The Walking Dead Season 3 Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

That was a great episode. I really hope that Daryl survives--he's my favorite character!

@TheHT said:

@Trainer_Red said:

Michonne is pissing me off. Why hasn't she told the group that both Andrea and Meryl are in Woodbury? It would save a lot of time and unnecessary drama.

Does she actually know they're the group Andrea was with before?

Supposedly Andrea told her everything about herself, which I assume would include detailed information on the group she was with before. At the very least the names Rick, Daryl (who you'd think she'd also remember from more recent discussions with Merle), Maggie, Glen, an old man named Herschel, Carol, a kid named Carl, etc... all being together in one group should ring a fucking bell, but no. So either she's a fucking idiot or a shitty listener, or something.

The action in that episode was fine, but fuck it if character details like that didn't ruin the whole god damn episode for me. At this moment I'm ready to give up on the whole show. I'm sure I'll wind down and be back on board for some more zombie action in February, but I'd be much happier with this show if it stopped trying to have anything to do with people other than our group at all. It's not good at it. It's astoundingly bad at it. Not that it even handles our group well, but it can at least it handle them running from zombies.

@Kidavenger said:

@LikeaSsur said:

@Patman99 said:

Also, I always felt sorry for Axel but now he just seems like a pervert. Oh well...

As he said, there was not a lot of women in prison. His social skills and desire with/for the opposite sex are probably off the charts. You can safely continue feeling sorry for him.

If he's anything like his character in the comics...

Don't feel sorry for him is all I'm saying.

You are confusing your prison characters. Axel in the comics is the big, fat, bearded dude that looks like a biker.

Oh, and great episode by the way.

@TheHT@laserbolts@HistoryInRust Sunday, February 10th according to The Talking Dead's Chris Hardwick.

That was a good episode.

For the rest of the season Daryl has to survive and Andrea has to die. There is a minimum amount of interesting characters needed for a good show and also a maximum amount of annoying characters that i can tolerate.

A character can be useless like T-Dogg was, at least he didn't get in the way of showing more interesting stuff going on around him. Andrea is just painful to watch.

Daryl is the shit. Love this guy.

HASHTAG LORI IN LABOR! SOMEONE GET WIL WHEATON ON THE PHONE BECAUSE HE'S APPARENTLY THE OFFICIAL CELEBRITY FOR NERD SHIT!

Yeah, it's been said, but killing off the one black actor to make room for a new black actor is embarrassing. Although I suppose I'd rather have Cutty from The Wire, but I was warming up to what's-his-name, Oscar? Rest in peace.

@pyromagnestir said:

@TheHT said:

@Trainer_Red said:

Michonne is pissing me off. Why hasn't she told the group that both Andrea and Meryl are in Woodbury? It would save a lot of time and unnecessary drama.

Does she actually know they're the group Andrea was with before?

Supposedly Andrea told her everything about herself, which I assume would include detailed information on the group she was with before. At the very least the names Rick, Daryl (who you'd think she'd also remember from more recent discussions with Merle), Maggie, Glen, an old man named Herschel, Carol, a kid named Carl, etc... all being together in one group should ring a fucking bell, but no. So either she's a fucking idiot or a shitty listener, or something.

Are YOU a fucking idiot? Even if Andrea had gone into detail about her group, nobody describes their friends bodily features, they describe their characteristics.

She wouldn't say: "Oh yeah, Rick. Rick was about 6'0", wears a revolver all the time and has a growing beard."

She would say something like: "Rick use to be a cop, and I think that followed him into our group. He sort of became our leader and I think he deserved it. He generally called the shots well, I'd follow him anywhere."

Maybe Meral would describe Glenn as "the asian guy" but he's a racist. A normal person would describe their friend as funny, or outgoing.

