Which Bond movies hold up in 2016?

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Hey gang,

So, I sing in an adult choir. One of the songs we're doing is a Bond medley (listen to an amazing cover of it here), and it's made me sort of nostalgic for watching some James Bond movies. Now, growing up in the UK means I've likely seen them all on British TV at some point, but outside of the ones I grew up with (Brosnan), I can't really remember any of them.

So I guess this is my question to you. Which Bond films should I watch? I'm already planning on rewatching Goldeneye, as that was one of my favourite movies growing up (I still own it on VHS), but I'm not sure about what else is really worth going back to.

Cheers friends!

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I've only seen the Brosnan and Craig movies and the only ones I rewatch occasionally are the first 3 Craig ones and Goldeneye(mostly nostalgia). I never got into the older ones because they always looked way too corny

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#3  Edited By MalibuProfen

I'm not the correct person to give you a 'good' answer to this question since I enjoy all of the Bond movies; in essence I'd basically tell you to watch them all (even if you won't enjoy each and every one of them like I do). But I'm guessing people will mostly recommend, in this particular order, these following ones:

Casino Royale, Goldfinger, GoldenEye, From Russia With Love and as a wild card Moonraker.

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That medley went deep on Roger Moore era songs yet somehow missed the third pinnacle of Bond themes that is Carly Simon's "Nobody Does It Better". The Hell? Roger Moore's gave us nothing but that song and the medley from "Live And Let Die". And then they go straight from Moore to "Skyfall". Oh, I have some beef with this adult choir.

Anyway, Craig's grittier modern Bond has fostered an appreciation for the two films of Timothy Dalton's Bond that also used grit (and Dalton's irresistible foxy smile) with the hope to better define Bond's character as more than just one liners and gadgets while using Ian Fleming's original source material as a stronger inspiration.

That renewed interest though has also brought forth criticism of Brosnan's Bond as a low point of max saturation of gadgets and one liners but in this critics opinion Pierce Brosnan is an unbeatable ace at nailing cheesy one liners. Which is to say if you want more of him my best suggestion is 2005's The Matador where he plays an incredibly dirty and unrefined hitman as one of Brosnan's many post Bond characters meant to shatter the chance of him being typecast in suave superspy roles. See also: The Tailor of Panama, The November Man, etc. All his work post Bond has been an effort to subvert his image of Bond. Yes, even Mamia Mia.

George Lazenby's On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a contentious entry with some seeing it as an elevation in quality and drama compared to Connery's films while other consider it dull.

The Sean Connery films, classic Bond, will eternally be regarded as archetypical spy fiction and because of that can feel unoriginal if coming into it anew. That said Goldfinger is regarded as the height of Connery's Bond and arguably of Bond films. It is seen as the point when the franchise comes to understand itself and establish its tropes such as proper grandiose villain and impressively dangerous, topical, and captivating scheme of there's. Also a camera that can at times become fixated on Connery's bare legs.

Personally I endeavor a liking toward From Russia With Love and Thunderball as the former shows an interesting different direction the franchise could have gone down and the latter because the film won me $80 and I think Claudine Auger is the prettiest Bond girl of the Connery era.

Or you can throw that all out and watch the 50 year anniversary documentary Everything Or Nothing which will let you bask in and understand unashamed Bond nostalgia more than the films themselves would.

That's right, I was a Bond scholar the entire time. Come at me, I've the knowlege of England's greatest "blunt instrument".

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Rewatching Casino Royale last year finally made me realize that I don't even like Bond. That's how good the movie is in my eyes.

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Depends on what you want out of Bond, but I find that each era (actor) has at least one stand-out film:

  • Goldfinger

Best of the Sean Connery films, though they're all pretty decent. This is arguably the best Bond film.

  • Live and Let Die

Bets of the Roger Moore films. Great soundtrack, great Bond girl (Jayne Seymore, a.k.a. Dr. Quinn), unique villain, and just a little bit of blaxploitation.

  • Goldeneye

First and best of the Pierce Brosnan films. Claimed to have resuscitated the franchise. One of the better plots and villains in the series. Great supporting cast: Sean Bean, Famke Janssen, and Alan Cumming. But, hey, you knew that. Like you said, you already plan on rewatching this one.

