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#1 Posted by Jeust (11739 posts) -

From all the virtues what do you consider to be the most important one?


For me it is temperance. All virtues are good in a moderate amount. When excess comes into play, all is for naught. 
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#2 Posted by Centimani (563 posts) -

Honesty, but temperance seems equally as important.

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#3 Posted by Scooper (7920 posts) -

Honesty for me. For instance I could never do a job where I'm knocking on people's door pushing stuff on old women ect or phoning people up trying to sell people things they don't want. It's not me. I don't know how people can do that.

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#4 Posted by deactivated-59a31562f0e29 (1212 posts) -

Girth.

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#5 Edited by npeterson08 (512 posts) -

Charity. Society is too impersonal and concerned with individuality nowadays.

So much could be solved if we all contributed.

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#6 Posted by valrog (3741 posts) -

Honor.

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#7 Posted by Animasta (14948 posts) -

give me a list of virtues please, I can't tell what is a virtue and what isn't :#

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#8 Posted by Jeust (11739 posts) -
@Laketown said:

" give me a list of virtues please, I can't tell what is a virtue and what isn't :# "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue

Some exemple of them are:

ability
acceptance
altruism
assertiveness
attention, focus
autonomy
awareness
balance
benevolence
candor
caring
caution
charity
chastity
citizenship
cleanliness
commitment
compassion
confidence
conscientiousness
consideration
contentment
cooperativeness
courage
courteousness
creativity
curiosity
dependability
detachment
determination
diligence
discernment
ethical egoism
empathy
encouragement
endurance
enthusiasm
equanimity
fairness
faithfulness, fidelity
flexibility
foresight
forgiveness
fortitude
friendliness
generosity
gentleness
goodness
gratitude, appreciation
helpfulness
honesty
honor
hopefulness
hospitality
humility
humor
impartiality
independence
individualism
industriousness
integrity
intuition
inventiveness
justice
kindness
knowledge
logic
lovingness
loyalty
meekness
mercy
mindfulness
moderation
modesty
morality
nonviolence
nurturing
obedience
openness
optimism
order
patience
peacefulness
perseverance
philomathy
piety
potential
poverty
prudence
purity
purposefulness
reason
readiness
remembrance
resilience
respectfulness
responsibility
restraint, self control
reverence
salubrity
self-awareness
self-confidence
self-discipline
self-reliance
self-respect
sensitivity
service
sharing
sincerity
spirituality
stability
strength
sympathy
tactfulness
temperance
tenacity
thankfulness
thoughtfulness
trustworthiness
truthfulness
understanding
unity
vigilance
wisdom
wit
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#9 Posted by Lemmycaution217 (1807 posts) -

Sincerity.

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#10 Posted by FourWude (2274 posts) -

The virtue of being a double hard bastard like myself.

Double hard.

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#11 Posted by nintendoeats (6222 posts) -

Peacefulness looks good. I'll take that one.

Seriously, people need to chill the fuck out...

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#12 Posted by crusader8463 (14796 posts) -

Honesty and manners. I will never understand why people find it so dam hard to just say what they are thinking and tell the dam truth. 


As for manners, I'm not talking about being an uptight dip shit about social protocols but it amazes me how so many people find it hard to just be polite in every day conversations, saying thanks, excuse me. etc.
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#13 Edited by PrivateIronTFU (3858 posts) -

Honesty and patience.


Serious about that patience one. That's essential.
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#14 Posted by Jeust (11739 posts) -
@FourWude said:
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The virtue of being a double hard bastard like myself.

Double hard.

"
Triple hard is better though... :p


@nintendoeats said:
" Peacefulness looks good. I'll take that one.Seriously, people need to chill the fuck out... "
Yeah, that's why temperance rules. :p
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#15 Posted by Patman99 (1650 posts) -

Respectfulness. This means respect for your fellow human beings. This goes above and beyond not being a total dick to someones face. For example, when you see a free sample tray, just take one. Another thing that pisses me off is in clothings stores. People dig like mad men trying to find the size they want and once they obtain it, they leave a wake of mess. I understand that the size might be at the bottom of the pile, but you do not need to claw your way through it and then not clean up your mess.


Respect entails thinking about other humans and realizing that you should not only respect them but also the areas that they might use.
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#16 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4311 posts) -

 

i would say honor because one of my ancestors was a samurai.  a catholic one too

@drag
said:

" Girth. "

that made me laugh (im not exaggerating)
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#17 Posted by guiseppe (2843 posts) -

Honesty.

