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    Co-Founder of Valve Corporation, Gabe Newell is responsible for the Half-Life franchise.

    Gabe Newells new Idea?

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    #1  Edited By Ferginator4k

    So I'm an Australian Gamer and i watch a show called Good Game, and the other night they had an exclusive interview with Gabe Newell in which he talked about his new idea for Steam Involving Community Funding.
    The Interview and Show can be watched here-http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/

    Please Post your Comments.

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    #2  Edited By nicolenomicon

    I would happily contribute money to Valve for a product. It would make me feel fuzzy inside with the knowledge that I'm helping bring joy to gamers everywhere.

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    #3  Edited By PureRok

    As far as I'm concerned, buying their products is funding their next game.

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    #4  Edited By Keyser_Soze

    Awww, out of Pizza money are we Gabe.

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    #5  Edited By Karmum

    If I'm funding their game, I better get the game for free, no?

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    #6  Edited By Scooper
    @PureRok said:
    " As far as I'm concerned, buying their products is funding their next game. "
    Exactaly.
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    #7  Edited By phlegms

    Gabe Newell is just looking for money to fuel his sordid and raunchy "research" trips to Vietnam.

    And also money for pizza..

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    #8  Edited By callik
    @PureRok said:
    " As far as I'm concerned, buying their products is funding their next game. "
    This.
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    #9  Edited By cspiffo

    This just in.  Gabe newll invents the stock market.  Film at eleven.

    Seriously though.  If I were investing in a game, I'd want to know what I'd be getting for my investment.  Is is just the game? A portion of the profit?  A vote in how the company is run?  What on earth would I be getting for my money.

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    #10  Edited By Ferginator4k

    I find the idea intriging and would perhaps be intrested depending on the price.

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    #11  Edited By RsistncE

    Maybe he should think about, you know, making Valve a public company traded on the stock exchange? Sometimes I seriously wonder how some of these people honestly have enough brains to create all these awesome games.

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    #12  Edited By nicolenomicon
    @cspiffo said:
    " This just in.  Gabe newll invents the stock market.  Film at eleven. Seriously though.  If I were investing in a game, I'd want to know what I'd be getting for my investment.  Is is just the game? A portion of the profit?  A vote in how the company is run?  What on earth would I be getting for my money. "
    You get a percentage of profits, I think that's what he said during the GoodGame interview. But why all the hate to this idea? Funding them this money will make the games better as it gives them less constraints money wise. So you get money back for your investment and a better game than if nobody invested.
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    #13  Edited By cspiffo
    @SL33TBL1ND said:
    " @cspiffo said:
    " This just in.  Gabe newll invents the stock market.  Film at eleven. Seriously though.  If I were investing in a game, I'd want to know what I'd be getting for my investment.  Is is just the game? A portion of the profit?  A vote in how the company is run?  What on earth would I be getting for my money. "
    You get a percentage of profits, I think that's what he said during the GoodGame interview. But why all the hate to this idea? Funding them this money will make the games better as it gives them less constraints money wise. So you get money back for your investment and a better game than if nobody invested. "
    Oh, I'm not hating.  I just want to know more about it.  more skeptically curious than hateful.
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    #14  Edited By EvilTwin
    @RsistncE said:
    " Maybe he should think about, you know, making Valve a public company traded on the stock exchange?"
    So they can answer to stockholders?  I think that's a much worse idea.  Besides, if you watch the interview (not trying to be condescending I just don't know if you did or not) it didn't seem like he was talking about Valve specifically, but building the tools for developers in general to be able to do this over Steam. 
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    #15  Edited By CowMuffins

    A game called Interstellar Marines already uses this method. You can contribute $40 and get all three games in the series or $25 and get the first game in the series (if they ever come out). You also get beta access and a little icon next to your name on the forums saying that you helped the cause.

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    #16  Edited By nicolenomicon
    @cspiffo said:
    " @SL33TBL1ND said:
    " @cspiffo said:
    " This just in.  Gabe newll invents the stock market.  Film at eleven. Seriously though.  If I were investing in a game, I'd want to know what I'd be getting for my investment.  Is is just the game? A portion of the profit?  A vote in how the company is run?  What on earth would I be getting for my money. "
    You get a percentage of profits, I think that's what he said during the GoodGame interview. But why all the hate to this idea? Funding them this money will make the games better as it gives them less constraints money wise. So you get money back for your investment and a better game than if nobody invested. "
    Oh, I'm not hating.  I just want to know more about it.  more skeptically curious than hateful. "
    I wasn't just talking about you. But I guess it is a good idea to be sceptical.