And even if she did pick up small details, how could she possibly know that a group of random people are the exact same group her friend was in, especially considering they all got separated MONTHS ago and all could be dead or miles away by now.

edit: And lets also not forget that Michonne isn't the type of person that would hold onto unimportant details. She is more worried about surviving than remembering who was in Andreas group. She killed the two zombies that were with her (who were actually her boyfriend and best friend in the comic) without a second thought, so I think that tells you a lot about the type of person she is.

Well those two white people and that one black lady that came with Tyreese aren't going to make it to the end of this season. They just scream red shirt to me.

It was cool to see Shane, even if he was a hallucination.

I know the Governor sent a death squad after Michonne, but goddamn what the hell kind of grudge does she have against him? Maybe she had more motivation to murder him in the comics, but in the show, it's not like she found any concrete, incriminating evidence of horrible atrocities committed by him. Her quest for vengeance only made shit worse and she knew killing his zombie daughter wasn't going to lead to anything good. Maybe people give her a pass for being from the comics and wielding a katana, but goddamn she annoys me.

Also what's the rules about getting zombie blood in your non-zombie-caused wounds? It has been bothering me all season with characters slaughtering zombies with open wounds on them. Like Rick with cuts on his head slaughtering zombies in the prison, Michone getting covered in zombie guts after getting shot in the leg, and now with Glenn tearing off a zombie arm and gutting its bones after he got wrecked by Merle. Granted Glenn kept the zombie arm away from his head, it still made me worry and go "you've got open cuts on your head! Keep that arm away from you!"

@Redbullet685 said:

@Kidavenger said:

@LikeaSsur said:

@Patman99 said:

Also, I always felt sorry for Axel but now he just seems like a pervert. Oh well...

As he said, there was not a lot of women in prison. His social skills and desire with/for the opposite sex are probably off the charts. You can safely continue feeling sorry for him.

If he's anything like his character in the comics...

Don't feel sorry for him is all I'm saying.

You are confusing your prison characters. Axel in the comics is the big, fat, bearded dude that looks like a biker.

Oh, and great episode by the way.

Yeah, maybe I am confusing my comic book prison characters but I thought Axel (in the comics) was the good guy prisoner. The guy that actually tried to fit in with the others and not just try and cause shit for no reason. That is also how I felt about tv Axel until this recent episode.

But yeah, great episode. This whole season has been great.

@Patman99: That's a bit much, don't you think? He didn't even say or do anything bad, and even said "I didn't mean to offend." And then he tried flirting badly with Carol. So a few innocent questions about Beth's family and a bad pickup line, and now he's a horny, no good pervert?

man, black guys seem to be dropping like flies this season, frist T-dog then that nice prisoner guy who i didnt even know his name.

now theres this replacement black guy. i hope he lives. and i liked that prisoner guy!

oh yeah, and i kinda hate michone. she's bitchy, annoying, stupid and always has the stupid pouty bitchy expression on her face. wtf. i was totally ready to like a strong willed female character but she's totally unlikable. hell the breakout likable female character is maggie. she's actually cool and not useless/stupid.

@Landon: Small details like their names? Rick, Herschel, Carl, Daryl (again, Merle's brother Daryl was a point of contention for her and Andrea and Merle very recently, and she presumably heard the argument Glen and Merle were having when Merle took them, which was "Hey guy I know take me to my brother Daryl or I'll do bad stuff!" and she knows Andrea was part of Daryl's group as well...) Glen, Maggie, Carol, Beth. All together in one group. Plus a baby (if Andrea mentioned Lori was pregnant it wouldn't take a tremendous amount of mental prowess to figure Lori died in childbirth, or something, but I don't remember if Andrea knew Lori was pregnant.)

Let's say she described them by nothing except their names. (including people like Herschel, who as I said, while you're right that slipping in Glen is an Asian kid might not be something everyone might say, almost everyone talking about Herschel might say something like "Herschel was an old guy who owned the farm." or say "Rick's son Carl, he's just a kid." or "Beth was a teenage girl" or "Maggie and Glen were all lovey-dovey." or that Lori was pregnant when describing these people, but lets say she didn't even do that little) what are the odds that 2 groups survived the zombie apocalypse with made up of members with all the same names? It would at the very least be enough for me to mention Andrea and see how these people react.