  • Casino Royale

First and best of the Daniel Craig movies. In a lot of ways, similar to Goldeneye in what it did for the series: modernized it, resuscitated interest, and set up a bunch of movies that didn't quite live up the promise of ideas presented here.

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I can't recommend any of the Dalton films or the On Her Majesty's Secret Service. The Dalton films are even more of a product of their time than other Bond films, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a weird but brilliant cap to the Sean Connery era without Sean Connery. I think it's the only film that gives Bond an ending, though someone might correct me. It's definitely only for more passionate Bond fans.

If you like the Sean Connery stuff, then I would also highly recommend Dr. No to see where the series started, and You Only Live Twice for Bond for a great Bond caper actually written by Roald Dahl, of all people.

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I think all of the Connery films (minus Diamonds) hold up fairly well and have a classy feel to them. Roger Moore's are practically unwatchable to me now. OHMSS is one of the most overlooked but I quite like it. I haven't seen License to Kill in a while, but I can definitely get on board with Dalton in Living Daylights.

I think GoldenEye might be the only good Brosnan one. I have a very strange love for that film because I played the N64 game first. Then when I saw the film it was clear how much attention to detail the developers had put into the game to match the film props, sets, etc.

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Honestly, the only ones I like are Casino Royale and Skyfall. Quantum was meh and Spectre was boring

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I think the old ones starting with Roger Moore up to the guy before Brosnan holds up as easy to watch action comedies. You have to take it for what it is though.

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Interestingly enough, NOT the one that came out last year. Boy, that movie is a mess. I thought I had been thrown back in time when Bond was standing on a boat in motion, shooting a helicopter in motion, with a Walther PPK, and blowing said helicopter up.

Oh.

My.

God.

I have military background, but I like to give people enough credit that I think everyone knows that a shot like that just isn't possible with a gun like that, especially since it was about 20x of it's optimal range.

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I remember really enjoying the living daylights, had a cool car and some awesome action. Should say I haven't seen the movie in 15 years by this point...

I am also a dalton apologist, he got a bad wrap

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I really like On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I think it works well even if completely removed from other Bond movies. Bond falls in love and gets married, shedding his stereotypical "meet woman, have sex with woman, never see her again". Then that ending! I remember the movie also being long as hell, like almost 2 1/2 hours.

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It depends what you mean by hold up, really. All of them are guilty of some silliness, but some of them have redeeming features. The two rarely intersect.

But I would say that From Russia With Love has some great stuff, particularly the train fight, and the silliness isn't yet out of control. The Man with the Golden Gun is surprisingly toned down for a Roger Moore, and has a great villain in Christopher Lee. On Her Majesty's Secret Service probably has the most emotional heft of any of them, and also a great soundtrack - despite having the worst Bond. License to Kill has a surprisingly grounded story, and really stands out as being quite a vicious revenge thriller. Goldeneye is corny at times but probably holds up, although the other Brosnan ones are maybe a little more dated.

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Man, this should've been a giant poll.

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I remember really enjoying the living daylights, had a cool car and some awesome action. Should say I haven't seen the movie in 15 years by this point...

I am also a dalton apologist, he got a bad wrap

Having watched both Dalton movies in the last year, they hold up just fine. It's a bummer that his movies never got the fair shake they deserve.

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Casino Royale is one of my favorite action movies ever, with Skyfall not too far behind, so those get my recommendation. As for classic Bond: From Russia With Love. It's not really "fun" like the series tends to be, but it's just an overall great thriller with a great villain.

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If you want a very in depth discusion of this topic I sincerely recomend the James Bonding Podcast http://nerdist.com/podcasts/james-bonding-channel/

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#19  Edited By ehhh

goldfinger is good because bond is even more incompetent than usual in it.

oh and if you like bond-sounding music i recommend you check out this song

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just watch the old ones worth it for stuff like this

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oh and rodger moore here flying under the radar trying to foil a international espionage plot

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Moonraker. It has James Bond in space. 'nuff said.

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#22  Edited By pyromagnestir

In recent years I watched all early Bond movies in order up to the end of the Connery era.

