Should I play Ocarina of Time before Majora's Mask?

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#1 Posted by Lozz (381 posts) -

Hey all,

I have some Amazon gift credit and I'm thinking about getting Majora's Mask. The only Zelda game that I have finished is a Link Between Worlds (which I thought was awesome). I know that the stories kind of reset each time but since Majora's Mask is so similar to Ocarina of Time, I'm not sure whether it matters if I play them in order or not? I hope to play them both eventually.

The other annoying thing is that Ocarina of Time is now out of print everywhere so my only option is to ebay for loads or eShop which means I don't get to use my Amazon credit.

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#2 Posted by Belegorm (1848 posts) -

Well... one of those is a perfect, genre defining game, and the other is a failed piece of shit

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#3 Posted by GiantLizardKing (1144 posts) -

Yes, play play OoT first. It's one of the best games ever and Majora borrows from Ocarina heavily. In order to have proper context for a spinoff/expansion pack, it's important the play the original first.

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#4 Edited by DinosaurCanada (938 posts) -

I'm playing MM3D right now without having actually played OoT, and I think I'd appreciate it in ways I'm currently not, if I played OoT first. That said, I'm still liking it a lot, so I don't think it detracts the quality very much.

I'm in the same boat as you, I wasn't willing to look around or pay loads for OoT first, or I would have gotten it.

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#5 Posted by tyty (45 posts) -

Gah! Ebay is crazy with those prices right now. I'm from Canada so its still in stock for us. Is there no used game store thats more reasonable for you? Or Craigslist?

Try and play Ocarina before if you can. It helps get you accustomed to that era of Zelda. But all you need to know is that Skull Kid was in Ocarina and Majoras with the mask. Majoras is very self contained.

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#6 Posted by Immunity (153 posts) -

You don't have to, but whichever one you play first will definitely impact your opinion of the second.

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#7 Posted by Dayve86 (177 posts) -

You should play OOT first anyway since it's a much better game and should also be cheaper than MM at this point.

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#8 Edited by Dan_CiTi (5250 posts) -

Not really, they're both great. Only difference really is that Majora's world is really good, but has the time mechanic, and Ocarina is like a more flat Link to the Past.

It does suck that Ocarina 3D is out of print, but I'm sure a Gamestop has a good used copy, it is a must play game and that is the best version. Just use the Amazon credit on Majora's Mask and worry about Ocarina of Time later. There is no need for the context of Ocarina of Time with Majora, as there is no need for Ocarina and Majora for The Wind Waker. They're sequels but barely. Even less context than what you needed for Link to the Past to Link Between Worlds. It's not a big deal.

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#9 Posted by Nightriff (7200 posts) -

Yes as the story continues from OoT to MM and could get confusing.

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#10 Posted by Panelhopper (504 posts) -

You don't have to, but it's difficult to appreciate one without the other. Plus, although I prefer Majora's mask, ocarina is a much better game.

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#11 Posted by jiggajoe14 (1822 posts) -

@dan_citi: I just got OoT 3D off the eshop a few weeks ago. If he can't get a used copy that would be a viable.

I had finished OoT before but decided to get it again for 3DS because its been ages since I've beaten it and I wanted to get a better perspective to the differences in the game and the context of how they made MM in its shorter development cycle. Its not required to play OoT before but if you are interested in those kinds of things I would recommend it....also OoT is a fucking awesome game!

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#12 Edited by nophilip (687 posts) -

The connection between the two (aside from shared assets) is very sparse. Play either first- they're both fantastic games. OoT is better, but Majoras' Mask is a true classic as well.

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#13 Posted by ShaunK (1665 posts) -

Ocarina is one of the best games ever made and it somehow still stands up. Playing that first could set you up for disappointment with Majora's or it could enhance your enjoyment of it. It is hard to say, but I think that you should play Ocarina first. Majora's is more enjoyable because you are seeing the same character models in similar situations but they are different people. So it really does feel like a sequel.

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#14 Edited by hammondoftexas (1249 posts) -

Majora's Mask is as close as you can get to a direct sequel to a Zelda game. MM and OoT came out something like 18 months apart from each other on the same console, using the same engine, controls, etc. etc. I would play them in order just to get a mini Nintendo 64 experience if you never played the originals.

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#15 Posted by Zippedbinders (1198 posts) -

Check a Gamestop or similar store to find a copy of Ocarina if you can, otherwise just use your Amazon credit on Majora. Unless you can buy eShop cards on Amazon with that money?

You don't need to have played Ocarina to enjoy Majora, but it will add to your experience. They're about as different as similar games can possibly be.

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#16 Posted by Lozz (381 posts) -

Sounds like I'm gonna do Ocarina first, then get Majora's Mask. Really annoying how hard Ocarina is to get these days. I'm thinking I might just make it an eShop purchase.

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#17 Posted by Slag (8161 posts) -

There's very little narrative connection between the two, that part won't be an issue.

I'll say play Majora's first, then Ocarina if you want.

The reason being the Asset borrowing from OoT is so obvious in some ways it lessened MM to me in a way I think that made it harder to appreciate for what it did do well.

Majora's really is a unique Zelda title, but it did feel "cheap" compared to the zelda fare fans got before it. Playing it first would remove that potential impression from your MM experience and I think Ocarina will hold up no matter what order you play them in.

