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Was there a cultural difference between the 90's and the 2000's? (Topic from 2009)

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#1  Edited By Wolverine

I don't think there was much of a cultural difference between this decade and the decade before. Maybe people have worried more about terrorism since 9/11 but overall I'd say culturally western society hasn't changed which is interesting because I think there were major differences between the 80's, 70's, 60's, 50's and 40's. What do you guys think, are there any major cultural difference between the 90's and the 00's.

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#2  Edited By DCFGS3

There are differences, for one the amount of communication is far greater, EVERYBODY has a mobile phone. I feel society has also become more relaxed/liberal in regards to women and gays, at least in the West.

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#3  Edited By Diamond

There's lots of differences, especially cultural.  From the early 90's when almost no people had access to the internet to now with 1.4 billion people with personal internet access.  The way people spend their time, the movie, music, and game industries...
 
Furthermore, much of the changes in the last 20 years have been more deep and significant than the superficial changes in some previous time periods.

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#4  Edited By JonathanMoore

I guess its because we have lived through these decades so recently that we don't think of the big changes.

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#5  Edited By penguindust

Communication and access to any bit of information at any time of day from any place in the world.  That wasn't the norm in the 90s.  Internet, cell phones, notebooks, handhelds, wifi, all these things reached mass acceptance over the last decade.
 
Also the war on terror took center stage for good or bad and that changed the way people think about security. 

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#6  Edited By dopeman

well look at the success of the wii.

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#7  Edited By MysteriousBob

Watch some TV from the 90s on YouTube. Massive differences.

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#8  Edited By damnboyadvance

Let's just say the 2000's is an improvement on the 90's, no offense.

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#9  Edited By HypoXenophobia
@damnboyadvance:
Depends, Television wise, a lot of channels were better in the 90's. Specifically Viacom owned channels.
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#10  Edited By adam_grif

Yes, in the 90's all of the 12 year olds didn't have microphones and were too busy playing mario to bother me with their shrill screeching about my mother.

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#11  Edited By natetodamax

The 90s:
 

 
2000s:
 

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#12  Edited By HandsomeDead
@damnboyadvance said:
" Let's just say the 2000's is an improvement on the 90's, no offense. "
Based on what? That's not me being a nostalgic fool, it's a genuine question. Besides technology, with the war on terror being a main issue for a full decade now, the 90s seemed like a better time for everyone.
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#13  Edited By ThePhantomnaut

Hardcore punk turned into a mockery.

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#14  Edited By DanielJW
@ThePhantomnaut said:
" Hardcore punk turned into a mockery. "
Hardcore punk is a mockery in and of itself.
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#15  Edited By adam_grif
@HandsomeDead said:

" @damnboyadvance said:

" Let's just say the 2000's is an improvement on the 90's, no offense. "
Based on what? That's not me being a nostalgic fool, it's a genuine question. Besides technology, with the war on terror being a main issue for a full decade now, the 90s seemed like a better time for everyone. "
 
The start of the 90's was mired with the tail end of the 80's, with its horrible fashion and music. The 90's weren't so bad by the middle, but as you said, tech sucked hard compared to 00's. I think any decade would struggle to compare with the 00's, the transformative effects of large-scale internet access were unprecedented. The whole of society is netwroked to a higher degree.
 
But most of all...
 
 
Wiki.
 
Fucking.
 
Pedia.
 
 
Research is so much easier now.
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#16  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
@DanielJW said:
" @ThePhantomnaut said:
" Hardcore punk turned into a mockery. "
Hardcore punk is a mockery in and of itself. "
I see what you did there.
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#17  Edited By fisher81

1993 - Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains 
 
2009 - Jonas Brothers, Lil Wayne,  Miley Cyrus
 

Yo, fuck the 00's.

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#19  Edited By ninjakiller

In the early 90's you had to go to something called a "library" and read something called "books" to get the information that you needed.  Today you pull out your mobile phone and get mad when it takes 30 seconds for Wikipedia/Google to load because you only get 2 bars where you're at.

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#20  Edited By JackiJinx

When I think of the 90s, I think of Full House, Family Matters, OJ Simpson murder trial, the Olsen Twins, Clinton, Baywatch, annoying AOL trial CDs, the SNES, and white-washed, high-rise jeans.
 
When I think of now, I think of iPods, widescreen TVs, fake tans, and the death of the Dreamcast.