I remember nothing about Dr No, except maybe that it dragged a bit, but I gave it a very good rating on my movie profile thing so I musta liked it for some reason. Or maybe I was grading on a significant curve out of love for Bond movies as a whole.

From Russia with Love stood out as being noticeably grittier and more of a real espionage style movie than a Bond style movie would become, but it also was a bit slow. But it was also real good.

Goldfinger is the prototypical Bond movie. I think it's still very good.

Thunderball is the one they eventually remade as Never Say Never Again, and I've seen Never Say Never Again a lot more because I remember it being on the movie channels a lot when I was a kid and would watch the same movie a hundred times if it was on, but Thunderball is definitely a better version of the movie, but it's maybe not aged great.

You Only Live Twice had Sean Connery in Asian face pretending to be a Japanese Ninja so he could storm a missile base, I think? That movie doesn't hold up so well in some regards, you can imagine.

This exercise was the first time I'd ever watched On Her Majesty's Secret Service and holy shit I loved it so much. Immediately became a top 3 Bond movie for me.

And finally Diamonds Are Forever. It also doesn't hold up quite so well. It's kinda like they were already shifting to the goofier style movie that I remember the Roger Moore era being chock full of with the last few Connery movies, but Connery still is Connery, as opposed to Roger Moore's Bond who to me came off like a buzzed older drunk guy stumbling through the films looking to flirt with any chick he sees and make goofy jokes or whatnot.

Beyond that I haven't watched any Moore Bond movie in a while, liked them as a kid but I fear I'd not like them very much now that I'm a bit older.

Nor have I seen any Dalton ones recently but I am curious how I would feel about them now having seen the Daniel Craig movies.

Also haven't seen any of the Brosnan ones in a while but I did watch them a ton in my teens and I imagine Goldeneye is probably still great. Die Another Day is one I actually quite liked in the theater but have eventually come to dislike. I'd say that the first third of Die Another Day is great, the second third is middling, the final third is god awful.

I can't imagine The World is Not Enough holds up very well.

I really liked Tomorrow Never Dies but it seemed like I was one of the few who did.

So there's my rundown of the older era Bond movies.

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I always had a fondness for Tomorrow Never Dies. It was the first Bond movie I saw, and so i cherish it. Its terribly dated, but the villain chews the scenery so damn well, he's never not entertaining.

I would also recommend The Living Daylights. The final act is pretty weak, but the rest of the film is strong and has plenty of fun action.

The Spy Who Loved Me is a classic in the series, any Bond fan will tell you that it's a must watch regardless. Now that I'm older I can appreciate other thins in a movie like set design. And The Spy Who Loved Me has amazing set design.

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I have a soft spot for The World is not Enough, but it might have been because I played the hell out of the N64 video game version's multiplayer with friends (Goldeneye came out many years earlier and I didn't have those friends at the time, just my brother to play with)

I thought the movie was pretty cool, and enjoy that and Goldeneye the most, along with all the Daniel Craig movies; the rest of them are just too of their era and slow paced for me.

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#25  Edited By Brendan

I've realised over the years that I'm not really that much of a James Bond fan. I just love Casino Royale and I fucking love custom tailored suits. I basically watch James Bond for the suits at this point.

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From my very limited experience with Bond (read: 95% of the Brosnan and Craig movies, with the exception of Die Another Day and Quantum of Solace respectively), I feel like the only ones I like are Tomorrow Never Dies, Goldeneye and Skyfall; with the last two being the best.

Goldeneye lightly touches on the fact that Bond is a dinosaur and is just a really solid action movie, while Skyfall goes all in on the fact that Bond is a terrible person who is basically nothing without his job. Plus it has Naomie Harris, Javier Bardem and Sam Mendes at the top of his directorial game.

Seriously, Skyfall is incredible looking and it's a damn shame Spectre was the car crash that it was, because the trailers for it looked so good.

@brendan: Have you watched Kingsman before? If you're into awesome suits, that might be up your alley.

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@brendan: Oh boy do I have a website for you.

http://www.bondsuits.com

For all you male Bombers who occasionally come round with threads asking how to dress better, this site's also a well respected primer into the depths of men's fashion.

