When you die what do you think happens to you? I think you can believe whatever you want. Be reincarnated as a rat, alien, horse, ect. Maybe you spirit goes into another human and that was just the beginning. Maybe it is just darkness and nothing happens or its a constant dream. Maybe you go to heaven or hell, but what do you think personally happens when you die? (Besides physically being not alive...) I have just been thinking about it lately and I am not really scared to die, but what I am scared of is what happens after death. Nothing is certain.
When you die...
" When you die what do you think happens to you? I think you can believe whatever you want. Be reincarnated as a rat, alien, horse, ect. Maybe you spirit goes into another human and that was just the beginning. Maybe it is just darkness and nothing happens or its a constant dream. Maybe you go to heaven or hell, but what do you think personally happens when you die? (Besides physically being not alive...) I have just been thinking about it lately and I am not really scared to die, but what I am scared of is what happens after death. Nothing is certain. "Well being catholic origin i guess i believe that we go to heaven or hell.
I will tell you when i get there.
There are two destinations after death: Heaven, where God is, and Hell, where God is not.
If you want to go to Heaven, you must be blameless before God. With faith in Jesus Christ alone, righteousness is not attainable. Just faith; not works, not anyone else's faith, but YOUR faith.
If you reject the Savior, Jesus Christ, there's only one destination left for you, and that's Hell, where the unrighteous go.
Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man comes to the Father except by Me."
I belive there is no reincarnation, you will be kept somewhere. Even religious ppl before you are allowed in heaven, you will be judged and serve your time there. I belive in heaven, you don't have your memories anymore, your at peace, it's not logical. Everyone is your brother and sister there in spirt. I belive if you were murdered uncleanly, you get hostile, that's why you only see ghost around of murdered victims. If there was a god, he doesn't want to deal with any hostile spirits like that, so they are left on earth.
I am aware there probally aren't too many christians around here on a site that has a word bomb in it, however that's my belif anyways.
" Zen Buddhism has the right idea. Respawning in 10...9 "I was waiting for this response. I am surprised it took 20 comments to get it.
i wonder about this ,and it makes me depressed. just know that theres no real answer we will never know if there is a heaven,id like to think there is. but by the time we know it will be to late. whatever happens its the end. its hard to imagine that when my mother dies she will simply rot, ive actually cried thinking about it. so live your life to the fullest its the only one you have
" @MauveForest: Too few people have heard of the Bardo, I suppose. A shame, I think it's one of the more intriguing and poetic takes on the afterlife. "Well actually, that wasn't what I was talking about. Though it is as you say it is, I will have to read up on it.
The general concept of respawning, a very video game-esque way of looking at the afterlife. I was expecting some to mention that idea, because we are on a video game website.
When I die the world will carry on as if i never existed, my family will remember me sure, but even they will find it hard to remember me in their everyday lives as time passes. My corpse will slowly decay away in a coffin *unless of course i turn to ash*, and all my belongings will be given to others, whom couldn't possibly appreciate them as fully as I had. But, I'll be dead so its only fair
Fuck you guys reading this thread made me feel like shit...FUCK I am gonna go smoke and bring on destiny a little bit faster.
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so your telling me this plays? Sounds good to me. "
Yea I guess that wouldn't be to bad.
I think the idea of all of us, with consciousness and higher levels of thought, with creation and contemplation and abstraction, just going poof when our mortal whatevers break down is ludicrous. I don't know what the answer is, but I find it hard to believe that there can be a me and a you and an everybody else with so wildly divergent opinions uniting under so many layers of invention and abstraction past our biological imperatives for us to be just a biological construct that goes with our bodies. And if we're more than that, then certainly we must go somewhere. Nothing comes from absolutely nothing. So we'll feed back into wherever that spark came from.
But yes, thinking about this bums me out, too. I don't know how the atheist set do it. How can you be comfortable believing that you will some day cease to exist? It gives me anxiety attacks to think too seriously about.
There's also an alternate-history novel by sf writer Kim Stanley Robinson that uses the Bardo idea as it has "respawning" characters, A Thousand Years of Rice and Salt.
I believe in this too.The eternal wheel of life and death broken by the dharma. :p" @owl_of_minerva said:
Well actually, that wasn't what I was talking about. Though it is as you say it is, I will have to read up on it. The general concept of respawning, a very video game-esque way of looking at the afterlife. I was expecting some to mention that idea, because we are on a video game website. "" @MauveForest: Too few people have heard of the Bardo, I suppose. A shame, I think it's one of the more intriguing and poetic takes on the afterlife. "
Life seems to have a purpose, and with that in mind, the theory of reincarnation taught by Buddhism and Jainism seems the most logical, although mundane logic fares little in matters that outlive human life.
I'm a heaven and hell guy myself. It is what makes sense to me. If there was no heaven and hell, whats the point of being moral?