    @CowMuffins said:
    " A game called Interstellar Marines already uses this method. You can contribute $40 and get all three games in the series or $25 and get the first game in the series (if they ever come out). You also get beta access and a little icon next to your name on the forums saying that you helped the cause. "
    That is kind of different as you're more or less donating/pre-ordering the game. What Gabe is suggesting is that we invest and get a return from our investment. This does not necessarily mean you are buying the game.
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    #17  Edited By CowMuffins
    @SL33TBL1ND said:
    " @cspiffo said:
    " @SL33TBL1ND said:
    " @cspiffo said:
    " This just in.  Gabe newll invents the stock market.  Film at eleven. Seriously though.  If I were investing in a game, I'd want to know what I'd be getting for my investment.  Is is just the game? A portion of the profit?  A vote in how the company is run?  What on earth would I be getting for my money. "
    You get a percentage of profits, I think that's what he said during the GoodGame interview. But why all the hate to this idea? Funding them this money will make the games better as it gives them less constraints money wise. So you get money back for your investment and a better game than if nobody invested. "
    Oh, I'm not hating.  I just want to know more about it.  more skeptically curious than hateful. "
    I wasn't just talking about you. But I guess it is a good idea to be sceptical.

    @CowMuffins said:
    " A game called Interstellar Marines already uses this method. You can contribute $40 and get all three games in the series or $25 and get the first game in the series (if they ever come out). You also get beta access and a little icon next to your name on the forums saying that you helped the cause. "
    This is kind of different as you're more or less donating/pre-ordering the game. What Gabe is suggesting is that we invest and get a return from our investment. This does not necessarily mean you are buying the game. "
    No, it's what Gabe is talking about. You get a free copy of the game when it comes out, if you invest in it by donating.
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    #18  Edited By AndrewB

    I'm not sure I completely understand this whole business still... but doesn't this just mean that the danger in developing a game and possibly not seeing a monetary return if it can't turn a profit is just passed on to anyone else who might be buying into the game? It seems literally like a miniature stock market, and this stock market would have the very same pitfalls. Would I feel safe giving a developer money when I have no idea if the game is going to be good, or if it is going to sell? What if no one else contributes, and they can't make the game? What if something happens during development and the game never comes out? Think of a Duke Nukem Forever scenario. There seems to be too many "if"s and way too much blind trust involved, and those are the recipes for being ripped off.

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    #19  Edited By Diamond

    Only way this would be a valid business model is if they give you a portion of the games profits as any investment, and they give you some choice in what game is actually made, and other design decisions (a poll for invested gamers?)

    Otherwise it's absolute milking BS.  We already pay for the games, we shouldn't pay for investing in games that might be crap or never even come out.

    edit - If the game doesn't come out, I should be able to sue Valve for all the money I invested.

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    #20  Edited By nicolenomicon
    @CowMuffins said:
    " @SL33TBL1ND said:
    " @cspiffo said:
    " @SL33TBL1ND said:
    " @cspiffo said:
    " This just in.  Gabe newll invents the stock market.  Film at eleven. Seriously though.  If I were investing in a game, I'd want to know what I'd be getting for my investment.  Is is just the game? A portion of the profit?  A vote in how the company is run?  What on earth would I be getting for my money. "
    You get a percentage of profits, I think that's what he said during the GoodGame interview. But why all the hate to this idea? Funding them this money will make the games better as it gives them less constraints money wise. So you get money back for your investment and a better game than if nobody invested. "
    Oh, I'm not hating.  I just want to know more about it.  more skeptically curious than hateful. "
    I wasn't just talking about you. But I guess it is a good idea to be sceptical.

    @CowMuffins said:
    " A game called Interstellar Marines already uses this method. You can contribute $40 and get all three games in the series or $25 and get the first game in the series (if they ever come out). You also get beta access and a little icon next to your name on the forums saying that you helped the cause. "
    This is kind of different as you're more or less donating/pre-ordering the game. What Gabe is suggesting is that we invest and get a return from our investment. This does not necessarily mean you are buying the game. "
    No, it's what Gabe is talking about. You get a free copy of the game when it comes out, if you invest in it by donating. "
    That's not what he said. He didn't mention anything about free copies of games. He said it would be like "Hey I'm interested in this game so I'll give you $30 to get it moving forward". And I'm pretty sure he mentioned returns in the interview as well.
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    #21  Edited By Alex_Murphy

    Invest - to put (money) to use, by purchase or expenditure, in something offering potential profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value.

    I buy all their games, so I don't know what more support they can really expect from me. If people really wanted to invest in Valve, couldn't they just go buy Valve stock (is it publicly traded, or is Valve a private company?) instead of just giving them money?

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