'This story doesn't make sense!'

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#1 Edited By Jacy

I noticed this sentiment while going through the comments of the recent trailer. Instead of simply saying 'This is a video game, guys! Get over it!' and posting it in the comments section, I figured I'd give you a somewhat detailed analysis of Korea, and why this back story is only slightly far fetched if it were to play out precisely as it was laid out in the video. If you want to skip to the part where I analyze the future junk, ctrl+f to the part that says 'Homefront Future (HFF): 2011'.

Korea, 1950

During this year, North and South Korea went to war. In short, this came about by two leaders that couldn't agree on a Korean government thanks to two foreign powers that decided they would meddle in affairs (USSR, USA, respectively). The Korean people were not asked if they wanted to unite, and it's arguable whether they would have or not (democratically), but one thing was for sure: Both of the new leaders certainly wished to rule a united Korean peninsula. After many small skirmishes and border raids along the 38th parallel (at the time, the border of North and South Korea), North Korea escalated the war, and unleashed a full invasion. South Korea was almost entirely eliminated, and pushed back to the south east of their country, until the United States stepped in. I won't go on about this war too much, as the details aren't important. What is important, though, is that the United States and South Korea barely won any land yet cemented a hatred for the United States in the North Korean people. Oh, and we're still at war with North Korea. At any time, either side could legally and justifiably break the cease-fire and attempt to attack the other side of the peninsula or, truly U.S. soil at any time.

North Korea, 1994

Up until this point, the leader of North Korea had been Kim Jong-Il's father, Kim Il-sung. Naturally, as it was Il-sung who started the Korean war, there was very little chance of peace in his life time. Unfortunately, this didn't change with Kim Jong-Il, and in fact relations soured even further in the next 15 years. Kim Jong-il not only was an aggressive military leader, he was also extravagant, and believed in grand projects dedicated to himself. In his life time, the people of North Korea suffered more than they ever had. No matter how much they suffered, though, Kim Jong-Il wasn't simply their leader, he was essentially their deity (as was his entire family, sons, brothers, and father). Very little is known about the inside doings of North Korea, but there has been no signs of rebellion within that country, regardless of how horrible conditions are within the country.

July 4th-October 9th, 2006

During this time period, Kim Jung-Il escalated testing their nuclear capabilities to varying degrees. From missile tests to an actual nuclear explosion, North Korea finally wasn't simply a dog with a loud bark, it now had teeth. Granted, the bite would still take awhile to work on, but it certainly wasn't going to stop working towards a fully nuclear capable Korea.

March 26th, 2010

The Republic of Korea's Cheonan, a Cruiser class Naval ship, was sunk off the coast of the Korean peninsula. The South Koreans are now blaming the North Koreans, while the North Koreans deny any involvement. The U.S. is pressuring the U.N. for action, and becoming far more hostile than usual (which certainly says something, given the less than lukewarm relationship they've always shared). All in all, it feels like war rhetoric on all sides, and while peace is still possible, it certainly isn't guaranteed (as always, of course). One thing is certain, though: Propaganda is sure to increase on all sides, and resentment will grow until one side decides enough is enough, and either tries for true peace. Or breaks the ceasefire.

HOMEFRONT FUTURE (HFF): 2011

North Korea continues to increase it's weapons production. This isn't far fetched in the least. After all of this rhetoric about pressuring the North Koreans and the need to be more strict with them, Kim Jung-Il will naturally try to 'defend' himself by creating an arms-length between him and South Korea. He does this with missiles and guns, plain and simple.

HFF: 2012-2013

Kim Jung-Il dies. Again, reasonable. He's been ill (hah) the past few years with various ailments, so much as to be out of the public eye (something he absolutely lives for) for months at a time. Kim Jong-Un (the actual heir to North Korea at the moment, had to wiki it honestly as all the names blur together), takes his place as a charasmatic young political figure in North Korea. He has a dream of uniting the country, and after a hard and deep world wide recession that is blamed on the Capitalist system, Communism and Socialism will be more appealing to citizens across the world. Now, with an ideal that South Koreans can stand behind, two military forces that are strong divided, but world class united, and a leader willing to show them a united future, everything is lined up for one Korea once more. (This next part I'm adding as a hypothetical to explain why other nations would stay out of Korea's business, among other things) Elsewhere in the world, new leadership in Russia aligns them with China, causing the Chinese-Russian Trade Allegiance, or CRTA (ser-tuh). This new treaty, bred by a united hatred for the west, allows China to get 25% higher prices for it's goods (when selling to Russia) while promising 30% of their national output dedicated towards Russian government products as well as joint military projects for the two allies. In the United States, the apparent loss of the Afghan-Pakistani war has hit the countries morale hard, and a united Taliban government in the region has caused America's military capabilities to be put under question. Not since 9/11 has their been such bold Islamic extremists in the world, and America's security is once again being tested.