Now maybe... Maybe... she put this all together and was being so obstinate because she was afraid that if she brought up Andrea and Merle that Rick wouldn't attack, which is what she wanted, but would instead try to negotiate with the Governor, and that that will come back to bite her at some point. That is my new working theory. I hope it's at least on the right path. Michonne hasn't been a good character this season. This sort of characterization would help, I think.

(as for your edit, I don't know what kind of person Michonne is. That's my problem with her. I don't read the comics. On the show she scowls and is very angry and does dumb stuff. She's like Lori, only angry and with a sword. The show didn't tell me who those zombies with her were. If she really were worried about surviving, as you say, she would stay with the governor, not go wandering out on her own in the zombie apocalypse. I know nothing about her because the show doesn't tell me anything about her. Some sense of her motivations would help, but no, let's just have her scowl some more and do stuff that doesn't make sense to me... That's why last night's episode frustrated me, I wanted some Michonne characterization, and instead I got an action focused episode and her trying to assassinate the Governor, when what fucking purpose did that serve? And then rather than bother to at least try to explain herself to Andrea, she just fucking walked out.)

@pyromagnestir:

That's fair criticism of how Michonne's being handled. I've read the comics and don't understand why on the TV show she needs to take care of the Gov personally. Her motivation is not explained well besides the fact that she knows the Gov is into some bad shit. But he did not wrong her personally (in the comics she has very real motivation for wanting to get back at the Gov) so while the fight scene between her and Gov was intense, it did not make sense to me from a narrative standpoint.

And are we lead to believe that Andrea, after all she's seen, is still sticking with the Gov and Woodbury? (The previews for February indicate this, at least)

@stryker1121: The governor did send Merle to hunt her down after she left (which is another annoying "Why the fuck did you do that?" character moment from a season full of them. Why the fuck did the governor send a team to kill her?), so there is that as a motivation for trying to kill him. I just find it very annoying when a show uses characters not talking to each other about shit they should/would be talking about in real life as a mechanism for creating drama.

I want Michonne to open her damn mouth and say something to someone. Anyone. Tell someone what she's thinking. Just once. Please... I feel the Governor's a more sympathetic character than Michonne at this point, and that's probably not how it's supposed to be.

@pyromagnestir said:

@stryker1121: The governor did send Merle to hunt her down after she left (which is another annoying "Why the fuck did you do that?" character moment from a season full of them. Why the fuck did the governor send a team to kill her?), so there is that as a motivation for trying to kill him. I just find it very annoying when a show uses characters not talking to each other about shit they should/would be talking about in real life as a mechanism for creating drama.

I want Michonne to open her damn mouth and say something to someone. Anyone. Tell someone what she's thinking. Just once. Please... I feel the Governor's a more sympathetic character than Michonne at this point, and that's probably not how it's supposed to be.

Well she knew about Woodbury and where it is. And considering he ambushes other people's camps, he would have to assume other people would do the same if they knew where Woodbury is. So it makes sense that the Governor would send a death squad after her and it doesn't help that he doesn't know what kind of person she is on account of her drawing a sword on him and not opening her damn mouth like you say.

But yeah, this episode I couldn't help but think she was a complete psychopath. I wouldn't say she is like Lori with a sword, she's more like Dale (season 2) with a sword suspecting the Governor of being completely evil shit with no evidence to back her up much like how Dale suspected Shane of killing Otis with zero evidence and just speculation. We know both characters are right because we are the omnipotent audience, but looking at the situation squarely from their perspectives, it makes zero sense how they come to those conclusions and it's just annoying that they feel confident in acting on those gut feelings. That's why I might be the only person who doesn't hate Andrea this season. Looking at the situation solely from her perspective, it's understandably why she would want to stay. It's not like she saw anything totally immoral committed by the Woodbury people thus far. And aside from the search party sent to kill her, Michonne didn't really see anything to warrant such a passionate and personal grudge against the Governor. Michonne killing The Governor's zombie daughter and then stabbing him in the eye garnered more sympathy for him and just made Michonne look like a bitch who took satisfaction in killing her.

