Jun's Ending *Major Spoilers*

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#1  Edited By jonny_eh

This thread will talk about the end of the game. Spoilers obviously. 
 
So Jun rides off with Dr. Halsley. What happens to him? Why is he absent from the events surrounding the Halos? As the only other surviving Spartan other than Master Chief, I'm surprised more isn't being said about him. Can you say sequel starring Jun?

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#2  Edited By The_Laughing_Man

There is a thread about the games ending all ready.  
 
Also he is not the only other spartan that is alive at that time. You might wanna study up on your Halo lore. 

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#3  Edited By Raymayne

He dies

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#4  Edited By Quipido

According to this
"According to the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition Developer Commentary, Jun is still alive. "

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#5  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
@Quipido said:
" According to this
"According to the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition Developer Commentary, Jun is still alive. " "
Ignore him. Hes just spamming. But there is a thread for this all ready. 
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#6  Edited By Quipido
@The_Laughing_Man: Oh, my bad... I actually tried to be helpfull.
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#7  Edited By jonny_eh
@Quipido said:

" @The_Laughing_Man: Oh, my bad... I actually tried to be helpfull. "

It's cool, The_Laughing_Man was saying that RayMayne was trolling, not you.  Your comment was most welcome!
 
I read through the thread posted but Jun isn't really discussed (just mentioned). As someone who isn't too familiar with Halo lore (beyond what's in Wikipedia and the 4 main games), does Jun appear in anywhere else? He's not heavily developed in Reach, but Bungie (or MS) must have chosen him as the (other) lone survivor for a reason. Can we look forward to Halo: Silent Scope edition?
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#8  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
@jonny_eh said:
" @Quipido said:

" @The_Laughing_Man: Oh, my bad... I actually tried to be helpfull. "

It's cool, The_Laughing_Man was saying that RayMayne was trolling, not you.  Your comment was most welcome! I read through the thread posted but Jun isn't really discussed (just mentioned). As someone who isn't too familiar with Halo lore (beyond what's in Wikipedia and the 4 main games), does Jun appear in anywhere else? He's not heavily developed in Reach, but Bungie (or MS) must have chosen him as the (other) lone survivor for a reason. Can we look forward to Halo: Silent Scope edition? "
O ya, Raymay has been trolling and spamming most of today. Jun does not die. 
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#9  Edited By Lukeweizer
@The_Laughing_Man said:
" There is a thread about the games ending all ready.   Also he is not the only other spartan that is alive at that time. You might wanna study up on your Halo lore.  "
Some of us have better things to do.
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#10  Edited By Moody_yeti
@Lukeweizer said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" There is a thread about the games ending all ready.   Also he is not the only other spartan that is alive at that time. You might wanna study up on your Halo lore.  "
Some of us have better things to do. "
Yeah like comment on a message board :-).
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#11  Edited By Jeffsekai
@Quipido said:
" According to this
"According to the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition Developer Commentary, Jun is still alive. " "
Also Jorge is alive.
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#12  Edited By Quipido

OK, all cool then. :)

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#13  Edited By Lukeweizer
@Jaded_Racoon said:
" @Lukeweizer said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" There is a thread about the games ending all ready.   Also he is not the only other spartan that is alive at that time. You might wanna study up on your Halo lore.  "
Some of us have better things to do. "
Yeah like comment on a message board :-). "
Or read about endings but not actually know anything about it. I didn't even see any Cortana stuff. I don't think I stuck around after the credits either.
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#14  Edited By dropbearGSH

So, for clarity's sake, there is no cutscene nor in game explanation of  how Jun dies?  I figured I just zoned out and missed it.

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#15  Edited By flufflogic
@Jeffsekai said:
" @Quipido said:
" According to this
"According to the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition Developer Commentary, Jun is still alive. " "
Also Jorge is alive. "
?!? 
 
Seriously? I thought what happened to him would be rather final!
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#16  Edited By Jeffsekai
@Lukeweizer said:
" @Jaded_Racoon said:
" @Lukeweizer said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" There is a thread about the games ending all ready.   Also he is not the only other spartan that is alive at that time. You might wanna study up on your Halo lore.  "
Some of us have better things to do. "
Yeah like comment on a message board :-). "
Or read about endings but not actually know anything about it. I didn't even see any Cortana stuff. I don't think I stuck around after the credits either. "
So you played the game with your eyes closed? It's kinda hard to miss. 
 
