Are people acually going to care about winning multiplayer games?

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#1 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -

In my opinion nobody cared about winning games in Gear's 1's multiplayer. All they cared about were getting thier achievements. Kills were stolen regulary, and multiple teamates would often get killed rushing for a weapon they needed kills with.

There was little to no reward for acually working as a team and winning games. Players cared more about themselves then everyone else. In this game will people acually care about winning? Or will it be the same selfish play as last game.

Maybe to help the cause they could add an achievement like winning 200 games or somthing.

Gears of War 2
Gears of War 2

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#2 Posted by sdodd02 (763 posts) -

Yeah, I wish there was some kind of ranking system.

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#3 Posted by veiledmuffin (215 posts) -

Aren't they adding matchmaking? If so, there should be ranks.

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#4 Posted by sdodd02 (763 posts) -

it's the true skill ranking thing.

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#5 Posted by banksrob (1140 posts) -

yea i dnt like gears multiplayer much, battlefield bad company has awesome multiplayer

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#6 Posted by Ma7moud (834 posts) -

Only 1 kill per match will count toward the achievement. for example if the achievement requires 200 kill with sniper and you got 20 kills with the sniper in the match it only counts as 1 kill.

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#7 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -
Sdodd412 said:
"it's the true skill ranking thing.
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Is that like in Halo where if your a general your put in games with other generals?
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#8 Posted by DARKIDO07 (926 posts) -
Player1 said:
"Sdodd412 said:
"it's the true skill ranking thing.
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Is that like in Halo where if your a general your put in games with other generals?"
Yes, and no. Tureskill is a behind the sense rank system that has little to do with your Military rank in games like Halo, but basically it pairs you up with people with similar Trueskill ranks as you.
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#9 Posted by MAV3R1CK (143 posts) -

It would be nice to add a ranking system because it could make the gameplay on multiplayer that much more exciting. However, thats not taking anything away from Gears 1 multiplayer.

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#10 Posted by Nemesis (330 posts) -

I think there should be no multiplayer achievements at all. Look at Call of Duty 4, one of the most played multiplayer games and does not have a single achievement for multiplayer.  I don't like the new system that Epic is placing though, with only one kill goes toward the achievement you are working for, counts per round.

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#11 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -
Nemesis said:
"I think there should be no multiplayer achievements at all. Look at Call of Duty 4, one of the most played multiplayer games and does not have a single achievement for multiplayer.  I don't like the new system that Epic is placing though, with only one kill goes toward the achievement you are working for, counts per round.
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Good point. Cod4 was critisised for not having achievements in the first place, but it ended up working out. I really do think the whole perk systems saved them though. It made people forget about achievements and gave them somthing to play for.

I have mixed feelings about the whole new achievement thing. In one sence if I guy sucks with sniper, but needs kills with it, then he wont be stealing it from the team every round. I think this will let players work as a team more. Hopfully
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#12 Posted by CVslyyyyyy (7 posts) -

I do not think that there is an actual number or military rank for the multiplayer...

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#13 Posted by Termite (2428 posts) -

Well I don't think pretty much all "Team" based multiplayer shooters actually use teamwork. Other than TF2 perhaps

So my answer, no

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#14 Posted by PaperPlain (253 posts) -

I just like getting kills fair and square. I never played much, but Warzone. I'm really not an "achievement whore".

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#15 Posted by Blu_Magic (2026 posts) -

I was an achievement whore when I first got the game but then I started to play alot of player matches. They're alot more enjoyable.

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#16 Posted by 45gergewf4545 (48 posts) -

I worked on my achievement but I never was a jerk about it. Some people just become too obsessed.

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#17 Edited by Player1 (4162 posts) -
Termite said:
"Well I don't think pretty much all "Team" based multiplayer shooters actually use teamwork. Other than TF2 perhaps

So my answer, no
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Right. But in this game people would purposely screw their teammates in order to help themselves get achievements. 
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#18 Posted by epic_pets (1345 posts) -

I alwas care about winning, I hate losing.