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#18 Posted by DavidMerrick (211 posts) -

Speaking as someone who considers Majora's Mask his favourite Zelda game, you can only truly appreciate it if you've played Ocarina prior to it. MM, in its reuse of assets, music, and weird game design, makes it feel like some forgotten, corrupted cartridge of OoT you discovered in some flea market bin. The whole game has a pervasive feeling of "not right," the uncanny at its purest, and it feeds off of and subverts your familiarity with the previous game.

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#19 Posted by BisonHero (11604 posts) -

@lozz: I dunno, what you're asking is like "Should I play Brood War before I played Starcraft 1?" I mean, Brood War/Majora's Mask is just objectively more interesting on a mechanical level, but you should probably play Starcraft 1/Ocarina of Time so you can appreciate why.

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#20 Posted by BisonHero (11604 posts) -

@belegorm said:

Well... one of those is a perfect, genre defining game, and the other is a failed piece of shit

Hahahaha, ok buddy. Ocarina of Time gave the world lock-on targeting, but other than that, the only genre it defined is "3D Zeldas on Nintendo platforms". Zelda game design is still basically just remaking Ocarina of Time, in terms of it controlling and feeling exactly the same and having really the exact same amount of complexity as OoT did. Most other developers making action adventure games have moved on from Ocarina of Time.

Don't get me wrong, it was a revelation when it launched. Then Nintendo basically didn't build on it at all. Then non-Nintendo devs took the good ideas from OoT, continued to evolve the genre, and left Ocarina of Time behind. It's frankly kind of embarrassing how much Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword still feel like Ocarina of Time just in an engine with better graphics.

Majora's Mask tries a crazy amount of new game design ideas given how limited its budget and dev time appear to have been. It's honestly way more innovative compared to Ocarina of Time which basically just translated Link to the Past into 3D space and did a decent job of it.

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#21 Edited by John1912 (2504 posts) -

@lozz: It wouldnt hurt, but most Zelda games have very little to do with any of the others. There isnt a real over arching story that "links" all the games into a one single timeline. They typically reinvent the world with each game. Zelda games have very little story to begin with, so you likely will not be missing much.

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#22 Posted by Blommer4 (297 posts) -

MM is a direct sequel to OoT, so I would recommend it, but it isn't necessary at all. I like both games, though I prefer OoT, but you don't need to play any of them to enjoy the other. Might make it a little more enjoyable, but both games are great by themselves.

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#23 Posted by ArbitraryWater (15750 posts) -

Given how Majora's Mask is a deliberate subversion of a lot of what OOT puts down, you're probably better off playing it second.

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#24 Posted by ll_Exile_ll (3017 posts) -

Majora's Mask is one of the very few direct sequels in the entire Zelda series, taking place directly after the end of Ocarina of TIme. So yes, you should play OoT first.

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#25 Posted by Dan_CiTi (5250 posts) -

@belegorm said:

Well... one of those is a perfect, genre defining game, and the other is a failed piece of shit

Hahahaha, ok buddy. Ocarina of Time gave the world lock-on targeting, but other than that, the only genre it defined is "3D Zeldas on Nintendo platforms". Zelda game design is still basically just remaking Ocarina of Time, in terms of it controlling and feeling exactly the same and having really the exact same amount of complexity as OoT did. Most other developers making action adventure games have moved on from Ocarina of Time.

Don't get me wrong, it was a revelation when it launched. Then Nintendo basically didn't build on it at all. Then non-Nintendo devs took the good ideas from OoT, continued to evolve the genre, and left Ocarina of Time behind. It's frankly kind of embarrassing how much Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword still feel like Ocarina of Time just in an engine with better graphics.

Majora's Mask tries a crazy amount of new game design ideas given how limited its budget and dev time appear to have been. It's honestly way more innovative compared to Ocarina of Time which basically just translated Link to the Past into 3D space and did a decent job of it.

Yeah basically. Twilight Princess is basically Super Ocarina of Time.

Majora's is not a bad place to start, the connection between the two games exist, but really isn't that substantial. Honestly Ocarina & Majora mean more in realtion to The Wind Waker than Ocarina to Majora. The only real connection is that it is the same Link leaving after his work is done in OOT to go to experience the events of Majora's Mask. All you'd get really is in the beginning you'd be all like "oh yeah that's the horse from the last game".

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#26 Posted by Lozz (381 posts) -

To anyone interested, I managed to find Ocarina of Time back in stock through Amazon here in the UK. Decided to go with that first and then do Majora's Mask second. Gonna be doing a lot of Zelda-ing! Cheers for the responses.

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#27 Posted by Joe423 (272 posts) -

@belegorm: Hey, Ocarina of Time is a great game not a failed piece of shit!

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#28 Posted by FrostyRyan (2924 posts) -

Uh, I can't imagine why anyone would call either Ocarina or Majora a "failed piece of shit"........so don't listen to that noise.

Anyway, I think you'd appreciate Majora more if you play Ocarina first. So do that.

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#29 Edited by Spoonman671 (5874 posts) -

You probably should, but it doesn't really matter.

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#30 Posted by Dan_CiTi (5250 posts) -

@lozz said:

To anyone interested, I managed to find Ocarina of Time back in stock through Amazon here in the UK. Decided to go with that first and then do Majora's Mask second. Gonna be doing a lot of Zelda-ing! Cheers for the responses.

Rad, don't forget to do the sidequests too and explore. It's a fun game.

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#31 Posted by GStats (197 posts) -

Doesn't really matter. Most Zelda games are largely independent. Majora's Mask technically comes after one of the timelines at the end of Ocarina but there's only a small amount shared between them.