 
@flufflogic said:
" @Jeffsekai said:
" @Quipido said:
" According to this
"According to the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition Developer Commentary, Jun is still alive. " "
Also Jorge is alive. "
?!?  Seriously? I thought what happened to him would be rather final! "
Yup. He's with Master Chief.
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#17  Edited By flufflogic

Wow. That's kinda crazy.

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#18  Edited By inevpatoria

When you get a free second, you should check some of the wild and ridiculous conspiracy theories that've been cooked up over at the forums at Bungie.net. There are lots of users who seem to think Jun is the Master Chief, though that literally makes no sense. At all. 

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#19  Edited By Lukeweizer
@Jeffsekai said:
" @Lukeweizer said:
" @Jaded_Racoon said:
" @Lukeweizer said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" There is a thread about the games ending all ready.   Also he is not the only other spartan that is alive at that time. You might wanna study up on your Halo lore.  "
Some of us have better things to do. "
Yeah like comment on a message board :-). "
Or read about endings but not actually know anything about it. I didn't even see any Cortana stuff. I don't think I stuck around after the credits either. "
So you played the game with your eyes closed? It's kinda hard to miss. 
 
 
@flufflogic said:
" @Jeffsekai said:
" @Quipido said:
" According to this
"According to the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition Developer Commentary, Jun is still alive. " "
Also Jorge is alive. "
?!?  Seriously? I thought what happened to him would be rather final! "
Yup. He's with Master Chief. "
Hahahaha. I dunno. I just saw them talking about Reach and my sacrifice, and I was kinda like... Yeah, I know. I'll pay attention to the Legendary ending. I promise.
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#20  Edited By sparklykiss
@Sir_Ragnarok said:
" When you get a free second, you should check some of the wild and ridiculous conspiracy theories that've been cooked up over at the forums at Bungie.net. There are lots of users who seem to think Jun is the Master Chief, though that literally makes no sense. At all.  "
But it's always a nice comedic relief if you ask me. Kids are silly.
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#21  Edited By Teran
@flufflogic: 
 
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#22  Edited By Lies

CASTLE base (which is where Jun takes Halsey), is a major setting in the First Strike novel. First Strike is getting reissued with updates in December. I suspect we'll hear more of Jun then.
 
I also suspect that whole novel will be majorly revised, as the game essentially rewrote the whole battle of Reach as depicted in the book.

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#23  Edited By babblinmule
@Lies said:
"  I also suspect that whole novel will be majorly revised, as the game essentially rewrote the whole battle of Reach as depicted in the book. "
The way the game wrote it, there was no battle of reach ;p
 
And interesting, might have to pick First Strike up.... again. Although ive not read it since it came out years ago.
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#24  Edited By Azteck
@Lies said:
" CASTLE base (which is where Jun takes Halsey), is a major setting in the First Strike novel. First Strike is getting reissued with updates in December. I suspect we'll hear more of Jun then.  I also suspect that whole novel will be majorly revised, as the game essentially rewrote the whole battle of Reach as depicted in the book. "
.. I need this book. In fact. I should pick up the entire series of Halo novels.
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#25  Edited By TheFreeMan

There's a fair amount of Spartans that go with Chief on his mission in First Strike, but they were all Spartan IIs, if I recall correctly, so I don't know how they'd put Jun in there. Just write him in? Hmm.
 
Halo lore is so borked.

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#26  Edited By inevpatoria
@Teran said:
" @flufflogic: 
 
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#27  Edited By flufflogic

Oh, I understand the possibilities - it's just, well... 
 
As for Jun, isn't he in the revised book?

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#28  Edited By jonny_eh

Why would Bungie purposely have Jun survive requiring a revision to a book released years ago? Strikes me as odd. My money is on Jun being the protagonist of the next Halo game.

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#29  Edited By Teran
@Lies:   They are retconning the books?
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#30  Edited By DystopiaX
@jonny_eh said:
" Why would Bungie purposely have Jun survive requiring a revision to a book released years ago? Strikes me as odd. My money is on Jun being the protagonist of the next Halo game. "
Because Reach already contradicts with Fall of Reach/First strike so much that there would be a revision required anyway.
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#31  Edited By DystopiaX
@Teran said:
" @Lies:   They are retconning the books? "
They have to. *book spoilers* 
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#32  Edited By Teran
@Sir_Ragnarok said:
" @Teran said:
" @flufflogic: 
 
"
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@Teran:  
 
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#34  Edited By Death_Unicorn

Okay, when you are playing as Noble Six, and are about to die you spawn on a platform. If you turn around, I swear I see Jun's dead body. I'm pretty sure this is a glitch or something, but pretty cool, I think.

