HELP!!!

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#1 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

So the only Grand Theft Auto game I've really put any time into was GTA4. That means that I'm used to how GTA4 plays in terms of its gameplay. I recently bought GTA: San Andreas over Xbox Live because I want to experience that environment before I play GTA5. I like it so far but I'm running in to one problem that I hope people on here can help me with.

I'm specifically having problems with the shooting. Every time I play I try my best to hide behind cover but I'm having some issues. Is there anything resembling a cover system in here? How about body armor? Anything at all that would help me succeed? I'd even take simple strategies because I like the game but can't get around this shooting.

Thanks.

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#2 Posted by Marz (6017 posts) -

no cover system, though i do believe you can buy body armor later on.

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#3 Posted by DonPixel (2833 posts) -

It's kind of hard game at a times and Checkpoints are horrible, If you can I would advise to go with the PC version looks and plays way better plus is cheap as hell nowadays.

About the shooting be patient and use more skills there is no magic there.

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#4 Edited by TheDudeOfGaming (6117 posts) -

There is body armor, but no cover system, although you can crouch and "take cover" behind objects. Also, there's a cover system mod for San Andreas, but i guess that wouldn't do you much good. Anyway, just go for the headshots and try to take em out from a distance, the AI is pretty inaccurate as it is.

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#5 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@Marz: @DonPixel: @TheDudeOfGaming:

Cool, thanks for your help. It's a bummer because I like a lot of what this game is doing. I just have a hard time overcoming the bad shooting. I guess I'll try to force my way through it.

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#6 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6117 posts) -

@JasonR86: If it's that much of a problem you can always run people over instead of shooting them :P

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#7 Posted by devilzrule27 (1257 posts) -

Down, X, Right, Left, Right, R1, Right, Down, Up, Triangle

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#8 Posted by Enns (401 posts) -

You need to think of ways of breaking the mission your on. Like running dudes over, or jumping out of a car while crashing it into dudes. Killing guys from afar is helpful too. I can't really remember what they were but I think there were side missions that give you helpful stuff like more max health and armor.

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#9 Posted by ShaggE (8396 posts) -

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

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#10 Posted by redbliss (669 posts) -

There is no cover system. The combat in the old GTA games was not great, but it is not too bad so long as you remember to get full health and armor before missions. I would try to find the closest location where I could get armor, whether it was outside or in an ammunation, and I would just get that before every mission. If you do that the missions never become too tough.

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#11 Posted by FiestaUnicorn (1673 posts) -

Break into an airport and fly a plane to mount chiliad. Steal a bike and race it down a mountain. After you die go back to the airport you've already broken into steal another plane and go to Las Venturas. Of course you shouldn't land the plane you should jump out of it like a man.

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#12 Posted by Hizang (9358 posts) -
@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!
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#13 Posted by NegativeCero (3141 posts) -

Since you're literally the only person I've run into that has bought the game on Xbox Live, do the cheats still work as expected? I want to say the same, but since this is your first time playing it. Jetpack cheat saved me so much frustration in that game.

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#14 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@NegativeCero:

I have no idea if the cheats work or not. They should I imagine as I think this is just a direct port of the original Xbox game. I'll try some cheats and let everyone on here know.

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#15 Posted by ShaggE (8396 posts) -

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

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#16 Posted by awesomeusername (4606 posts) -

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

Fuck you for reminding me!

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#17 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@NegativeCero:

Cheats work with the Xbox Live version. Unlimited Health here I come!

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#18 Posted by SamFo (1658 posts) -
@JasonR86 don't do it dude
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#19 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@SamFo:

The shooting is awful dude. All I want to do is go around and do things. My pride isn't an issue here. My patience is.

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#20 Posted by CptChiken (2058 posts) -
@awesomeusername said:

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

Fuck you for reminding me!

Yeah seriously mate, why would you do that to us?! 
  
On subject i can remember that there isnt any cover system, your best bet is to rely on the fact that the AI cant shoot for shit in that game.
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#21 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@CptChiken said:

@awesomeusername said:

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

Fuck you for reminding me!