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#18 Posted by CptChiken (2057 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @Laketown said:

" give me a list of virtues please, I can't tell what is a virtue and what isn't :# "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue

Some exemple of them are:

ability
acceptance
altruism
assertiveness
attention, focus
autonomy
awareness
balance
benevolence
candor
caring
caution
charity
chastity
citizenship
cleanliness
commitment
compassion
confidence
conscientiousness
consideration
contentment
cooperativeness
courage
courteousness
creativity
curiosity
dependability
detachment
determination
diligence
discernment
ethical egoism
empathy
encouragement
endurance
enthusiasm
equanimity
fairness
faithfulness, fidelity
flexibility
foresight
forgiveness
fortitude
friendliness
generosity
gentleness
goodness
gratitude, appreciation
helpfulness
honesty
honor
hopefulness
hospitality
humility
humor
impartiality
independence
individualism
industriousness
integrity
intuition
inventiveness
justice
kindness
knowledge
logic
lovingness
loyalty
meekness
mercy
mindfulness
moderation
modesty
morality
nonviolence
nurturing
obedience
openness
optimism
order
patience
peacefulness
perseverance
philomathy
piety
potential
poverty
prudence
purity
purposefulness
reason
readiness
remembrance
resilience
respectfulness
responsibility
restraint, self control
reverence
salubrity
self-awareness
self-confidence
self-discipline
self-reliance
self-respect
sensitivity
service
sharing
sincerity
spirituality
stability
strength
sympathy
tactfulness
temperance
tenacity
thankfulness
thoughtfulness
trustworthiness
truthfulness
understanding
unity
vigilance
wisdom
wit
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I would have thought you meant the 7 virtues which go with the 7 sins. 
so:
Chasity 
Temporance
charity 
diligence 
patience 
kindness 
humility
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#19 Posted by nintendoeats (6222 posts) -
@Jeust said:
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@nintendoeats said:
" Peacefulness looks good. I'll take that one.Seriously, people need to chill the fuck out... "
Yeah, that's why temperance rules. :p
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No no, I'm fine with people indulging themselves. Just as long as they do their best to avoid harming others.
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#20 Posted by craigbo180 (1763 posts) -

From your list I am going with ability for the men and flexibility for the ladies.

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#21 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6116 posts) -

  

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#22 Posted by TehFlan (1954 posts) -

You've sold me on temperance.

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#23 Posted by JasonR86 (10244 posts) -

Honesty.  If you can't be honest with yourself and others than you can't do anything else.

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#24 Posted by FourWude (2274 posts) -
@JasonR86 said:
" Honesty.  If you can't be honest with yourself and others than you can't do anything else. "
Tell that to politicians.... hoho
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#25 Posted by Robot_Sneakers (419 posts) -

Detachment, like being peaceful having a cool head is important but being objective is nice

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#26 Posted by sparklykiss (2042 posts) -
@CptChiken: That's what I thought as well.

From that huge list, I value sincerity, compassion, and empathy. Which are all key aspects to Kindness.
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#27 Posted by HandsomeDead (11853 posts) -

Wit. Being hilarious has got me through so many things.

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#28 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

The sword of virtue.

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#29 Posted by mnzy (3033 posts) -

I try to take everybody seriously and never run down other people.

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#30 Posted by gamefreak9 (2877 posts) -

Balance, anything to the extreme makes the world too reliant on luck.  + it includes most things. 

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#31 Posted by ShadowKing7 (748 posts) -

I'm pretty big on honesty.
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#32 Posted by theguy (828 posts) -
@npeterson08 said:
" Charity. Society is too impersonal and concerned with individuality nowadays.So much could be solved if we all contributed. "
Have you read any of Ayn Rands books? You sound exactly like the "Villains"

For me its a toss up between self-respect, logic and self-control. Probably others too but I couldn't be bothered to read the full list.
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#33 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5924 posts) -

Justice or patience

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#34 Posted by dbz1995 (4962 posts) -
@Axxol said:
" The sword of virtue. "
The shield of justice.
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#35 Edited by FourWude (2274 posts) -
@theguy said:

" @npeterson08 said:

" Charity. Society is too impersonal and concerned with individuality nowadays.So much could be solved if we all contributed. "
Have you read any of Ayn Rands books? You sound exactly like the "Villains"

DON'T READ ANY AYN RAND BOOKS. 

Her "objectivism" is pure bullshit. She's a proto-neo-con.

If we all did as Ayn suggested, we'd live in a dog eat dog society which devours itself.... oh wait, we already do....

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#36 Posted by theguy (828 posts) -
@FourWude said:
" @theguy said:

" @npeterson08 said:

" Charity. Society is too impersonal and concerned with individuality nowadays.So much could be solved if we all contributed. "
Have you read any of Ayn Rands books? You sound exactly like the "Villains"

DON'T READ ANY AYN RAND BOOKS. 

Her "objectivism" is pure bullshit. She's a proto-neo-con.

If we all did as Ayn suggested, we'd live in a dog eat dog society which devours itself.... oh wait, we already do....

"
Oh no I disagree with her on many points, I just find the whole philosophy interesting. I just thought it was funny that what he said could almost word for word be from one of her books.
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#37 Posted by Famov (760 posts) -
@FourWude said:
" @theguy said:

" @npeterson08 said:

" Charity. Society is too impersonal and concerned with individuality nowadays.So much could be solved if we all contributed. "
Have you read any of Ayn Rands books? You sound exactly like the "Villains"

DON'T READ ANY AYN RAND BOOKS. 

Her "objectivism" is pure bullshit. She's a proto-neo-con.

If we all did as Ayn suggested, we'd live in a dog eat dog society which devours itself.... oh wait, we already do....

"
And if we all lived as you do we'd be grumpy leftists/pessimists... Not that you're wrong about Ayn Rand.

