of beyond second to none or bleach. Than look at soulja boy and how simple he is and how many words he makes up"

"buyj3llo said:

"Karmum said:

"buyj3llo said:

"Karmum said:

"His music is shit. But he knows how to make money, the only good thing he does. Make shitty music that teenage kids will flock to. He is no real talent. Cannot imagine what he does live."

If the teenagers are flocking to his music then it must not be shit to them. He has a talent for making music that his demographic likes."

Not necessarily, its just that one fluke of a song makes these kids want to hear his shit even more. Trust me, shit music to adults is probably considered amazing to most teenage kids."

I don't think most teenage kids consider the music adults listen to amazing. Tastes shift with time. I'm sure that the people who are adults now didn't like their parents music either. Every generation children move on to their new music just as their parents before them did."

Like more of the music my parents listen to than modern stuff. :|"

"HoNgKoNgPh0oEy said:

"Im guessing your new to rap that is how I used to be but once you get out of that listen to lupe fiasco streets on fire, hip-hop saved my life , go-go gadget flow and dumb it down(kinda makes fun of mainstream rappers) or Fort minor Right now or styles of beyond second to none or bleach. Than look at soulja boy and how simple he is and how many words he makes up"

Can't there be room for both? There is a time and place for soulja boy and lupe fiasco. Both offer different things. Soulja boy may not be as deep as lupe, but that doesn't invalidate him.

It's like saying you can't have geometry wars and metal gear solid 4. Just because geometry wars isn't on the deep, hardcore level that MGS4 is on doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

"

"HoNgKoNgPh0oEy said:

"Im guessing your new to rap that is how I used to be but once you get out of that listen to lupe fiasco streets on fire, hip-hop saved my life , go-go gadget flow and dumb it down(kinda makes fun of mainstream rappers) or Fort minor Right now or styles of beyond second to none or bleach. Than look at soulja boy and how simple he is and how many words he makes up"

Can't there be room for both? There is a time and place for soulja boy and lupe fiasco. Both offer different things. Soulja boy may not be as deep as lupe, but that doesn't invalidate him.

It's like saying you can't have geometry wars and metal gear solid 4. Just because geometry wars isn't on the deep, hardcore level that MGS4 is on doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

"