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#21  Edited By MrKart
@Diamond said:
 "Furthermore, much of the changes in the last 20 years have been more deep and significant than the superficial changes in some previous time periods. "
How so? Because I would certainly argue that the changes of each time period represent what was important to those times in every degree. Obviously things may seem superficial to us now--but even the change to American Impressionalism could be considered superficial. That doesn't mean it wasn't a huge renaissance in our culture. 
 
The world seems much faster now than in the 90s, and the "technological tentativeness" seems to have evaporated completely. There has been a MAJOR shift into more extreme liberalism in most sections of the nation, it would seem, and there has been a much higher adaptation of the "let's point fingers and blame someone" approach, both in politics and in society.
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#22  Edited By MetalGearSunny

Since I was barely alive during the 90s, I really only think of the Grunge era. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Foo Fighters, etc. I don't know what else went down during the 90s, other than slow dial-up and some TV shows. 
  
Right now, music is crappy. (sure there is still some good music but good luck finding it) Technology has grown.
 
I'd rather have better music than better technology to be honest.

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#23  Edited By Gunner

I remember when i was a kid that if you had a computer you were considered a nerd. Now your a social outcast if you dont have one.

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#24  Edited By Hailinel
@adam_grif said:
"But most of all...   Wiki. Fucking.  Pedia.   Research is so much easier now. "
I truly hope you're not being serious.  Anyone that trusts WIkipedia for their research is asking for trouble.
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#25  Edited By adam_grif
@Hailinel said:
" @adam_grif said:
"But most of all...   Wiki. Fucking.  Pedia.   Research is so much easier now. "
I truly hope you're not being serious.  Anyone that trusts WIkipedia for their research is asking for trouble. "
 
If you aren't using Wikipedia during research, you're doing it wrong. Wikipedia gives concise summaries of often confusing or complex things, but most important of all, it collates research other people have already done. For instance, when I had to do research on social dominance for my Psych class, I spent hours searching for actual definitions of the involved terms. Trawling through journal articles is a nightmare because it can be hard to tell whether something will be helpful or not until you've already started reading it.
 
Then I went to Wiki, which directed me straight to a series of 100% related peer reviewed journal articles. It saved a crap-load of time wading through irrelevant materials by directing me straight to the good stuff.
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#26  Edited By AnthraX
@fisher81: Amen bro! AAAAmen!
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#27  Edited By Hailinel
@adam_grif said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @adam_grif said:
"But most of all...   Wiki. Fucking.  Pedia.   Research is so much easier now. "
I truly hope you're not being serious.  Anyone that trusts WIkipedia for their research is asking for trouble. "
  If you aren't using Wikipedia during research, you're doing it wrong. Wikipedia gives concise summaries of often confusing or complex things, but most important of all, it collates research other people have already done. For instance, when I had to do research on social dominance for my Psych class, I spent hours searching for actual definitions of the involved terms. Trawling through journal articles is a nightmare because it can be hard to tell whether something will be helpful or not until you've already started reading it.  Then I went to Wiki, which directed me straight to a series of 100% related peer reviewed journal articles. It saved a crap-load of time wading through irrelevant materials by directing me straight to the good stuff. "
And I can go right in and edit the article on social dominance to fuck it up.  If I'm subtle enough, it might not even be caught until quite some time has passed.  If you're depending on Wikipedia, you're an idiot.
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#28  Edited By adam_grif

Did you not pay attention?
 
I use it to find external references that they are citing. What are you going to do, break the URL? Whoopdy do, I'm no worse off than when I started looking.
 
You can't edit Science Journal articles.

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#29  Edited By Hailinel
@adam_grif said:
" Did you not pay attention?
 
I use it to find external references that they are citing. What are you going to do, break the URL? Whoopdy do, I'm no worse off than when I started looking.  You can't edit Science Journal articles. "
No, but you can edit out citations entirely.
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#30  Edited By adam_grif

And again, I'm no worse off than when I started. This idea that Wikipedia can't be a useful tool is utter rubbish.

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#31  Edited By CL60
@Hailinel said:
" @adam_grif said:
"But most of all...   Wiki. Fucking.  Pedia.   Research is so much easier now. "
I truly hope you're not being serious.  Anyone that trusts WIkipedia for their research is asking for trouble. "
People still like to hate on wikipedia? :|
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#32  Edited By Brunchies

I wasn't around in the 90's but I guess T.V. got worst in the 00s, technology became more advanced, and music got shot in the face by disney in the 00s. 