Spoilers for the second half of this season

@SomeDeliCook said:

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I like how the half season ended with us thinking Daryll is going to get killed and a few seconds later in the second half of the season preview they show him running around in daytime in a forest with his crossbow. Way to spoil it AMC

and Glenn shouts in the preview WHAT IS HE DOING HERE so Merle is gonna live to :/

@connerthekewlkid said:

@SomeDeliCook said:

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I like how the half season ended with us thinking Daryll is going to get killed and a few seconds later in the second half of the season preview they show him running around in daytime in a forest with his crossbow. Way to spoil it AMC

and Glenn shouts in the preview WHAT IS HE DOING HERE so Merle is gonna live to :/

The whole "betraying Merle" thing might just be a ploy to get Merle inside the prison as an inside man for when the Governor assaults the prison. When you think about it, it doesn't make that much sense for the Governor to use Merle as a scapegoat when he had Daryl there to satisfy the bloodlust of the people. Unless of course he needs to use the excuse of there being a traitor as a reason for why his secure perimeter was breached.

@MiniPato said:

@connerthekewlkid said:

@SomeDeliCook said:

Spoilers for the second half of this season

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I like how the half season ended with us thinking Daryll is going to get killed and a few seconds later in the second half of the season preview they show him running around in daytime in a forest with his crossbow. Way to spoil it AMC

and Glenn shouts in the preview WHAT IS HE DOING HERE so Merle is gonna live to :/

The whole "betraying Merle" thing might just be a ploy to get Merle inside the prison as an inside man for when the Governor assaults the prison. When you think about it, it doesn't make that much sense for the Governor to use Merle as a scapegoat when he had Daryl there to satisfy the bloodlust of the people. Unless of course he needs to use the excuse of there being a traitor as a reason for why his secure perimeter was breached.

I hope they don't go the "Merle is a mole" route. It would make no sense with how paranoid Rick is, and Glenn and Maggie can testify to how brutal Merle still is. Merle voiced his displeasure with Rick to Glenn at least once. Why would they let him in the prison? I don't want them to faff around for 8 eps waiting for Merle's inevitable betrayal when it's time for the Woodbury vs. Grimes Gang battle royale.

@stryker1121 said:

@MiniPato said:

@connerthekewlkid said:

@SomeDeliCook said:

Spoilers for the second half of this season

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I like how the half season ended with us thinking Daryll is going to get killed and a few seconds later in the second half of the season preview they show him running around in daytime in a forest with his crossbow. Way to spoil it AMC

and Glenn shouts in the preview WHAT IS HE DOING HERE so Merle is gonna live to :/

The whole "betraying Merle" thing might just be a ploy to get Merle inside the prison as an inside man for when the Governor assaults the prison. When you think about it, it doesn't make that much sense for the Governor to use Merle as a scapegoat when he had Daryl there to satisfy the bloodlust of the people. Unless of course he needs to use the excuse of there being a traitor as a reason for why his secure perimeter was breached.

I hope they don't go the "Merle is a mole" route. It would make no sense with how paranoid Rick is, and Glenn and Maggie can testify to how brutal Merle still is. Merle voiced his displeasure with Rick to Glenn at least once. Why would they let him in the prison? I don't want them to faff around for 8 eps waiting for Merle's inevitable betrayal when it's time for the Woodbury vs. Grimes Gang battle royale.

Because Daryl. and the preview kinda already hints that Merle is going to be there.

@MiniPato said:

@connerthekewlkid said:

@SomeDeliCook said:

Spoilers for the second half of this season

SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.

