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Why are depictions of Muhammad blasphemy?

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#1  Edited By Godwind

I just don't want the answer "Because the it says so it in the Qur'an."  I want to know they decided to make it blasphemy to depict pictures of Muhammad.

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#2  Edited By CoolDrMoney

He was really self-conscious

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#3  Edited By wefwefasdf

Because a picture couldn't fully depict his glory and is therefore blasphemous? Just a guess.

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#4  Edited By cap123

Because much like other religions they didn't want their people to worship 'false idols', there were fears that the followers may worship the image, and not what it represents.
 
also it doesn't say it in the qu'ran, but accompanying literature from about the same time.

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#5  Edited By Icemael

In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship.
 
That's how I've understood it, at least.

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#6  Edited By chrissedoff

come on, haven't you ever known someone who hated having his picture taken?
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#7  Edited By Video_Game_King
@Icemael said:
" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "
But what about non-religious use? You know, like maybe making a painting of him or something?
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#8  Edited By allprox

My problem is if they never drew any pictures of him in the first place because they were forbidden, how do they know what he looked like?
By the logic they're following I could draw bugs bunny, call it Muhammad and they could be offened by it.

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#9  Edited By Godwind
@Icemael said:
" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "
Not quite.  Muslims have a great deal of respect for Muhammad.  The two holiest cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina, are where Muhammad was born and buried respectfully.
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#10  Edited By Jeffery
@chrissedoff said:
" come on, haven't you ever known someone who hated having his picture taken? "
Exactly.
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@Allprox said:
" My problem is if they never drew any pictures of him in the first place because they were forbidden, how do they know what he looked like? By the logic they're following I could draw bugs bunny, call it Muhammad and they could be offened by it. "
The second South Park episode was censored because of a threat from a Muslim group. Even know they had him censored it caused anger. 
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#12  Edited By Animasta
@Godwind said:
" @Icemael said:
" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "
Not quite.  Muslims have a great deal of respect for Muhammad.  The two holiest cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina, are where Muhammad was born and buried respectfully. "
respect, not worship. and weren't those two holy purely because of what Muhammed DID in the cities, not because of the born and buried thing? I recall him having the first vision in a cave near one of those cities. Although I'm definitely not sure.
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#13  Edited By Icemael
@Laketown said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Icemael said:
" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "
Not quite.  Muslims have a great deal of respect for Muhammad.  The two holiest cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina, are where Muhammad was born and buried respectfully. "
respect, not worship. and weren't those two holy purely because of what Muhammed DID in the cities, not because of the born and buried thing? I recall him having the first vision in a cave near one of those cities. Although I'm definitely not sure. "
Yeah, pretty much this. They have incredible respect for him, of course, but they don't worship him. He's not the Jesus or Buddha-like figure non-muslims often make him out to be.
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@SpikeSpiegel said:
" Because a picture couldn't fully depict his glory and is therefore blasphemous? Just a guess. "
Pretty much this. Praise be Allah and all that. Or whatever.
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#16  Edited By Video_Game_King
@Icemael said:
" @Laketown said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Icemael said:
" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "
Not quite.  Muslims have a great deal of respect for Muhammad.  The two holiest cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina, are where Muhammad was born and buried respectfully. "
respect, not worship. and weren't those two holy purely because of what Muhammed DID in the cities, not because of the born and buried thing? I recall him having the first vision in a cave near one of those cities. Although I'm definitely not sure. "
Yeah, pretty much this. They have incredible respect for him, of course, but they don't worship him. He's not the Jesus or Buddha-like figure non-muslims often make him out to be. "
But wait, that doesn't explain why they get pissed over ANY picture of Muhammad, especially those by non-Muslims. Doesn't getting pissed over such depictions at least resemble idolizing him, even if nobody on either side is doing it?
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#17  Edited By vidiot

 I think the huge disconnect for a lot of people are all the, "do this and you will burn forever", portions in the bible. You want rules about committing blasphemous acts? Sins? Look no further, this book has it all.
 
Of course, we don't go after people in mobs for not attending church on Sunday. We have are right wing zealots, some of which have committed crimes in the name of their respective religion. I guess there's a severe lack of moderate voices in the Islamic faith? Those that can say it's in promptly in bad taste, and then move on with their lives. Regardless, such anger over something so small seems pretty ridiculous.  
 
Wasn't there another thread on this?

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#18  Edited By jim_dandy

According to the Seattle Times, the hadith rules that forbid the drawing of Muhammed also forbid the drawing of any living creature, as it "presumes that man has the same creative power as God."

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#19  Edited By Icemael
@Video_Game_King said:
" @Icemael said:
" @Laketown said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Icemael said:
" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "
Not quite.  Muslims have a great deal of respect for Muhammad.  The two holiest cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina, are where Muhammad was born and buried respectfully. "
respect, not worship. and weren't those two holy purely because of what Muhammed DID in the cities, not because of the born and buried thing? I recall him having the first vision in a cave near one of those cities. Although I'm definitely not sure. "
Yeah, pretty much this. They have incredible respect for him, of course, but they don't worship him. He's not the Jesus or Buddha-like figure non-muslims often make him out to be. "
But wait, that doesn't explain why they get pissed over ANY picture of Muhammad, especially those by non-Muslims. Doesn't getting pissed over such depictions at least resemble idolizing him, even if nobody on either side is doing it? "
Those people are the more... hardcore muslims. Most muslims don't really have anything against depictions of Muhammad at all, as long as they aren't intended or used as idols. 
 