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#19 Posted by Peter_J (159 posts) -

This time the seriously achievement could be for games won instead of kills.

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#20 Posted by Nogert (148 posts) -

Definitely the problem with the last one is that achievements were for getting kills with a certain gun, so you would always get some idiot in a match using nothing but grenades, he would run around like an idiot trying to stick people, but fail every round causing you to lose the match because his lack of teamwork.

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#21 Posted by 45gergewf4545 (48 posts) -

What is worse than people being achievement junkies is quitters. You can't get into one ranked match without someone quitting in the first couple of rounds. It is really ridiculous.

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#22 Posted by Charles (103 posts) -

i still play Gears of War to this day,  almost every day. When I play people care about winning, cause achievements are pretty much done for everyone. In Gears 2 Epic fixed this where you can only get one kill point with each weapon per game.

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#23 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -
Peter_J said:
"This time the seriously achievement could be for games won instead of kills.
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wow that would change everything....everything. I would absolutely love that
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#24 Posted by Lost_In_Gaming (241 posts) -

First off, there will be achievements like in Gears 1, like getting 100 Boomshot kills, but you can only get 1 point towards it per match.  So, even if you get 10 Boomshot kills, it will only count 1 towards your achievement.  Second, there is going to be a party system.  Lastly, there are rankings in Gears 1; check the leaderboards.

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#25 Posted by Hulk (448 posts) -

Hulk played with and against plenty that wanted to win above all else, especially after everyone got their weapon achievements which didn't take long.  Once Seriously was all puny humans had left they tried their best to win.

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#26 Posted by pause422 (6325 posts) -

The way Gears 2 is doing multiplayer achievements now though is because of that shit most of you were talking about,so people don't just rush for weapons every game and go crazy the entire time,this way they can only get one,than they can either decide to leave the game(if thats all they're after) or play the game normally after that.

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#27 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -
Hulk said:
"Hulk played with and against plenty that wanted to win above all else, especially after everyone got their weapon achievements which didn't take long.  Once Seriously was all puny humans had left they tried their best to win.
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Dude you make good points...but I can barly stand to read you post because of this annoying first person thing. 
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#28 Posted by Hulk (448 posts) -
Player1 said:
"Hulk said:
"Hulk played with and against plenty that wanted to win above all else, especially after everyone got their weapon achievements which didn't take long.  Once Seriously was all puny humans had left they tried their best to win.
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Dude you make good points...but I can barly stand to read you post because of this annoying first person thing. "
Hulk care so much.   Really Player1.  Hulk care.
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#29 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -
Hulk said:
"Player1 said:
"Hulk said:
"Hulk played with and against plenty that wanted to win above all else, especially after everyone got their weapon achievements which didn't take long.  Once Seriously was all puny humans had left they tried their best to win.
"
Dude you make good points...but I can barly stand to read you post because of this annoying first person thing. "
Hulk care so much.   Really Player1.  Hulk care.
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haha ok. you make me laugh...your still fucking annoying though
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#30 Posted by shadowjak (474 posts) -

Most of the basic games are sometimes achievement whores trying. When you play a 19 round raven down game, no one cares about achievements. However, the kill stealing for achievements thing is now very very rare

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#31 Posted by OGCartman (4330 posts) -

Theyre should be an achivement to go 50 games without a teamkill
I hate TKers

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#32 Posted by Player1 (4162 posts) -
shadowjak said:
"Most of the basic games are sometimes achievement whores trying. When you play a 19 round raven down game, no one cares about achievements. However, the kill stealing for achievements thing is now very very rare"
Ive heard that, now that everyone has them its good. If my disk wasnt so fucked up id go back and try to play again. 
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#33 Posted by Subway (982 posts) -
Player1 said:
"Hulk said:
"Hulk played with and against plenty that wanted to win above all else, especially after everyone got their weapon achievements which didn't take long.  Once Seriously was all puny humans had left they tried their best to win.
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Dude you make good points...but I can barly stand to read you post because of this annoying first person thing. "
I think you mean third person.

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