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Seriously, Skyfall is incredible looking and it's a damn shame Spectre was the car crash that it was, because the trailers for it looked so good.

Roger Deakins is a tough act to follow. Spectre is a complete mess to me. The fact that the creators had the nerve to try and retcon the beautiful way Skyfall capped off the Craig character is the most insulting thing about it.

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Goldeneye is definitely the best "modern" Bond movie. The Man With the Golden Gun and Moonraker are both gloriously stupid, and View to a Kill also deserves a shout-out for having a killer supporting cast (Grace Jones and Christopher Walken are the two main villains). Honestly, the only ones I would advise against watching are Dr. No, The World is Not Enough, Die Another Day, and Specter.

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Well, I think the Sean Connery films hold up on the whole, but they are products of their time. There are some elements of them that would definitely be frowned upon today. Let's just say that not all his flings are consensual, or the film makers were not particularly sensitive towards cultural differences.

Most of Roger Moore's movies range from okay to unbearable in my opinion. He had the longest run and I think the general consensus is that he started out okay and got progressively worse. I think The Spy Who Loved Me is the epitome of Roger Moore's James Bond; it's campy and has it's share of flaws, but still an okay Bond film.

Dalton, for all the grit, never quite had the charm to play Bond (at least not at the time). I view his films as more boilerplate action movies than true James Bond films. The living daylights is a decent film, but I didn't really care for License to Kill.

Pierce Brosnan doesn't lack for charms, but he's not very believable as a tough guy, and I think his movies start going downhill after a solid debut in GoldenEye. In fact, his last movie, Die Another Day, is the worst Bond movie of them all, in my opinion.

Daniel Craig is batting 500 with his tenure, two very good and two bad ones. See Casino Royale and Skyfall, and skip the rest. Take this assessment with a pinch of salt (and indeed all the assessments in this thread) as I have several relatives who thought Spectre was his best film and I've read plenty of scathing reviews of Skyfall.

Finally, George Lazenby was put into what would otherwise have been a very good Bond film. My problem with the movie is that I never for a second believed he was Bond, but the movie that surrounds him would've been a good Sean Connery movie. It actually gives a lot of backstory (which I think is unnecessary for Bond) and features the perennial Bond villain, Blofeld, like most of the 60's Bond films.

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I love the entire series, I think most of them do hold up completely. If i had to list a few off the top of my head:

  • Goldfinger
  • You Only Live Twice
  • On Her Majesties Secret Service
  • The Man with the Golden Gun
  • Moonraker
  • GoldenEye
  • Casino Royale
  • Skyfall

George Lazenby got screwed in my opinion because of the feud's that the studios had with Connery and him quitting/wanting to come back. OHMSS has one of the better plotlines of the series. Honestly, a good remake of it would do well. Also if you want to see Dianna Rigg before she becomes the Queen of the Thorns just pop in the movie.

From Russia With Love is the most predictable movie, but also moves the slowest. I think it was pretty important to the series overall though. Keep in mind Connery essentially IS Bond. Flemming started reworking a lot of his character after seeing Connery's portrayal.

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#32  Edited By ultragamerockx

@matoya: Tomorrow never dies is brill

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I love the entire series, I think most of them do hold up completely. If i had to list a few off the top of my head:

  • Goldfinger
  • You Only Live Twice
  • On Her Majesties Secret Service
  • The Man with the Golden Gun
  • Moonraker
  • GoldenEye
  • Casino Royale
  • Skyfall

George Lazenby got screwed in my opinion because of the feud's that the studios had with Connery and him quitting/wanting to come back. OHMSS has one of the better plotlines of the series. Honestly, a good remake of it would do well. Also if you want to see Dianna Rigg before she becomes the Queen of the Thorns just pop in the movie.

From Russia With Love is the most predictable movie, but also moves the slowest. I think it was pretty important to the series overall though. Keep in mind Connery essentially IS Bond. Flemming started reworking a lot of his character after seeing Connery's portrayal.

According to rumors, he was also one of the single worst people to work with. Apparently he was incredible arrogant and thought that he should automatically make Sean Connery money because he was playing Bond, even though he'd never been in a film before.

