Next year is my final year studying international marketing management. And I have to specialize in some culture. Thing is I'm split between Shanghai and New York. Universities I plan on going to are Pace in Manhattan, or Fudan. I'm pretty sure I have good enough grades to get into both places, but uh... what's most fun? I'm thinking Shanghai is A LOT of fun... but that is mostly because of the new and exciting culture. But I'm thinking that's only fun the first couple of weeks, and will get boring after a while. But New York... god damn. The possibilities are endless. Lots of stuff to see, and there's always some place to drink. I'm thinking good times all year long. I dunno...
Ok, if you had the choice...... where would you go?
Edit: Anybody heard of either unis? Pace? Fudan? Any good?
Also, I'm Norwegian.
Study in Shanghai or New York?
I would never go to Shanghai. That's in effing China. Damn commies. Can't trust'em as far as you can throw them.
If you're going into marketing, getting a broader world sense by experiencing a drastically different culture will be invaluable. Also don't forget China is going to own the planet in the next few decades.
Or I could be completely wrong. I just don't like China because the government there is messed up. Probably not as bad as N. Korea or something, but messed up.
" @StarvingGamer: That's true. Considering everything I've learned the past couple of years, China will take over the world, in the same way the USA took the world from the UK. China is currently being industrialized, but the trend shows that China will start innovation soon. Which means they will have the most important role in international trade whithin just a few decades. They are already the second largest economy in the world. But still... New York seems awesome:) "Nah. Some dumbass Republican (like Mike Huckabee) will somehow win a presidential election here, and then bomb China. Sure, they probably have a bigger army, and nukes and stuff, but that ain't gonna stop the Huck-ster! He's got Chuck Norris on his side!
(How have American politics fallen this far?)
" I think I'd like to vacation in Shanghai, but not live there. I imagine culture shock starts to wear on you after a few weeks. Though, maybe New York would be as much of a culture shock to you as Shanghai. I don't know. "I think you're right. Just as an example, I remember the first time I met an American, and I still remember how confused I got by getting asked "how are you?" by a stranger. I'm thinking that's just the beginning :P
But he has not been to the US in his life." Shanghai, no questions asked. With the kind of job you will be going into they will pick the guy with international experience over the guy who has been in the US his whole life. "
I would think it would be much easier for a marketing management major to make it in NYC than Shangai. Shangai would be cool for the first week because you would be in China, but New York is the cream of the crop when it comes to business. It has a world wide reputation for a reason and many people could only dream about one day getting a job there. If you could "specialize" (could you elaborate on what this means) and succeed there you can make it anywhere. For users saying "china is going to take over the world", that's a huge stretch. They are still decades behind the US even at their current GDP growth and that is assuming they continue on their current path. Look at Japan in the 80's and the hype behind them, and now they are stagnated.
Where do you want to work after college? Going to school in NYC would lend itself to you landing an internship and a job. You already know English, which is a huge plus. How much Chinese do you know?
Honestly I think it comes down to the school. Look at the list of alumni, who recruits from each school, and what you want to take away from the education. This is far more important than the city itself. Pick the school that makes you happy and the rest will fall in place.
I haven't been to Shanghai, but I've been to Hong Kong a few times and I can tell you that you won't want to live there for very long. Neat to visit, but that excitement wears off pretty quick, and you realize you're in a stinky, dirty city. (well, I guess that would apply to NY too). At least in NY you can travel to the more civilized neighboring states.
" I would go Shanghai, mainly because of the money you would save... if you lived in New York, be prepared to pay high costs of living, whereas in China it would be affordable to live. Not to mention the fact that China will be the masters of the universe in a few years. "So wrong. China is far behind the US in terms of GDP and far behind most nations in terms of GDP per-capita.
I'd go for Spain! Muchas chicas calientes, en especial en el verano. ahah" @TooWalrus: Yeah, there's ESAD in Barcelona, there's France, Singapore, Manheim (Germany), Vancouver (lol).. and lots of others but those two are the ones I'm considering. "
You can't go wrong with choosing a Mediterranean country.
I am so wrong that that is why the USA is $3 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt to China." @Tsoglani said:
" I would go Shanghai, mainly because of the money you would save... if you lived in New York, be prepared to pay high costs of living, whereas in China it would be affordable to live. Not to mention the fact that China will be the masters of the universe in a few years. "So wrong. China is far behind the US in terms of GDP and far behind most nations in terms of GDP per-capita. "
I must also be wrong in thinking that New York is cheaper to live in than Shanghai? WTF
For Pace just research online to see what people have to say I suppose. Living in NY can be pricey but if you move out to the outer boroughs it can be somewhat affordable with a roommate. Just be careful the neighborhood you move in to. I kind of like the Astoria area in Queens near Long Island City. Its just a few stops outside of the city via public transportation (Train). I think Pace is located near the financial district. I've never been to China so I can't comment on it.
If you're going to an experience I would just say Shanghi. You're not going to find anything that different in New York assuming you live in America.
Dude, don't go to China. That place fucking sucks. The air will kill you if you don't get raped first. Plus while the culture can be nice, I am not too sure that it something you want to live with for a year. Its good for a week or so. New York however, you would not feel out of place all the time and there is so much to see and do. And there is tons of culture there.
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