HFF: 2015-2018

The United States is in turmoil thanks to a second Depression that followed a double dip recession. The dollar's value has plummeted, and the faith the world once had in America's economic value has failed. Investors begin to use other currencies available, such as the Euro, Yin, possibly Yuan... or perhaps even a new Korean or OPEC currency, and the dollar's demise becomes certain. That only aggravates the U.S. economy and its political power even further, and the U.S. can no longer maintain military superiority around the world. They are forced to retreat from their World War 2 bases in Japan and return them to closer, less costly bases such as Hawaii or Monterrey, CA. After this, the Koreans make a swift move to capture Japan. The Japanese, now facing a Korea backed not only by China but by Russia as well, not to mention their absent U.S. allies, surrenders after a small ground invasion of it's Western coast by Korean forces. Elsewhere in the world, China is at war with Afghanistan while crushing Islamic insurgencies in it's Western provinces. Any objection they may have towards the war with Japan (while incredibly limited and based purely on a fear of a stronger Korea) is entirely muted thanks to their own exhausting battle with the same Islamic groups America had lost to just 6 years ago, after being hunkered down for 11 years in the country.

HFF: 2022-2025

The second Great Depression is in full swing. Americans are living in a state of poverty and fear, while Korea, backed (and now even feared) by the Chinese and Russians, have annexed much of South-East Asia. The countries, persuaded by both fear and a desire to be part of something monumental, are falling swiftly and without much need for military persuasion. The few nations that do fight back... do not last long. The Korean Space Agency has made leaps and bounds since the annexation of Japan, and Korea is launching it's next generation communications satellite. This satellite turns out to be a new space age EMP weapon. The U.S. military, after updating most of it's ground based communications during the early 2010's, is almost entirely in the dark. Hawaii falls, and very small parts of the west coast are under siege. The U.S. military, while slow to begin their defense, are finally beginning to learn how to operate in a more agile, guerrilla like manner. Some of the lessons Generals learned in Afghanistan are reversed, and used against the Korean invaders. Now, with nothing left to lose, the U.S. prepares to fight on it's HOME, FRONT. See how that all works?

Now, I know some of this sounds insane, and this won't happen more than likely. However, as a story, it does make sense. We don't know how politics, economy and technology will advance and morph over the next 13 years. If they did happen this way, though, there's a chance it could happen. Is it a grim future? Of course, but most evil empires are born through very dark and grim circumstances, typically through the fall of larger, formerly more powerful nations. It's how evolution works, and I understand that change and evolution is scary, but it is also inevitable. Should these events happen, however impossibly unlikely that is, know that if the U.S. is in fact better than Korea, we'll win in the end! Yay! Until then, though, this is just a hypothetical story to a game that brings back great memories of Freedom Fighters. Let's leave it at that.

Or! You can argue anything I said here, and (up until a point) I'll try to respond with the most logical response possible.

Enjoy the morning/day/evening! :D

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#2 Edited By Nasos100

wow

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#3 Edited By light_grenade

im impressed

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#4 Edited By Jadeskye

@Jacy: Pretty damn impressive. You put a lot of work into this.

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#5 Edited By gosukiller

I didn't expect to read all this, but I did. Good read.

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#6 Edited By ryanwho

Why people would analyze a game that will probably come and go as quickly as Frontline: Fuels of War did to this extent is baffling.

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#7 Edited By Jacy

@ryanwho: Some enjoy sports, others enjoy programming, I enjoy writing and thinking up scenarios like this. It was fun to write, so why not? Thanks for the kind words from most :)

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#8 Edited By FluxWaveZ

Dude, this is pretty freaking cool! Nice job analyzing this stuff. But, as the other big North American country, would Canada have anything to do with this story or would they (we) just ignore everything going on in the States and hope the koreans wouldn't invade them (us) or something.

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#9 Edited By Oldirtybearon

Most people forget Canada is a separate country, so I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't mentioned anywhere.