As far as a list goes, I'd put From Russia with Love on there together with Casino Royale and Skyfall. A lot of the Bond movies are fun, but those ones "hold up" the best in the sense that they tend to not rely on crazy technology or things that are so specific to the time period that they look silly down the line. For example, I really liked the Pierce Brosnan movies when they were released, but they haven't aged well at all. There's a scene in GoldenEye where they talk about 56k modems like there will never be anything better.

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I really liked the Pierce Brosnan Bond movies, although, it was probably because those were the ones out when I was about the right age to start watching them. Goldeneye was great. Tomorrow Never Dies was really good. The World is Not Enough was ok. And Die Another Day, while definitely a step down from the other movies, is still worth a watch every now and then. I just watched all these not too long ago (maybe a few months), and none of them are bad. If you like this kind of movie, you will probably like all of them. Also, I think that Pierce Brosnan made a great James Bond.

The Daniel Craig movies are very hit or miss for me. Casino Royale was definitely his best. Quantum of Solace was also good overall, but it still didn't live up to my expectations after seeing the fantastic Casino Royale. Skyfall was a huge step back. I just can't outright like that movie. I don't think it's the worst movie ever or anything, but I've actually seen it a few times just to try and understand the massive amount of praise it got when it was released. I just don't understand it. I liked Spectre more than Skyfall, though that isn't saying much, but it had so many stupid problems that I still didn't much care for it and can't flat out recommend it.

Full disclosure, I haven't seen many of older Bond movies with Connery or Moore, etc., so nothing I said should be taken as an unspoken comparison. I constantly hear that the older movies were better overall, but every time I've tried to watch them, they just don't click for me, so to speak. I have nothing against them or anyone that likes them, but from what I've seen, I have no interest in seeing them at all.

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None of them, but also all of them. For better or worse, they're all products of their times. Some stuff is definitely cringe-inducing, but if you can accept a bit of that, you'll be fine.

Above all else though, they're cornball pieces of camp, almost none of which take themselves truly seriously... except maybe the more recent ones. If you're up for a stupid fun time, Bond movies are never a bad answer.

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I still go back to all the Brosnan movies. They're cheesy, yes-But I do believe each movie represents a snapshot of popular trends, artists and tech. I did enjoy Casino Royale, however I do feel the sequels all went off the rails. Bond is at his best when he doesn't take himself too seriously.

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GoldenEye is probably the best Bond film period, followed by Skyfall and Casino Royale. I grew up watching the older films on cable and I think I have some fondness even for the not so great ones.

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#38  Edited By dagas

I think all of them are worth watching but if you want one from each actor then I would say.

Goldfinger

On Her Majesty's Secret Service

For Your Eyes Only

The Living Daylights

Goldeneye

Casino Royale

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#39  Edited By pauljeremiah

I've always felt that On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the best Bond film but sadly has the worst James Bond. Though it does have Diana Rigg as the Bond Girl.

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I've always felt that On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the best Bond film but sadly has the worst James Bond. Though it does have Diana Rigg as the Bond Girl.

Steven Soderbergh might agree with you.

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I'll be the one to go to bat for Diamonds Are Forever, it's the greatest James Bond parody ever made, it just so happens to be a James Bond movie also. I genuinely love it, that movie is hilarious. I'm laughing right now just thinking about Dr. Hergescheimer from G Section.

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I recently watched Thunderball.

Thunderball is absolutely terrible. Minus the opening, which has Bond assassinate a member of SPECTRE who is disguised as his own widow and then escaping by jetpack, it is a boring spy film film about finding some missing nukes. Except instead of being about Bond and this cool international spy group doing spy stuff, it is a film where Bond runs around doing Bond crap, and then the ending is what feels like a four hour long fight sequence underwater between an army of Navy Seals and the bad guy's henchmen.

Thunderball is everything people hate about Roger Moore's Bond, but without the feeling that Roger Moore got how stupid these films were.

I have a soft spot for Diamonds are Forever. it feels like the bond film where the makers realised that Bond is at its core dumb. Also Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd are great.

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Austin powers. What a great parody that killed the campy bond version for many many years until casino royals

Also I really enjoyed the "man from uncle" that was an entertaining movie with espionage stuff. I don't know if they're doing a sequel though.