Yeah seriously mate, why would you do that to us?! On subject i can remember that there isnt any cover system, your best bet is to rely on the fact that the AI cant shoot for shit in that game.

They seem to do a really good job at shooting me.

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#22 Posted by avidwriter (704 posts) -

Wasn't there a lock on in GTA SA? If there is just lock on and strafe like a mofo.

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#23 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5726 posts) -
@ShaggE said:

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

And that's when I stopped playing the game! 
 
I really need to play through it someday.
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#24 Posted by SamFo (1658 posts) -

Am I the only human to finish the gta games without cheats? I thought they cheapened the experience! Plus you can't get 100% if you use cheats... I think

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#25 Posted by Getz (3764 posts) -

There is no "cover system" per se but crouching behind walls can save your butt in a few situations. Always go in to missions with full health and body armor, and maybe a little luck

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#26 Posted by NegativeCero (3141 posts) -

@SamFo: I think cheats are synonymous with the GTA games. I remember those old cheat books that were sold in the magazine sections would always have them. I didn't use them in GTA:IV because they discouraged it by locking achievements, but otherwise I don't think they hurt the play experience. I guess its just a matter of taste.

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#27 Edited by DonPixel (2833 posts) -

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

The shooting is way easier thou, San Andreas is from a time when developers didn't know how to make shooters on consoles.. specially 3rd person shooters.

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#28 Posted by Mikewrestler5 (638 posts) -
@Hizang said:
@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!
Those missions made me stop playing the game.
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#29 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@SamFo:

I personally don't care about 100%-ing the game. I just want to experience the world and the game and right now the shooting is getting in the way. Plus, I don't mind cheating. My time and patience is more important to me.

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#30 Posted by mosespippy (4751 posts) -

@JasonR86: In case you don't know, there are lots of good weapons near your house in grove street. There is a pistol near the bridge in the neighbourhood, armour under a nearby bridge, an uzi under another bridge, another uzi on the roof of the house next door, spray paint on the roof of the store behind your house, a shovel in Ryder's back yard and brass knuckles under the bridge that goes over the street that leads to the grove.

@SamFo: After playing through Vice City with cheats first I also think they ruin the experience. You can still 100% with cheats. I don't use cheats anymore though unless they are fun ones and only once I've finished the game. The 100ft bunny hop cheat is super fun. Hopping from roof to roof throughout Los Santos is really cool. Trying to get up to taller and taller buildings is like a whole new experience that you don't find without cheats.

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#31 Posted by AngelN7 (3001 posts) -

@SamFo said:

Am I the only human to finish the gta games without cheats? I thought they cheapened the experience! Plus you can't get 100% if you use cheats... I think

I did the same on the Xbox because putting the cheats was a pain , but completing the game without using them gives you a great sense of acomplishment even more knowing almost everyone use them , also I remember that game being easy as hell by the end you don´t really need any cheats the hardest mission in the game were the Zero ones and cheats are usless in those, and by the time you´re forced to regain the territories in the Gang wars I was already dual wielding the double barrel shotguns.

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#32 Posted by awesomeusername (4606 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@CptChiken said:

@awesomeusername said:

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

Fuck you for reminding me!

Yeah seriously mate, why would you do that to us?! On subject i can remember that there isnt any cover system, your best bet is to rely on the fact that the AI cant shoot for shit in that game.

They seem to do a really good job at shooting me.

I remember that game being a breeze. Then again, I used the health/money/armor cheat more then a tween using Facebook. But it was seriously easy because the enemies never moved around when shooting at you. Get a sniper and snipe them from far or use a sub machine gun. I don't know why it's so hard for you. Shoting was easy.

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#33 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

@awesomeusername said:

@JasonR86 said:

@CptChiken said:

@awesomeusername said:

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

Fuck you for reminding me!

Yeah seriously mate, why would you do that to us?! On subject i can remember that there isnt any cover system, your best bet is to rely on the fact that the AI cant shoot for shit in that game.

They seem to do a really good job at shooting me.

I remember that game being a breeze. Then again, I used the health/money/armor cheat more then a tween using Facebook. But it was seriously easy because the enemies never moved around when shooting at you. Get a sniper and snipe them from far or use a sub machine gun. I don't know why it's so hard for you. Shoting was easy.

