Wait, how is gangsta rap part of hip-hop again?

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I'm curious why people, in general- music, media, etc. will list gangsta rap under hip-hop.

while rap can fit into hip-hop,  not gangsta rap.  Hip hop = funk, rap, baggy pants (not dangling pants), graffiti, etc.
I dress sort of "hip hoppy" (lol) but not anything like a ghetto gangster. 

Jet Set Radio explains what hip hop is best imo.  Truly nails it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjGkHDTPHJg&feature=related

Linkin Park is more of a hip hop band than Snoop Dogg.  Much more.

This is where the connection between rap and hip hop is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtCZ3ZyT8P4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FtZdttWc_Y&feature=related

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lol wut

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Linkin Park is more hip-hop then Snoop Dogg? That statement alone makes me fail to take you seriously.

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Gangsta Rap is dope and so is Hip Hop.

Hip Hop is music that gives you  the feeling that makes you want dance and the beats are fly, and the chorus's are dope. I dress how I see myself, I don't care if people what people think of what I wear thats whack.

ummmm Linkin Park is a rock band. Snoop Dogg > Linkin Park in Hip Hop..... the only thing Linkin Park did that even relates to rap is when they made a joint-collab album with Jay Z that was overall okay.

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#5  Edited By SmugDarkLoser
Clean said:
"Gangsta Rap is dope and so is Hip Hop.

Hip Hop is music that gives you  the feeling that makes you want dance and the beats are fly, and the chorus's are dope. I dress how I see myself, I don't care if people what people think of what I wear thats whack.

ummmm Linkin Park is a rock band. Snoop Dogg > Linkin Park in Hip Hop..... the only thing Linkin Park did that even relates to rap is when they made a joint-collab album with Jay Z that was overall okay."

thats exactly it. 
hip hop is what you said basically. but this isn't that:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8inztO0Xx8

i say linkin park is more of a hip hop band because of their concerts especially.  Their old Hybrid Theory album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnDDLHxgCe4&feature=related

Hip hop really has got a scewed defintion over the years.  The "holy place" of hip hop is shibuya terminal, not the bronx
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SmugDarkLoser said:
"Clean said:
"Gangsta Rap is dope and so is Hip Hop.

Hip Hop is music that gives you  the feeling that makes you want dance and the beats are fly, and the chorus's are dope. I dress how I see myself, I don't care if people what people think of what I wear thats whack.

ummmm Linkin Park is a rock band. Snoop Dogg > Linkin Park in Hip Hop..... the only thing Linkin Park did that even relates to rap is when they made a joint-collab album with Jay Z that was overall okay."

thats exactly it. 
hip hop is what you said basically. but this isn't that:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8inztO0Xx8

i say linkin park is more of a hip hop band because of their concerts especially.  There old Hybrid Theory album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRmyPVqIyBQ"
Okay, that had some rap in it, not my style but yea I get what your saying.
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Clean said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"Clean said:
"Gangsta Rap is dope and so is Hip Hop.

Hip Hop is music that gives you  the feeling that makes you want dance and the beats are fly, and the chorus's are dope. I dress how I see myself, I don't care if people what people think of what I wear thats whack.

ummmm Linkin Park is a rock band. Snoop Dogg > Linkin Park in Hip Hop..... the only thing Linkin Park did that even relates to rap is when they made a joint-collab album with Jay Z that was overall okay."

thats exactly it. 
hip hop is what you said basically. but this isn't that:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8inztO0Xx8

i say linkin park is more of a hip hop band because of their concerts especially.  There old Hybrid Theory album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRmyPVqIyBQ"
Okay, that had some rap in it, not my style but yea I get what your saying."
i see what you're getting at, but hip hop is more of a style first and foremost.  It basically is a culture of, well, jet set really expresses it imo. 

rap and all that stuff is a spin on hip hop. 

anyway, my main point:  How is this, by either of our definitions, this part of the hip hop culture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFEoCOhRZQ
it makes no sense.

And for the record, the shirt of choice is a hoodie, not a tanktop.
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#9  Edited By Clean
SmugDarkLoser said:
"Clean said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"Clean said:
"Gangsta Rap is dope and so is Hip Hop.

Hip Hop is music that gives you  the feeling that makes you want dance and the beats are fly, and the chorus's are dope. I dress how I see myself, I don't care if people what people think of what I wear thats whack.

ummmm Linkin Park is a rock band. Snoop Dogg > Linkin Park in Hip Hop..... the only thing Linkin Park did that even relates to rap is when they made a joint-collab album with Jay Z that was overall okay."

thats exactly it. 
hip hop is what you said basically. but this isn't that:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8inztO0Xx8

i say linkin park is more of a hip hop band because of their concerts especially.  There old Hybrid Theory album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRmyPVqIyBQ"
Okay, that had some rap in it, not my style but yea I get what your saying."
i see what you're getting at, but hip hop is more of a style first and foremost.  It basically is a culture of, well, jet set really expresses it imo. 

rap and all that stuff is a spin on hip hop. 

anyway, my main point:  How is this, by either of our definitions, this part of the hip hop culture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFEoCOhRZQ
it makes no sense.

And for the record, the shirt of choice is a hoodie, not a tanktop."
50 Cent is whack I hate him,too. Lil wayne's okay and thats pretty much it for me and mainstream I just listen to underground and local music where I'm from.

and yea I dig hoodies from LRG

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Okay, first, Hip Hop is NOT music. Hip hop is a culture in which the music rap resides in.

Gangsta rap is an alternative to rap, but it is still very much rap. And when it is rap, it is still in the Hip hop catagory.

And Linking Park may have some resemblance to the Hop hop culture, but it is not Hip hop.

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#11  Edited By SmugDarkLoser
Clean said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"Clean said:
"Gangsta Rap is dope and so is Hip Hop.

Hip Hop is music that gives you  the feeling that makes you want dance and the beats are fly, and the chorus's are dope. I dress how I see myself, I don't care if people what people think of what I wear thats whack.

ummmm Linkin Park is a rock band. Snoop Dogg > Linkin Park in Hip Hop..... the only thing Linkin Park did that even relates to rap is when they made a joint-collab album with Jay Z that was overall okay."

thats exactly it. 
hip hop is what you said basically. but this isn't that:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8inztO0Xx8

i say linkin park is more of a hip hop band because of their concerts especially.  There old Hybrid Theory album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRmyPVqIyBQ"
Okay, that had some rap in it, not my style but yea I get what your saying."

okay.  i think im reaching my point if you get that now.  Maybe im just thinking of something, but, well, go back to jet set radio.  This is hip hop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ2zIm_7Tjk&feature=related



not this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho




Understand, Im not commenting on the quality of the music here, but the fact that two tyoes of cultures are getting mixed up.   I saw a video on youtube and they said the hip-hop culture usually sraps about sex, drugs, etc.- wtf?  Hip hop, if Id summarize it in one sentence is expression


Another hip hop music style in trance.
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#12  Edited By Clean
Fr0Br0 said:
"Okay, first, Hip Hop is NOT music. Hip hop is a culture in which the music rap resides in.

Gangsta rap is an alternative to rap, but it is still very much rap. And when it is rap, it is still in the Hip hop catagory.

And Linking Park may have some resemblance to the Hop hop culture, but it is not Hip hop."
yea your right boi