I liked casino royale except the end. The guy you thought was the big bad the whole was just a pawn that then leads to this whole convoluted mess and then a building goes underwater and then bond is sad and no wait! He kills this other guy at the end.

But the first half of that film is the best bond that ever bonded

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#44  Edited By godzilla_sushi

I myself like many here will recommend Casino Royal because it was different and special. I can't really rank them right, but I can recommend the best one. Introduced my to Mads Mikklsen who is a genious.

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I watched most of them as a child, but I was too young to understand most of the plots when I had, and I recently went through the path of rewatching all the movies in order [at least the officially produced one, skipping the first Casino Royale make and Never Say Never Again since that is just Thunderball.... again].

I am so far up to half way through Octopussy but my studies have gotten in the way for a bit and am on a short break....I should mention a quick thing. I tend to disagree with many of the common reviews of the older bond movies. Maybe I am more patient with the slower pace of some [if you are looking for pure adrenaline modern action movie they are not it, but have large portions of suspense, and intrigue with it (which many modern movie viewers would call "slow" probably)]. I think most all of them hold up as they did at the time, but changes in taste to more pure action movies may turn you off to them so keep that in mind as you go through this. Some get cheesy as heck, such as the last few Connery ones. Anyway... My opinion on them watching them recently:

The first few Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball are probably the best Connery ones. I still love these ones seeing them again. Of course they all have their cheesy moments, but they do a great job of actually playing with the darker side of James Bond, and show off how he isn't just some playboy spy, but actually sacrifices a lot of himself for queen and country [especially one thunderball scene shows it well]. The books are a lot more about this, but the movies not quite as much. Special shout out to the Scuba War scene in Thunderball, I think that thing doesn't get enough credit. These first four are easily what a lot of classic bond scenes come from, especially Goldfinger.

The next Three are odd, I am going to skip the Lazenby one until I finish the next two Connery ones, despite it coming out between the two. You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever are where the Connery movies..... get weird and cheesy. I mean YOLT has him dressing up as a "Japanese Man" to infiltrate this area, but people keep trying to assassinate him while he is blended in, clearly showing no one buys his disguise, but don't worry he goes and fights a volcano full of machine guns with an army of ninjas at the end... Cool stuff in that movie actually but way silly at points. Diamonds are forever though.... Man... Him driving through the desert on some weirdo moon rover and just so much of that movie lol... But Mr. Wint and Kidd are pretty classic.

You Only Live Twice convinced me that Shenmue is a work of FACT and not FICTION. Bond goes on a Japanese Dock, within 20 seconds... A forklift [Probably being raced by Vinny] runs him down, and then he instantly gets attacked by a bunch of Dock Workers.

As I said about all of them have some good stuff in it, even diamonds are forever, but those last couple get very silly.

Now the Black sheep of bond... George Lazenby. Honestly I really really enjoyed this movie. I still am not a huge fan of Lazenby as bond. He just never had the charisma of most others to me, but the movie itself is actually quite good. Does a great job at showing the vulnerable side of bond, and more emotional side.

Then comes Roger Moore. Honestly he was always my favorite bond growing up [and I grew up well past his prime, in the 90s]. That dude just had charisma and class that I think no other bond ever showed. The downside of Moore is he got a bit too playboy spy in the films writing, and you didn't see much of his darker side. That is more of the writing of the films, less of him as the actor. It got better past the first few movies, but at a point they just basically have him invite a woman to bed every time they need to change a scene in these first couple. I think his "action movie one liners" surpass Connery a bit.

However, his first movie Live and Let Die is easily my least favorite so far up to what I have rewatched [up to Octopussy]. Intro song is great, but man the whole time Bond just feels like he is doing stuff below his pay grade [and even at one point basically admits to it in that film] but he keeps getting caught against guys it feels like he should be too good to get caught against. Plus just not nearly as much good intrigue to it I feel. Also you get the Sheriff J W Pepper as comic relief [in this and the next film] which is basically there for you to laugh about how much of an idiot he is. Has some plusses and minuses to him. Some neat scenes, but easily my weakest Moore so far, as far as the writing goes for the movie itself. Moore I think is great and acts well, just the plot of it never worked for me. Much of this maybe had me just not able to understand why these guys who were basically just some drug thugs were catching him so much so easily. I mean I get it if some super villain does... but this movie messed up my suspension of disbelief a fair bit. I think this movie may have more positives to it that if I got over this part I would enjoy more.

