@bmccann42 said:
@bisonhero: Simmons gets a bit "religious-y" after that. I like his writing but there is something odd feeling about some of it.
I loved Ilium and Olympos, but they kind of lose the plot towards the end, and it makes a whole bunch of logic jumps to get to it's ending (which is still a bit of mess in my memory).
I also remember parts of Endymion and Rise of Endymion just seeming random as fuck. Like there's a lengthy section where the titular character is kayaking around for a few chapters and gets a kidney stone and we get quite a few pages about the excruciating pain, and I remember the passage seeming like a baffling inclusion for any reason other than "OK, I guess Simmons had a kidney stone sometime shortly before writing this book."
But yeah, "religious-y" is maybe the reason. I know there were a zillion other factions at play in the novels, but my overall takeaway from Endymion/Rise of Endymion is pretty much that the Catholic Church are the bad guys because organized religion is The Man, while Aenea is great and magical because she represents personal spirituality or whatever the fuck. The overall implications just felt kinda preachy, not unlike some of my problems with His Dark Materials. Maybe I personally have a hard time caring about this kind of conflict because both organized religion and self-guided spirituality do nothing for me.
And then at the end, it turns out humans can just tap their brains into string theory and teleport to anywhere in the universe if they really want, or something; it's not that I need everything to be hard sci-fi, but if something is magic just call it magic, don't try to justify it. Again, I'll mention that the two books were still very good reads, but it felt like a weird use of Simmons' past work to take the more or less fully resolved ending of Fall of Hyperion (which was maybe a little too neat) and then say "but actually" and proceed to bring up a bunch of new shit and bring back the Shrike and a handful of characters from the first two books.
I have strong opinions on the topic of these books.
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