But the people who get pissed and burn down embassies because some dude in some country made a picture depicting and mocking Muhammad are the same people who think pedophilia is fine, and that suicide bombing innocent non-muslims takes you to Paradise. They're misguided at best, and completely insane at worst. Religious zealotry at its most terrifying.
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#20  Edited By Damian

My limited understand is that only Muslims are truly expected not to depict  the prophet, Muhammad (distinction; there are a blajullion Muhammad's, and plenty of whom have been depicted). And from my personal experience of seeing how various Jesi are flaunted about, I can understand why a religion would instil such a rule.

As for the extreme reactions to a Westerner's depiction of him, well, they're extremists.  
Not to mention it's rude to just want to depict him to spite a people. But taboos are always fun for a while, so here we are.

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Because it's all made up?

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#22  Edited By AhmadMetallic
@SpikeSpiegel said:
" Because a picture couldn't fully depict his glory and is therefore blasphemous? Just a guess. "
Something like that.. 
 
Muslims love and appreciate Muhammed in a way that makes him so holy and different that he shouldnt be drawn or depicted... 
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@Fragstoff:
@Godwind:
It isn't in the Qur'an. 
 
Also a lot of religions don't approve of "graven images," some Muslims are just a little more in the "We will cut your fucking eyes out." camp.
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#24  Edited By frankfartmouth

Because he's Amish

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#25  Edited By Ben99

who said it's blasphemous ? it was just a disrespect for a much respected person on earth for muslims . Many Muslims felt offended because it's in the religion of Islam to love Allah and prophet Muhammad unconditionally . Muslims remember Allah and Muhammad every day by reciting verses from Quran and and some Hadith DAILY. You could imagine the level of spirituality in that.

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#26  Edited By HandsomeDead

Muslims are children living in the dark ages.

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#27  Edited By JiuJitsuka85

Because he's ugly and looks like a child rapist. The muslims don't want the world to find that out I guess.

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#28  Edited By DoctorPineapple

I'm not entirely sure why it's considered totally blasphemous but I've always felt it was because the faith hoped for you to see yourself in Mohamed's position. Kinda like a nameless protagonist

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#29  Edited By Bones8677
@Icemael said:

" In Islam, idolatry is an unforgivable sin. The reason depicting Muhammad is forbidden is that Islam is about God; Muhammad was just his conduit, and depicting him would be misleading as he isn't and should in no way be a subject of worship. That's how I've understood it, at least. "

Similar to how Protestants rarely depict The Virgin Mary in contrast to Catholics. Us Protestants greatly respect Mary, but she shouldn't be depicted nearly as much as she is in Catholic circles. It wasn't her that Christians followed. I never understood why modern Catholics hold Mary with such reverence. 
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#30  Edited By Animasta
@HandsomeDead said:
" Muslims are children living in the dark ages. "
yep and it totally wasn't the western world's fault...
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#31  Edited By Bones8677
@Video_Game_King: You're really going to have to ask them these questions. Most people here are not Muslim, or even religious. So you're not going to get a legitimate answer from most.
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This thread is full of so much high horse predjudice bullshit its baffling.

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#33  Edited By iamjohn

Spoilers: they aren't.

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#34  Edited By HandsomeDead
@Laketown said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" Muslims are children living in the dark ages. "
yep and it totally wasn't the western world's fault... "
Nothing worse than white guilt.
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#35  Edited By Animasta
@HandsomeDead said:
" @Laketown said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" Muslims are children living in the dark ages. "
yep and it totally wasn't the western world's fault... "
Nothing worse than white guilt. "
well us and the mongols I suppose, but still
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#36  Edited By HandsomeDead
@Laketown said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" @Laketown said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" Muslims are children living in the dark ages. "
yep and it totally wasn't the western world's fault... "
Nothing worse than white guilt. "
well us and the mongols I suppose, but still "
But still nothing.
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#37  Edited By JakJ
@LordXavierBritish said:
"

This thread is full of so much high horse predjudice bullshit its baffling.

"
The majority of people on this site are white with European ancestry or actual Europeans. These reactions are actually the opposite of baffling, that is to say sadly predictable.
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#38  Edited By thatfrood

Maybe Whiskey Media should go make a prayed.com, cuz you guys sure do love to talk about religion.

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#40  Edited By xMP44x

It is against some Muslim rule. It says about not having any imagery of the Prophet in their religion, as it is blasphemous to do so. Kinda like in Christianity, with the commandment of 'Thou shalt not worship any false idols'. Personally, I don't mind if the Muslims don't want their Prophet shown. Fine with me, but getting South Park censored might be a little unfair. Surely they could have given that episode a miss and let everyone else enjoy it? Eh, whatever.

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#41  Edited By ryanwho

I forgot all about this. Oops.

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#42  Edited By habster3

I don't know; I find a lot of Islam ridiculous and maybe even a little stupid. Not saying the religion is stupid, though.

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#43  Edited By Ace829
@ThatFrood said:
"

Maybe Whiskey Media should go make a prayed.com, cuz you guys sure do love to talk about religion.

"
Your idea is genius.
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#44  Edited By ArchScabby
@Ace829 said:
" @ThatFrood said:
"

Maybe Whiskey Media should go make a prayed.com, cuz you guys sure do love to talk about religion.

"
Your idea is genius. "
I wouldn't definitely not go there!
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#45  Edited By Ace829
@ArchScabby: So...you're all for it then? o_O
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#46  Edited By dantheman1515

Because no one knows what he looks like, because he never existed. 

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#47  Edited By Icemael
@dantheman1515 said:
" Because no one knows what he looks like, because he never existed.  "

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#48  Edited By lazyturtle
@habster3: You could say the same thing about every religion. Catholics..no meat on Friday? Jews...no pork? Hindus...whatever the hell offends them? Mormons..no caffeine? Jehovah's Witnesses..no voting or birthdays? 
 
To have a successful religion, you've just GOT to have some reason nonsensical rules. Thats just the way it is.
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#49  Edited By Milkman

Because people are overly sensitive about their fictional characters.

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