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#33  Edited By Crono
@CL60 said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @adam_grif said:
"But most of all...   Wiki. Fucking.  Pedia.   Research is so much easier now. "
I truly hope you're not being serious.  Anyone that trusts WIkipedia for their research is asking for trouble. "
People still like to hate on wikipedia? :| "
That is soooooooo 2000.
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#34  Edited By Trevahhh
@fisher81 said:
" 1993 - Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains  2009 - Jonas Brothers, Lil Wayne,  Miley Cyrus Yo, fuck the 00's. "
God damn it, this!
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#35  Edited By TheLawnWrangler
@natetodamax said:

" The 90s:
 

 
2000s:
 
"

/thread 
in summation, 1990's > Death by snu-snu > 2000's 
 
though, I'll admit ALOT of amazing stuff have come out of the 2000's but man... alot of bad things too lol
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#36  Edited By adam_grif
@fisher81 said:
" 1993 - Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains  2009 - Jonas Brothers, Lil Wayne,  Miley Cyrus Yo, fuck the 00's. "
 
 
You forgot Radiohead in the 1990's was awesome.
 
However, the 00's have Muse (except their first album, which wasn't that great anyway), Dream Theater brought out Octavarium, Breaking Benjamin etc.
 
Also, GUITAR HERO.
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#37  Edited By iam3green

yes, i think there was a big difference. the internet isn't how it is today. before not a lot of people had internet compared to today. 
 
more people were into rock type of music now they are into rap.

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#38  Edited By SeriousCat

It's funny how gaming was one of the only forms of entertainment that held up in the 2000's. Probably has something to do with it being a lot younger form than say film or music, both of which seem to be running dry of compelling ideas and originality. Music especially, well at least QOTSA was amazing during the 00's.  I just hope gaming doesn't go the same way before long. :/

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#39  Edited By thatfrood

adam dude is right.

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#40  Edited By mikeeegeee
@ThatFrood: Yes, adam_grif is right. Wikipedia can indeed be a useful tool for research if you use it to /find/ your sources. You obviously can't use the site as a source, you'd fail whatever you turned in.
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#41  Edited By TwoLines
@SeriousCat said:
"Probably has something to do with it being a lot younger form than say film or music, both of which seem to be running dry of compelling ideas and originality."
Like the theater that's more than 2000 years old? 
And music that's been around for God knows how long?
Dude. Stop talking bullshit.
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#42  Edited By adam_grif

Hollywood has been "running out of ideas" since world war 2. Originality doesn't exist, but you can get pretty close to it if you try hard enough. Big name companies, however, are looking for a return on their investments, so they try to cash in on "sure successes". These come in the form of popular licenses for adaptations and rehashings of old, proven concepts, or even remakes of old classics.

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#43  Edited By SeriousCat
@TwoLines said:
" @SeriousCat said:
"Probably has something to do with it being a lot younger form than say film or music, both of which seem to be running dry of compelling ideas and originality."
Like the theater that's more than 2000 years old?  And music that's been around for God knows how long?Dude. Stop talking bullshit. "
I thought this thread was comparing 90's to 00's only. By "held up" I only mean differences between how things were in the 90's and what they're like now. Sheesh.
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#44  Edited By crunchUK

I don't know about the USA, but this decade has basically been about the government restricting all the freedoms we previously had last decade.

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#45  Edited By Siris
@Hailinel: If you're not using wikipedia, YOU are the idiot. It is probably the best way to get a quick idea of what any subject is about. Yes, editing can be a problem, but that is generally not a problem.
 
You don't rely on wikipedia's information, you use it as a guide to other really useful information. Wikipedia is a gateway, not a stopping point.
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#46  Edited By Siris
@Hailinel: 
 If you're not using wikipedia, YOU are the idiot. It is probably the best way to get a quick idea of what any subject is about. Yes, editing can be a problem, but it generally is not.
 
You don't rely on wikipedia's information, you use it as a guide to other really useful information. Wikipedia is a gateway, not a stopping point.
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#47  Edited By penguindust
@nofx4208 said:
/thread in summation, 1990's > Death by snu-snu > 2000's  though, I'll admit ALOT of amazing stuff have come out of the 2000's but man... alot of bad things too lol "
You place the 90's above death by snu-snu?  What are you, gay?!
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#48  Edited By Hailinel
@Siris: I use Wikipedia.  I never said that there was anything wrong with that.  But depending on it as your main source of research on a subject is foolish.
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#49  Edited By TwoOneFive

Absolutely!!! 
9/11/2001 made the 2000's a much different decade culturally for everyone

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#50  Edited By Suicrat

Well let me put it this way. There's a cultural difference between Autumn 2009 and Spring 2009, that's the primary cultural difference between this decade and last, how quickly things change.