I like how the half season ended with us thinking Daryll is going to get killed and a few seconds later in the second half of the season preview they show him running around in daytime in a forest with his crossbow. Way to spoil it AMC

and Glenn shouts in the preview WHAT IS HE DOING HERE so Merle is gonna live to :/

The whole "betraying Merle" thing might just be a ploy to get Merle inside the prison as an inside man for when the Governor assaults the prison. When you think about it, it doesn't make that much sense for the Governor to use Merle as a scapegoat when he had Daryl there to satisfy the bloodlust of the people. Unless of course he needs to use the excuse of there being a traitor as a reason for why his secure perimeter was breached.

I think that might just be the route they take though. Because something similar happens in the comic.

STOP KILLING OFF MY FAVORITE BLACK CHARACTERS!!

@MiniPato said:

@connerthekewlkid said:

@SomeDeliCook said:

Spoilers for the second half of this season

SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.

I like how the half season ended with us thinking Daryll is going to get killed and a few seconds later in the second half of the season preview they show him running around in daytime in a forest with his crossbow. Way to spoil it AMC

and Glenn shouts in the preview WHAT IS HE DOING HERE so Merle is gonna live to :/

The whole "betraying Merle" thing might just be a ploy to get Merle inside the prison as an inside man for when the Governor assaults the prison. When you think about it, it doesn't make that much sense for the Governor to use Merle as a scapegoat when he had Daryl there to satisfy the bloodlust of the people. Unless of course he needs to use the excuse of there being a traitor as a reason for why his secure perimeter was breached.

I think the Governor has legitimate reasons to think Merle was in on the attack. Merle came back as the only survivor of thte team hunting Michonne, saying she was dead, and bringing with him a couple of "prisoners" who know the whereabouts of his brother. Later Michonne shows up with a group of others and tries to assassinate the Governor and make off with the prisoners. And one of the ones with her just so happens to be Merle's brother Daryl that he won't shut up about. If I'm the Governor, it's not hard to imagine Merle and Michonne came to some sort of deal, killed the rest of the team, found Daryl, and set this whole thing up, including bringing fake prisoners in to be on the inside when the time to strike came.

Maybe Merle will try and get back on the Governor's good side by turning, but I don't think this initial reaction to Merle is a being staged. I think it's real.

@Clonedzero said:

oh yeah, and i kinda hate michone. she's bitchy, annoying, stupid and always has the stupid pouty bitchy expression on her face.

This is pretty much the worst shit in this entire show. I can't stand her.

@LikeaSsur: Yeah you are right. I don't necessarily dislike the character, just like him less? If/when Axel dies, I probably wont feel as bad as I did when Oscar died. Oscar was just a totally reasonable person.

@Landon said:

@pyromagnestir said:

@TheHT said:

@Trainer_Red said:

Michonne is pissing me off. Why hasn't she told the group that both Andrea and Meryl are in Woodbury? It would save a lot of time and unnecessary drama.

Does she actually know they're the group Andrea was with before?

Supposedly Andrea told her everything about herself, which I assume would include detailed information on the group she was with before. At the very least the names Rick, Daryl (who you'd think she'd also remember from more recent discussions with Merle), Maggie, Glen, an old man named Herschel, Carol, a kid named Carl, etc... all being together in one group should ring a fucking bell, but no. So either she's a fucking idiot or a shitty listener, or something.

Are YOU a fucking idiot? Even if Andrea had gone into detail about her group, nobody describes their friends bodily features, they describe their characteristics.

She wouldn't say: "Oh yeah, Rick. Rick was about 6'0", wears a revolver all the time and has a growing beard."

She would say something like: "Rick use to be a cop, and I think that followed him into our group. He sort of became our leader and I think he deserved it. He generally called the shots well, I'd follow him anywhere."

Maybe Meral would describe Glenn as "the asian guy" but he's a racist. A normal person would describe their friend as funny, or outgoing.

And even if she did pick up small details, how could she possibly know that a group of random people are the exact same group her friend was in, especially considering they all got separated MONTHS ago and all could be dead or miles away by now.

edit: And lets also not forget that Michonne isn't the type of person that would hold onto unimportant details. She is more worried about surviving than remembering who was in Andreas group. She killed the two zombies that were with her (who were actually her boyfriend and best friend in the comic) without a second thought, so I think that tells you a lot about the type of person she is.