The Man with the Golden Gun is I believe one of the lower reviewed ones out there, but man is it one of my favorite. The whole thing is about an epic duel between a crazy assassin guy, and bond. Plus a ton of cool intrigue that actually makes it happen, but minus an overarching plot point that is just a blah mcguffin. Easily one of my favorite Moores, despite what the critics say. Goodnight as a bond girl I feel was a bit disliked, but I actually liked her a great deal. A bit of a pitiful inept agent that gives her a bit of endearment to me.

The Spy Who Loved Me. Only thing I can say bad about this one is the actual villain himself is a touch forgettable and could have had a bit more emotion from the bond girl, but man this one is great. Probably the last great bond song [and probably one of THE best, often tied up with Goldfinger by most]. The first appearance of Jaws, the big invincible guy with metal teeth. The "guy bond punches but never seems to hurt" is a henchmen archetype you see throughout the series, but this guy is easily the most perfect example of it. Also, one of the best opening to a movies [pre title] that I have seen, and great transition to the song.

Moonraker To me another of The Man with the Golden Gun, most people seem to hate, but I love. It is obvious near the end this movie came out after star wars, but man I still love some of those ending scenes, especially the SPACE BATTLE The villain to me is especially good on this one, which I feel had been a problem in a number of other earlier ones. Some cool action scenes, and good humor in it too. Jaws has some great character development, if not at some parts a touch silly [but heck, Jaws always was a touch silly...]. Also... Get ready to see some 7Up Product placement, and one of the weirdest "uh, I guess he is in Mexico now dressed as a cowboy for no reason?" or maybe it wasn't Mexico but it was something like that. It doesn't just feel to me like they put star wars on james bond, it def feels like it is its own thing.

For Your Eyes Only This one tried to get a fair bit grittier. Still not as much as the earlier ones [And I hear Dalton gets pretty dark?] More of a help out this girl revenge story, and more of moving bond away from just some lady hungry sex fiend like some of the earlier ones got him into [which is quite contrary to a fair bit of his character implied in the early ones ( his reasonings and such ) and the books, contrary to those early moore ones]. Some good intrigue and whatnot in this one, along with some cool stuff all around. This one is probably the most Connery of them, while still holding onto Moore and his charisma., but also one of the less overall exciting ones to me.

Anyway, I am half way through Octopussy right now, but that is my take! I imagine many will disagree with me, as it seems most reviews do as well... Oh well! If you can laugh through some of the silly points, and love intrigue, action, and whatnot, I highly recommend you watch through them all. As a massive MST3K fan I really can enjoy the silly points along with the tons of cool points.

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#46  Edited By Ben_H

My context for James Bond is that I watched them all when I was 10, so my views are colored by memories of thinking some of them were super awesome when I was 10. I watched some of them again recently and I still love them. I've only watched the old ones. Haven't seen anything with Daniel Craig.

  • You Only Live Twice: HELICOPTER. BACKPACK. VOLCANO. LAIR. ROCKETS EATING ROCKETS. NINJAS PENETRATE THE DO... I MEAN LAIR
  • A View To A Kill: CHRISTOPHER WALKEN AS AN EVIL DUDE. Duran Duran did the theme. A fantastic watch if you don't take it seriously
  • Man With the Golden Gun: FUCK YEAH
  • Live and Let Die: FUCK YEAH

The Living Daylights because of THIS:

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Avoid Never Say Never Again. That's not a good movie.

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Love to watch Bond movies.

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I hate both Skyfall and Spectre with the burning passion of a thousand suns.

Fuck.

Those.

Moves.

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Goldeneye for its soundtrack. Casino Royale up until the end of the poker game, at which point it becomes stupid. Man with the Golden Gun has a certain charm to it, though they sorta ripped off Enter the Dragon IMO.

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Casino Royal with Craig is a great film.