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#10 Edited By Jacy

@FluxWaveZ: I'd say like most conflicts, Canada would back whoever their main supporter/ally is of the time. If, and there's very little reason to believe it would not be, America is still their closest supporter and Ally outside of the United Kingdom, and given the fact both nations have a vested interest in having North America Korean free, I'd imagine they'd at the very least send some sort of weaponry aid. As far as getting involved in the war directly, you guys would more than likely allow anything one state down from Canada to be America's fight. Not to say Canada's military isn't capable, you're just simply a much smaller nation and can't take as large of risks militarily in a conflict that doesn't directly threaten you at that very moment.

Of course, Canada has gone much further than California to defend America's and the west's interest, so depending on the leader... you never know.

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#11 Edited By LaSpaceTuna

I know this thread is a little old but...North Korea's military is falling apart, they can't even feed their own people. North Korean children are on average about 8 inches shorter than their South Korean brethren. North Korean guards on the DMZ have to watch each other to make sure they don't just run across and defect. The first part of fictionalized history talking about a massive DPRK weapons build up is extremely far fetched even before we start getting into them taking over South Korea and Japan. I don't even see a scenario where they get to that point. Also the Deer Leader's son is fat, so that's strike 2 against plausibility. (thats a joke)
Having said that, I like the game's fiction, it's stupidly unrealistic in a way that just makes it awesome :)

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#12 Edited By deactivated-589cf9e3c287e

@SpacePolice21: Just switch North Korea with China then, and it will seem more plausible. Since both countries are communist (excluding the capitalistic front that is Hong Kong) I could see them forming an alliance. "Workingmen of all countries, unite!" and all that.

@Jacy: This only makes me more excited for this game, I hope this one takes the throne from Call of Duty. Thanks, you are awesome!

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#13 Edited By SpliTTMark

@Jacy said:

"Any objection they may have towards the war with Japan (while incredibly limited and based purely on a fear of a stronger Korea) is entirely muted thanks to their own exhausting battle with the same Islamic groups America had lost to just 6 years ago, after being hunkered down for 11 years in the country. "

whom is the they/their here? china/Russia?

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#14 Edited By DystopiaX

@SpacePolice21 said:

" I know this thread is a little old but...North Korea's military is falling apart, they can't even feed their own people. North Korean children are on average about 8 inches shorter than their South Korean brethren. North Korean guards on the DMZ have to watch each other to make sure they don't just run across and defect. The first part of fictionalized history talking about a massive DPRK weapons build up is extremely far fetched even before we start getting into them taking over South Korea and Japan. I don't even see a scenario where they get to that point. Also the Deer Leader's son is fat, so that's strike 2 against plausibility. (thats a joke) Having said that, I like the game's fiction, it's stupidly unrealistic in a way that just makes it awesome :) "

Given the recent shelling thing, and how even China said they wouldn't support all out agression, indicates that none of this is possible. The russia-china alliance is already far fetched, the fact that NK could possibly conquer SK/Japan alone (because given recent events they would be alone) indicates that past Kim jong il dying none of this shit makes sense.
also, China defeating Al-Qaeda/Muslim extremist forces is equally hard to accept given that they would essentially be in the same position the US Is in now- large power/advanced military facing an insurgency that one cannot stamp out due to its hydra-like structure (hard to behead leadership, grass-roots combatants)

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#15 Edited By TiE23

So where is the rest of the world during this time? Also, Afghani-Pakistan war? Have you ever heard of India?!

Socialism and Communism rose only because Germany fucked up so many countries in WWII that Russia got to move in and expand the USSR. Since the fall of Communism (around the fall of the Berlin wall -- Germany's split being somewhat similar to Korea's), the last remaining Communist strongholds have lost their potency (China just wants to become prosperous... and to invade Taiwan and to keep Tibet).

Anyway, sure, North Korea has had some strides in trying to get the South's people to their side, but that was only in the 70s and 80s and stuff, when South Korea was not much better off than North Korea, and was under a dictatorship until Park Chung-hee was assassinated in 1979... Since then South Korea has become the second Japan with this crazy level of success and technology, and have grown to fucking HATE the North's government.