1.) Michone witnessed Meryl confront Glen and Maggie, asking about his brother. She was distant, but she watched the entire thing. Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Andrea tell Meryl about his brother in front of Michonne?

Why is Michone such a shit character? I haven't read the comics, but her character on the show is terrible. I feel like the writers of the show put no effort into her, thinking that just because she has a sword that everyone would automatically love her. In fact, almost all of the female characters on this show have been complete garbage, with Maggie and season 3 Carol being the only real exceptions. Are the writers of Walking Dead just completely incapable of writing female characters?

Anyone notice that the kid whose mother was bitten was named Ben? And he kind of looked/acted like him too.

@DeathByWaffle said:

with Maggie and season 3 Carol being the only real exceptions. Are the writers of Walking Dead just completely incapable of writing female characters?

you answered your own question.

All I know is if a zombie outbreak happens and another black guy joins my group I am running for the hills. But what if me running off on my own is what gets me killed.....shit.

@vikingdeath1: @vikingdeath1 said:

STOP KILLING OFF MY FAVORITE BLACK CHARACTERS!!

the show is only allowed one black male at a time

also oscar's official name is 2dawg in the memory of the original black male expendable

Pretty typical Walking Dead. Great aesthetic and tonal cues, relatively negligent character writing. Michonne, for someone whose comic iteration is so revered, has really stunk it up on this show. I have no idea why I'm supposed to like her. But that's been the case with a lot of the characters on the show.

God damnit just let her kill the govna already. And Andrea while she's at it!

Anyone watch the Talking Dead afterwards? I was really disappointed when Chris Hardwick started plugging the Activision Walking Dead game and then mentions some dumb Walking Dead iphone game and the facebook game but never says shit to promote the Telltale Walking Dead game. With the season being over and the game coming out on physical media in stores you'd think they'd be promoting the hell out of it.

@DeShawn2ks said:

All I know is if a zombie outbreak happens and another black guy joins my group I am running for the hills. But what if me running off on my own is what gets me killed.....shit.

have more lines than the other guy! its your only hope!

@Omega: Yeah, I noticed that during the breaks the always advertise the "other" Walking Dead games but not the Telltale one. Maybe they think the Telltale one doesn't need the promotion?

@DeathByWaffle said:

@Omega: Yeah, I noticed that during the breaks the always advertise the "other" Walking Dead games but not the Telltale one. Maybe they think the Telltale one doesn't need the promotion?

The Telltale game is not connected to the show. Neither financially nor canonically.

Stand back, Joffrey. Andrea is now my most hated fictional person, ever.

I hope the new people locked up in the prison by "the Kid" becomes a part of the group, they seem nice enough.

They were kinda winning me back at the beginning of this season, but now I feel like they're fucking up all over again, just in different ways.

Ugh, this series has so much potential but it just feels so dragged out and forced.
 
I think I'm going to wait a few years till its done and watch it all at once, so I can skip some shit.

I'm loving the series so far, everything is pretty much great. It's the only show I watch on TV now. I can't understand why so many people are hating it.

They were kinda winning me back at the beginning of this season, but now I feel like they're fucking up all over again, just in different ways.

@Breadfan said:

@Encephalon

They were kinda winning me back at the beginning of this season, but now I feel like they're fucking up all over again, just in different ways.

I totally agree. It's getting harder for me to really care about what's happening. Mostly because of the show's growing inconsistencies. Prime example, the prison is mentioned to have been surveyed multiple times. Assuring that the perimiter was secure, but hey. Let's throw that out the window and have a big ass hole in the back for these new characters to be introduced. Andrea's character drives me fucking insane. She just seems so poorly developed. She discovers a room full of heads and the Governer's zombified daughter, and you know what her thought process is? "Aww, Governer needs a hug!" Gah, sorry to rant. I just thought the show was steadily improving, but it's starting to show the same flaws of previous seasons.