There is a middle ground between Rand and FourWude. You will find non crazy people there, which is why my answer to the OP is moderation.
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#38 Edited by Fajita_Jim (1517 posts) -
@CptChiken said:

I would have thought you meant the 7 virtues which go with the 7 sins. 

If there are only 7 sins I need to put some patents out on some shit.

As for the topic: Dependability. If I can't count on you, nothing else fucking matters.
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#39 Posted by Cameron (1053 posts) -

Sophia.

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#40 Posted by npeterson08 (512 posts) -
@theguy:  No, I haven't read any of her work. Quickly looking her up - I probably wouldn't agree with her philosophy for our future. I'm much more aligned with Marx, in that I think capitalism had its place in society at one point in time. However I believe the state of our modern global economy is telling us that capitalist society is becoming more detrimental than productive, and needs to be replaced by a more modern political system which promotes less "me" and more "we" type of mentality; especially in the United States. I'm kind of a socialist sympathizer, but I see the positives and negatives of both socialist and capitalist economies.
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#41 Posted by FourWude (2274 posts) -
@Famov said:
" @FourWude said:
" @theguy said:

" @npeterson08 said:

" Charity. Society is too impersonal and concerned with individuality nowadays.So much could be solved if we all contributed. "
Have you read any of Ayn Rands books? You sound exactly like the "Villains"

DON'T READ ANY AYN RAND BOOKS. 

Her "objectivism" is pure bullshit. She's a proto-neo-con.

If we all did as Ayn suggested, we'd live in a dog eat dog society which devours itself.... oh wait, we already do....

"
And if we all lived as you do we'd be grumpy leftists/pessimists... Not that you're wrong about Ayn Rand.

There is a middle ground between Rand and FourWude. You will find non crazy people there, which is why my answer to the OP is moderation. "

LOL... I'm anything but a leftist. Especially on economic matters. 

I took down the Soviet Union, singlehandedly btw. But that's a separate story.


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#42 Posted by npeterson08 (512 posts) -
@theguy said:
"Oh no I disagree with her on many points, I just find the whole philosophy interesting. I just thought it was funny that what he said could almost word for word be from one of her books. "
Looking at the time period she was alive, she probably experienced the individualist mentality that came with capitalism in the early 1900's, and like a lot American philosophers, believed it was where society should go.

Anyway, gotta love Sociology.
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#43 Posted by jelekeloy (469 posts) -

Self-awareness and wit.  I need to learn to become less serious but not a douchebag.

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#44 Edited by npeterson08 (512 posts) -
@FourWude said:

"I took down the Soviet Union, singlehandedly btw. But that's a separate story."

I once wrestled a kodiak bear with nothing but a kumquat. Quite a weekend that was.

On a separate note, I'm pretty liberal, but most of my friends are conservative! I like to think of it as a game, subliminally converting them.
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#45 Posted by Carlos1408 (1635 posts) -

Empathy.

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#46 Posted by Example1013 (4854 posts) -

Realness. I can't stand posers. I probably dislike posers more than anything else in the world.


To separate this from other virtues and vices, though, I don't mean honesty, fidelity, or sincerity. Lies have their places, or they wouldn't exist, and I honestly don't think a world without lies would be a very nice place to live. Absolute truth doesn't exist, either, so trying to get as close as possible isn't necessarily a noble goal. And faking sincerity has its place as well. Speaking out of personal experience, I sometimes have to pretend to feel sorry or sad about something, because a 'normal' person would be, and so it's expected of me.

However, pretending to be someone you're not? That just pisses me off to no end.

Obviously politics are a different story, since I do somewhat subscribe to Machiavelli's doctrine.
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#47 Posted by theguy (828 posts) -
@npeterson08: Objectivism isn't my "side" I never said I agree with it I just find it interesting to think about. I can see your point about moving us all forward but I hope individuals aren't lost in the process.
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#48 Edited by npeterson08 (512 posts) -
@example1013: 
 Like this?
 Like this?
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#49 Posted by Example1013 (4854 posts) -
@npeterson08: The part where they're "keepin' it real" or the part where they're doing it wrong?
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#50 Edited by FourWude (2274 posts) -
@npeterson08 said:

" @FourWude said:

"I took down the Soviet Union, singlehandedly btw. But that's a separate story."

I once wrestled a kodiak bear with nothing but a kumquat. Quite a weekend that was. "

Reagan contacted me back in '84 personally to say shit was happening in Afghan. I wasn't interested initially, but he said there was a future post in washington in it for me. So they teamed me up with a guy called Timmy Laden (no idea what happened to him), and fucked shit up. 

It was me doing the fucking of the shit up though. Behind enemy lines, survival on only what I found on field. I organised whole groups of farmers into deadly teams, they learned their stuff from me... me alone.

When I came back though in '89, with the SU lying in tatters, they didn't want to know me. They'd already teamed up and gotten into bed with the Russians on trade deals, and associating with me was deemed shameful, especially if Gorbhachev found out about it. They denied knowledge of me. Not even a handshake.

I was fucking betrayed then. Ever since I have plotted my vengeance. 

True story.