In short, South Korea would never fall to Communism through assimilation, only through invasion -- which would never happen if the US, UK, Canada, Germany, Japan, Australia, France, Italy, Philippines, India, and hell, possibly even Russia and China had anything to say about it. If the North and South ever reunified, it would be under South Korea... in a way, having the North be the leader here would be like if suddenly Canada and the USA joined together (funny, I know) in peace, and the resulting country was called the "United Peoples of Canada" and was run under the Canadian flag. South Korea has double the population, and they're not starving.

Anyway blah blah blah. Long story short: Never in a million years would anything you said would come true. Need I remind you that they don't have tractors, cars, gas, food, internet, cellphones, or electricity? All they have are concentration camps.

Quote from a book I'm reading on my Kindle about the story of Shin Sang-ok and Choi Eun-hee.

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Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader: North Korea and the Kim Dynasty (Bradley K. Martin)
- Highlight Loc. 8116-21 | Added on Thursday, December 02, 2010, 09:32 AM

Kim [Jong-il] held a party for the couple and there he astonished them by apologizing for having kept each of them in the dark about the reasons for the kidnapping and the whereabouts of the other. The date was March 7, 1983, and presumably Kim knew that it was the twenty-ninth anniversary of their original marriage. “Please forgive me,” Kim said to them. “I was just playing a role.” Kim got drunk during the party and sang South Korean songs (-which were forbidden to his subjects). He showed some documentary films in which citizens displayed adulation toward him. When Shin complimented him on the people’s evident devotion, Kim replied: “It’s all a lie. They’re just pretending to praise me.”

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#16 Edited By McGhee

This game reminds me of Red Dawn, so I don't care how unlikely it is. I hope it's a good game.

WOLVERINES!

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#17 Edited By joeybagad0nutz

Good job. Very interesting read.

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#18 Edited By Gunner

I for one welcome our new North Korean overlords.

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#19 Edited By stinky

" We don't know how politics, economy and technology will advance and morph over the next 13 years. "

true, wont argue there.  n fact i agree too much which leads me to...
why write out all of those paragraphs of garbage before this then?
all to end in it doesn't matter, we can't predict the future.

its a work of fiction by an author who likes to go with the idea of "what if the US was invaded."
good premise as its a scary idea that can lead to a wide variety of stories.

last time with Red Dawn it was Russia and Cuba, with his new movie its supposed to be the new enemy of China.
not sure why he went with North Korea in this game though.

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#20 Edited By Gunner

@stinky said:

" " We don't know how politics, economy and technology will advance and morph over the next 13 years. " true, wont argue there. n fact i agree too much which leads me to...why write out all of those paragraphs of garbage before this then? all to end in it doesn't matter, we can't predict the future. its a work of fiction by an author who likes to go with the idea of "what if the US was invaded." good premise as its a scary idea that can lead to a wide variety of stories.last time with Red Dawn it was Russia and Cuba, with his new movie its supposed to be the new enemy of China. not sure why he went with North Korea in this game though. "

Because its fun and interesting to make 'what if?' scenarios. Like what if Napoleon waited for the ground to dry out before launching his attack in waterloo? would he have won? what would happen if he won waterloo? its just something thats interesting to think about.

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#21 Edited By LaSpaceTuna

@Gunner said:

" @stinky said:
" " We don't know how politics, economy and technology will advance and morph over the next 13 years. " true, wont argue there. n fact i agree too much which leads me to...why write out all of those paragraphs of garbage before this then? all to end in it doesn't matter, we can't predict the future. its a work of fiction by an author who likes to go with the idea of "what if the US was invaded." good premise as its a scary idea that can lead to a wide variety of stories.last time with Red Dawn it was Russia and Cuba, with his new movie its supposed to be the new enemy of China. not sure why he went with North Korea in this game though. "
Because its fun and interesting to make 'what if?' scenarios. Like what if Napoleon waited for the ground to dry out before launching his attack in waterloo? would he have won? what would happen if he won waterloo? its just something thats interesting to think about. "

This is more along the lines of "what if Napoleon invented jet-packs at Waterloo and his newly created French Rocketeers Brigades launched a airborne raid of Parliament causing the surrender of the Britain and all of Europe to come under his control"? Fuckin' Magnets!

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#22 Edited By dudacles

I applaud you, and agree with your sentiments.

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By the year 2027, the North Koreans have managed to unify Korea, annex Japan, and also invade the western half of the United States. As an American rebel fighter, it is the player's duty to help push the NPA out of the United States and end the citizens' suffering.

'This story doesn't make sense!'

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