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#35  Edited By Hashbrowns
@DystopiaX:
The entire time-line in the novel is completely skewed from the game as well.  From the novel, the beginning of the invasion to the time that the Pillar of Autumn leaves is literally two hours.  The Limited Edition Halsey's journal tries to retcon this but it still doesn't jive. 
 
Heck, in the novel, Master Chief undergoes surgery to accomodate Cortana and meets her for the first time on August 29, 2552 and there is not word one about any Covenant activity on Reach; while at that same time in the game the entire Covenant fleet has already been there for 11 days at that point. 
 
Some pretty pathetic continuity control for a franchise with a purportedly extensive "story bible".  I don't blame Eric Nylund, he was just going by what they told him nearly a decade ago.
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#36  Edited By flufflogic

Aye, the books are pretty much out of the timeline now after the game. Seems silly to let that happen.

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#37  Edited By canucks23
@Death_Unicorn said:
" Okay, when you are playing as Noble Six, and are about to die you spawn on a platform. If you turn around, I swear I see Jun's dead body. I'm pretty sure this is a glitch or something, but pretty cool, I think. "
No, that's just a randomly generated spartan apparently, he had the EOD helmet when i saw him. Sometimes he has the same helmet as Jun, sometimes it's different. It's deff not the character himself though.
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#38  Edited By Lies
@flufflogic said:
" Aye, the books are pretty much out of the timeline now after the game. Seems silly to let that happen. "
Not to mention that they reissued Fall of Reach with updates A MONTH AGO without making any attempt to reconcile it with the game
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#39  Edited By niamahai
@Hashbrowns said:
" @DystopiaX: The entire time-line in the novel is completely skewed from the game as well.  From the novel, the beginning of the invasion to the time that the Pillar of Autumn leaves is literally two hours.  The Limited Edition Halsey's journal tries to retcon this but it still doesn't jive.   Heck, in the novel, Master Chief undergoes surgery to accomodate Cortana and meets her for the first time on August 29, 2552 and there is not word one about any Covenant activity on Reach; while at that same time in the game the entire Covenant fleet has already been there for 11 days at that point.  Some pretty pathetic continuity control for a franchise with a purportedly extensive "story bible".  I don't blame Eric Nylund, he was just going by what they told him nearly a decade ago. "
i think anything that was done with 343 is considered canon now (eg the Marvel comic books, hopefully not that anime collection)
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#40  Edited By Teran
@Hashbrowns:   Yeah Nylund actually fleshed out the universe more than any of the games did and I think is a large part of the reason why Reach is as good as it is... but I don't blame Bungie for retconning either.  Certain elements in their vision has changed significantly particularly in regards to the fight being less one sided.  The Humans are more than just punching bags for alien fodder which is a drastic departure from their portrayal in Halo 1-3.  I haven't played ODST.
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#41  Edited By Teran
@KingWilly said:
" @Teran:  
 
"
I was never a Mac gamer so I only got a glimpse of Marathon at a friends house.  I really doubt they would tie the two series together even if it was their original intent to build towards with the first Halo.  I think Bungie's uninvolvement with future Halo games all but eliminates that as a possibility.  People have been speculating about a Marathon and Halo connection since the first game... I'm personally holding out for a Myth - Halo connection as Myth and Myth 2 are still my favorite Bungie games to date.
 
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#42  Edited By TheChief117Jake
@Sir_Ragnarok:

I think it would be pretty obvious  what happed to Jun. Just to help out, Master Chief is not Jun! Jun has differnt armor, a different voice and he is a sparten III .Also the Chief  apears to be on board the pillar of autumn in the last mission on halo reach I don't think Jun would have the time to change his armor ,voice and cryogenically freeze him self in that time. Last of all WHY THE F*#K would bungie show Juns face if he was infact the Master Chief who's face they have been hiding in all the previous  halo games it makes no sence. And hope this coment gets out to all those people that think that Jun is the Chief beacuse he is not it's a stupid idea, just because he look sort of the same and has the same color armour dosent make him the chief.  

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