Weird animation....effect?

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#1  Edited By borodin

Is anyone else seeing a sort of blurring effect on character models in the game? It's really noticeable to me whenever I'm in third-person mode, your player model whenever moving starts to blur in a really odd way - it's kind of like the animation has been capped to a lower framerate and they've blurred it to try and make it less noticeable? It makes it hard to focus on and is maybe even contributing to a headache. Just me?

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#2  Edited By minotaka

yeah i know what you mean, i had it on my old SD tv during the beta...   was wanting to see if the HD made any differance. Definetly something to do with a lower capture rate.

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#3  Edited By Wes

It's just stylized motion blur. Looked good to me in HD, but I guess it could look weird on a standard def television.

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#4  Edited By wolf_blitzer85

I kinda noticed there was a crapload of motion blur on the quick look. Especially when they are in the drop-ships and the one next to them literally is covered in blur it almost looks like vaseline is smeared all over it.
 
Watched it in 720p if that matters, but it still looked really weird. I like some motion blur, but from the looks of things there might be a little too much. Of course it could look much different on a big fancy tv too, so I could be coming to a wrong conclusion about that.

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#5  Edited By NekuSakuraba

It has come out in the US already? O__O

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#6  Edited By The_JG_Man

Yeah, noticed this a fair bit. I didn't think it was too bad, but there seemed to be a few parts where it was perhaps a bit too strong. 
 
Noticed a couple of chugging moments during the campaign, or parts where it seems to have paused for a second or two. Bit disconcerting.

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#7  Edited By Lies

It's possible your TV has it's dynamic motion (something like that, can't remember the exact name) on, which can result in severe blurring like that. There was some blur during the beta I remember but that was fixed for ship, so it seem likely it's your TV.
 
Then again I have yet to see the game running on my TV so maybe it is just a weird bug in the game.

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#8  Edited By borodin
@Wes: I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, it happens in situations where there shouldn't be any traditional motion blur at all - for example in the cutscenes, fixed camera, just someone walking can produce the jittery/blurry effect (I'm playing on an HD tv also). Regardless I've been playing solidly for a good few hours and it's not stressing my eyes out any more so woop woop! 
 
EIDT: oh god, I just noticed it does it horrendously when you equip the gravity hammer and my eyes started hurting again :(
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#9  Edited By Cramsy

I don't have much of a problem with it

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#10  Edited By MikkaQ
@NekuSakuraba said:
" It has come out in the US already? O__O "
A lot of people get lucky and find it at a walmart for sale, or get it shipped early.  Happens with a lot of games. Saw a walmart selling MGS 4 PS3s a week before the game was out, really debated getting it.  
 
People on the east coast still have like 7 hours and 40 minutes or so to go. 
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#11  Edited By blackbird415

It is a motion blur effect. It is literally called motion blur. I don't have much of a problem with it other than being misused. It happens more and more because its an easy effect that in fact hide any blemishes of quality. It looks cool most of the time for me, but it can really be over done at times

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#12  Edited By xombi242
@borodin: Yeah. There's another thread on the blurring effect. It's really distracting now that everyone is talking about it. Especially in the cut scenes.
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#13  Edited By DoctorWelch

I thought it was intentional, is it not? The only times I was seeing it was in some like cut scenes and stuff and it looked like it was supposed to be there.

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#14  Edited By Brenderous

I noticed this in lots of the videos. It looks like the game engine tries to add a blur whenever something moves, but if you are moving along with it, it still blurs sometimes, which doesn't make sense. 
 
Watch the other pelican at the start of the first mission.

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#15  Edited By RiotBananas

A great example is if you're on Co-Op and you stand next to a friend, tap your stick to move slightly and their entire model blurs. 
 
I hate it.

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@Brenderous said:
Watch the other pelican at the start of the first mission. "
Falcon, not pelican.
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#17  Edited By Brenderous
@Agent47CSim2: DAMNIT
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#18  Edited By punk_beatzUK

Not a fan of this either. It looks really bad in some sections, especially on characters in cutscenes who aren't moving fast enough to warrant blurring.

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#19  Edited By ThePhantomnaut

It's ghosting.

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#20  Edited By borodin
@ThePhantomnaut: I'm not sure why you're telling us that?
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#21  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
@borodin said:

" @ThePhantomnaut: I'm not sure why you're telling us that? "

I am not sure if you're asking a question? But rude aside, it's a graphical trail effect outside motion blur.
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#22  Edited By borodin
@ThePhantomnaut: Well I really meant labelling it doesn't help answer; is it deliberate, why does it make my eyes hurt, what's it good for, why do some people notice and some not etc. etc. etc. Just saying "it's x" didn't really seem to be saying much of anything. I tried looking up ghosting as something distinct from motion blur and not to do with displays and didn't find anything either by the way so if you could elaborate a bit on that it would be cool - also, (not directed at you specifically) as a general point, I know what motion blur is and this is not that, or at least it's not like any implementation of it I've ever seen.
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#23  Edited By PrivateIronTFU

It's not a graphical trail effect. It's actually frames being blended together. You can notice it on the weapon animations. Especially the assault rifle.

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#24  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
@borodin said:
" @ThePhantomnaut: Well I really meant labelling it doesn't help answer; is it deliberate, why does it make my eyes hurt, what's it good for, why do some people notice and some not etc. etc. etc. Just saying "it's x" didn't really seem to be saying much of anything. I tried looking up ghosting as something distinct from motion blur and not to do with displays and didn't find anything either by the way so if you could elaborate a bit on that it would be cool - also, (not directed at you specifically) as a general point, I know what motion blur is and this is not that, or at least it's not like any implementation of it I've ever seen. "
I think I meant frame bending. The site elaborates on the issue (and during the beta) and I hope it clarifies anything.
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#25  Edited By borodin
@ThePhantomnaut: That's perfect thanks! Wow so it's an anti-aliasing thing? Personally I think I'd rather have some more jaggies :(
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#26  Edited By SpudBug

It's a solution for both aliasing and framerate drops. 
 
The alternative is lowered detail, closer clipping planes on environments, reduced AI, reduced effects, screen tearing, low framerate, or all of the above.

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