...it's just because I'm just that bad at video games.

This thread is really fucking with my self-esteem man.

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#34 Posted by RE_Player1 (8010 posts) -

@ShaggE said:

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

I quit the game when I got to that point.

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#35 Posted by AlmostSwedish (863 posts) -

Play the superior PC-version instead. As far as I'm concerned, the three last-gen GTAs ar unplayable on console.

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#36 Posted by awesomeusername (4606 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@awesomeusername said:

@JasonR86 said:

@CptChiken said:

@awesomeusername said:

@ShaggE said:

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

Especially on PC. Piloting anything in GTA with a keyboard... terrible experience.

Fuck you for reminding me!

Yeah seriously mate, why would you do that to us?! On subject i can remember that there isnt any cover system, your best bet is to rely on the fact that the AI cant shoot for shit in that game.

They seem to do a really good job at shooting me.

I remember that game being a breeze. Then again, I used the health/money/armor cheat more then a tween using Facebook. But it was seriously easy because the enemies never moved around when shooting at you. Get a sniper and snipe them from far or use a sub machine gun. I don't know why it's so hard for you. Shoting was easy.

...it's just because I'm just that bad at video games.

This thread is really fucking with my self-esteem man.

Don't feel that way man. I'm kind of shitty in games. I'm sucky in multiplayer and I die at least 15 times after playing any game through on normal but I still enjoy games.

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#37 Posted by HandsomeDead (11853 posts) -

I'm sure you'll get better if you just stop playing for a while and pray instead.

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#38 Posted by yakov456 (2021 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@Marz: @DonPixel: @TheDudeOfGaming:

Cool, thanks for your help. It's a bummer because I like a lot of what this game is doing. I just have a hard time overcoming the bad shooting. I guess I'll try to force my way through it.

This is what I'm feeling right now with Vice City. When this came out I loved it and don't really remember having a problem with it but maybe GTA4 has soured me. Having a hell of a time with the shooting and it's so tedious to go and make sure I have body armor and loaded weapons before every single mission.

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#39 Posted by Double0hFor (416 posts) -

I also have GTA: SA on XBL and there's no problem for me, you forget SA was made in 2004 for the PS2 and not 2007 like GTA IV where game play mechanics changed drastically

also near the end of the game and haven't even touched Zero's missions, I REFUSE to buy his property

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#40 Posted by WrinklyDinosaur (501 posts) -

@SamFo said:

@JasonR86 don't do it dude
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#41 Posted by AlmostSwedish (863 posts) -

@Anwar: I think many would agree with me if they had given the PC-version a shot. That being said, unplayable is maybe a tad hyperbolic. There's lots of stuff to do that doesn't involve shooting.

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#42 Posted by innacces14 (759 posts) -

All you guys have to do is follow the damn train...

...CJ.

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#43 Posted by Simplexity (1430 posts) -

San Andreas shooting is pretty much crouching and spamming the aim button and rolling around, the AI is pretty terrible so the game isn't really all that hard imo.

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#44 Posted by AlexW00d (7479 posts) -

@Hizang said:

@ShaggE

You're going to LOVE Zero's missions. *evil grin*

Fuck those missions, FUCK them!

I still don't think I ever finished them.

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#45 Posted by innacces14 (759 posts) -

@Anwar: I reload every mission I bite. Train mission took me three tries, but Smoke's delivery of that line pretty much softened the blow. haha

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#46 Posted by MonetaryDread (2766 posts) -

The shooting is way easier in San Andreas than in GTA 4.  All you have to do is to lock on then hit R1 and L1 to switch between targets.  In San Andreas all you have to have is an m16 and you can just stand in the center of a tight alley, use the auto-lock on, and you are pretty much invincible.

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#47 Posted by awesomeusername (4606 posts) -

@Anwar said:

@awesomeusername said:

I used cheats to make the game easy and after that the game was just a breeze.

Amazing revelation you have here.

I never specifically wrote that but okay.

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#48 Posted by Apparatus_Unearth (3685 posts) -

Even with cheats this game is pretty challenging.

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