Tyrese's group is the new "talies" (for you Lost fans out there). I'm actually liking this season quite a bit, but I understand the frustration from some people. Michonne needs some character development/motivation, and Andrea, my favorite character from the comics, has been turned into someone I find uninteresting...not even worth the "hate" she's getting. She just bores me.

Somebody on this thread mentioned that he hates Andrea more than he hates Joffrey from GoT, but Joffrey's interesting and worth the wrath he deservedly gets from fans.

@Breadfan said:

@stryker1121 That was me. I was more being sarcastic, but I just can't stand Andrea this season.

Really? I thought she was way worse in Season 2. At least in season 3 she's just being passively ignorant as opposed to proactively trying to get everyone killed in season 2. She pissed me off when she almost shot Daryl and pissed me off even more when she let Hershel's daughter try to kill herself.

Also, to be fair, Hershel kept a whole barn full of his zombie family and strangers thinking there would be a cure. So there is no reason for zombie daughter to freak her out. Plus she participated in a zombie experiment so she knows they are looking for a cure on their own, however futile it may be. So you connect zombie experiment with zombie daughter and it makes sense. Zombie fish tanks? Maybe. But it doesn't strike me as anything sadistic and we never knew what the fuck he really used them for in the first place. Personally, I think staged walker tournaments are more fucked up pass times than fish tanks of zombie heads.

Andrea is the least of my problems this season. In fact, I have very few problems with this season other than Michonne being a bitch because she has audience vision.

Pretty underwhelming episode in my opinion. I was stoked to see Cutty show up, but everything else was just kind of lame.

And man, Andrea and Carl need to go. Two of the most annoying characters I have ever seen in a TV show.

@LikeaSsur said:

I'm loving the series so far, everything is pretty much great. It's the only show I watch on TV now. I can't understand why so many people are hating it.

Probably because of the poor writing at the end of season 1 and whole season 2 and some of the characters aren't that great.

@Omega It happens sometimes, last episode he was talking about how he was going to talk about Michonne covered in zombie guts and after the ad, there was no talk of it at all. It's probably because they cut a lot of the show because of time restrictions, they only have 30 minutes air time so it's most likely happened but just not aired. Starting February, when the season continues it's going to be an hour so they'll have more time.

1) Stop calling Merle, Maryl. Maryl is a woman's name.

2) It's not Cutty from The Wire (It is, but) IT'S COACH FROM L4D2! .. When will they make a L4D knock off with the Walking Dead fiction?

The whole revolving door of black dudes is getting ridiculous. Thought it was an okay episode, but that preview spoiled so much stuff. And I highly prefer the prison arc in the comics.

@DeathByWaffle said:

Why is Michone such a shit character? I haven't read the comics, but her character on the show is terrible. I feel like the writers of the show put no effort into her, thinking that just because she has a sword that everyone would automatically love her. In fact, almost all of the female characters on this show have been complete garbage, with Maggie and season 3 Carol being the only real exceptions. Are the writers of Walking Dead just completely incapable of writing female characters?

I never felt she made much sense on the comic book page tbh. The whole package (strong female kenjitsu master) felt like a Tarantino Kill Bill ripoff. I thought Darabont did a good job with season one of the show of keeping Kirkman's nerd excesses in check and grounding the show in as much of a reality as he could (the worst episode of season one was Kirkman's completely pointless Mexican standoff one imho) but of course now he's out of the picture Kirkman's bringing all his 'Omg this would be so cool!!!' comic shlock to the show and unfortunately it's beginning to wear.

With comics it's easy to lose problems between the frames, but with television it's less easy. That you can have one episode of a show were everyone turns out to be crack shot ninjas one minute and then a few episodes later they apparently can't hit a barn door at 10 yards with fully automatic rifles is just inconsistent. Also contrary to Kirkman's belief Katana's aren't so sharp that they can cut through flesh and bone with abandon forever.