When you die, it won't matter what happens because you'll be dead. Therefore, you won't be able to think about it, feel it, or anything. It's better to focus on the life ahead of you rather than what happens when it's over.
" I'm a heaven and hell guy myself. It is what makes sense to me. If there was no heaven and hell, whats the point of being moral? "this is exactly what's wrong with religion. You're basically saying that the only reason people aren't out in the streets right now killing each other is because they want to go to heaven and not hell. But if there was no hell then they would do whatever they want even if it hurts other people. If you actually think like this you are a horrible person. I'm a good person because I want to be a good person. I don't think it's right to hurt another person. I don't just try to be good out of fear of eternal damnation. That's fucking bullshit.
" @Wipeout said:This big"Whenever someone asks me this, I ask "What did it feel like before you were born?" Non existence is impossible to fathom. "That's cause it doesn't exist. Also, heaven and hell logically make no sense. Seriously, how big would that place be? "
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" @Wipeout said:How is anything after death defined by logic? How is saying there's nothingness after death any more logical than saying there's a Heaven or a Hell? There's no proof, no scientific evidence whatsoever, therefore there is no "logic" to be had, here."Whenever someone asks me this, I ask "What did it feel like before you were born?" Non existence is impossible to fathom. "That's cause it doesn't exist. Also, heaven and hell logically make no sense. Seriously, how big would that place be? "
" @Shirogane said:" @Wipeout said:How is anything after death defined by logic? How is saying there's nothingness after death any more logical than saying there's a Heaven or a Hell? There's no proof, no scientific evidence whatsoever, therefore there is no "logic" to be had, here. ""Whenever someone asks me this, I ask "What did it feel like before you were born?" Non existence is impossible to fathom. "That's cause it doesn't exist. Also, heaven and hell logically make no sense. Seriously, how big would that place be? "
Logically, nothingness after death also makes little sense, as you exist already, for you to just disappear makes no sense. Also, there's the fact that nothing every disappears, mass, energy, it all just changes form, but there's a constant amount of it in the universe, i'd assume that what i shall refer to as 'life force' or spirit or soul or whatever you want to call it, is the same.
Are you saying that you (presumably) only behave morally because of some reward or punishment that will ultimately affect you? Think about how moral that sort of idea is. What about the fact that you're a living thing who can feel happiness and pain, understanding that your fellow Earthlings can as well, and seeing value in life itself?" I'm a heaven and hell guy myself. It is what makes sense to me. If there was no heaven and hell, whats the point of being moral? "
Anyway. No, no one knows with 100% certainty what happens after death. All evidence points to nothing though. Look, we've evolved to the point of being conscious, complex beings who are fully aware of their own deaths, and can have conversations like this. So, we've come up with these coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that our lives are temporary. Yeah, the idea that when we die, or our loved ones die, we're gone forever, can suck. But, we did evolve, just like every other species. And there's not one shred of evidence that should make us believe that who we are - our identities, our memories - must also exist somewhere outside of the brain. It's very, very likely that when our brains die, that's it. It can be hard to cope with, sure.
" @arab_prince said:That is not what i meant at all. You need to relax a bit scabby :P I don't think this is the thread fro the topic so I wont get into it. but basically if you were working for a douche bag MNC and you had a chance to take money from them that could help your baby daughter for surgery and there was no way of you getting caught, why not do it? Again this is just an example of the top of my head, think of it what you will. But this isn't the place to argue the moral structure of the human being. Nice to see your passion tho ;)" I'm a heaven and hell guy myself. It is what makes sense to me. If there was no heaven and hell, whats the point of being moral? "this is exactly what's wrong with religion. You're basically saying that the only reason people aren't out in the streets right now killing each other is because they want to go to heaven and not hell. But if there was no hell then they would do whatever they want even if it hurts other people. If you actually think like this you are a horrible person. I'm a good person because I want to be a good person. I don't think it's right to hurt another person. I don't just try to be good out of fear of eternal damnation. That's fucking bullshit. "
" @Shirogane said:Because saying "I don't know" or "Probably nothing" sounds less retarded than saying "Your magical spirit-ghost wanders to a fluffy place where people with glued on wings consume philadelphia cream cheese." Therefore, these answers are more logical. Your brain and therefore your personality decomposes and returns to whence it came. Oddly enough, the most logical explanation is found in FF7 or Avatar; your energy was "borrowed" and comes back to the soil to provide new life. What this means for you as a consciousness is absolutely nothing - you are gone baby gone." @Wipeout said:How is anything after death defined by logic? How is saying there's nothingness after death any more logical than saying there's a Heaven or a Hell? There's no proof, no scientific evidence whatsoever, therefore there is no "logic" to be had, here. ""Whenever someone asks me this, I ask "What did it feel like before you were born?" Non existence is impossible to fathom. "That's cause it doesn't exist. Also, heaven and hell logically make no sense. Seriously, how big would that place be? "
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