Two more lead employees have left Infinity Ward.

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#1 Edited by Apathylad (3234 posts) -

Details are sketchy, but Kotaku reports that  lead designer Todd Alderman and lead software engineer Francesco Gigliotti  have left the company last week. Not much information is given, but Kotaku believes that they may have resigned. After that dismissal from heads West and Zampella, this could be a continuation of the Infinity Ward developers upset at the way Activision runs things.
 
If you haven't already done so, I recommend reading the complaint that was filed after West and Zampella's dismissal. It gave some details on some of Activision's alleged tactics, such as interrogating the Infinity Ward employees when they have the two IW heads under investigation.
 
 http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=14024&game_id=6192#img150852

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#2 Posted by Skytylz (4137 posts) -

Investigation team Go! 
 
Second time I got to bust that out today!

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#3 Posted by DystopiaX (5693 posts) -

The only reason I care is that all the top IW people may create their own bitchin dev studio. If not, then w/e. 
 
On an unrelated note, didn't buy the Stimulus Package and won't buy CoD7, CoD8, or CoD action adventure bullshit.

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#4 Posted by Relys (1001 posts) -

1. Small studio puts out unique and fun games.
 
2. Small studio gets acquired by large company and quality of games decline.
 
3. Huge scandal and disgruntled employees leave to form another small company.
 
4. Cycle continues.

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#5 Posted by DystopiaX (5693 posts) -
@Relys said:
" 1. Small studio puts out unique and fun games.  2. Small studio gets acquired by large company and quality of games decline.  3. Huge scandal and disgruntled employees leave to form another small company.  4. Cycle continues. "
small studio was actually not independent or bought out. They left from EA (they all made medal of honor games) to create a clone for activision that ended up being better.
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#6 Posted by Skytylz (4137 posts) -
@Relys said:
" 1. Small studio puts out unique and fun games.  2. Small studio gets acquired by large company and quality of games decline.  3. Huge scandal and disgruntled employees leave to form another small company.  4. Cycle continues. "
Both Modern Warfares are of extremely high quality.
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#7 Posted by AltonBrown (1007 posts) -

  Francesco Gigliotti is a great name. If they start a new studio, they should name it Gigliottisoft. 

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#8 Posted by Relys (1001 posts) -
@Skytylz said:
" @Relys said:
" 1. Small studio puts out unique and fun games.  2. Small studio gets acquired by large company and quality of games decline.  3. Huge scandal and disgruntled employees leave to form another small company.  4. Cycle continues. "
Both Modern Warfares are of extremely high quality. "
Replace quality with originality, or generic over the top bullshit if you must.
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#9 Posted by JJOR64 (19686 posts) -

Hmm...  I wonder if anymore of them will leave.  Either way, I hope they can find a better place to work.

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#10 Posted by AhmadMetallic (19301 posts) -
@Skytylz said:
" Investigation team Go!   Second time I got to bust that out today! "
haha im happy for you. 
 
And im glad IW is going down to shit.
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#11 Posted by Jimbo (10472 posts) -

I doubt something new has happened to upset them.  More likely that West and Zampella are now in a position to offer (the best of) their old crew a place to go if they want out.
 
I'm pretty much actively avoiding Activision products at this point.

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#12 Posted by AjayRaz (12813 posts) -

SHIT'S GETTIN REAL 

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#13 Posted by zudthespud (3332 posts) -

Good. I hope everyone leaves and the next IW project is a total flop.

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#14 Posted by ninjakiller (3427 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:
" SHIT'S GETTIN REAL  "
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#15 Posted by citizenkane (10879 posts) -

They should all form a new company that will be better than their last one.
 
Like another certain group of people...

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#16 Posted by Bionicicide (1230 posts) -

3rd time's the charm.

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#17 Posted by s7evn (1067 posts) -

Well, I foresee more departures in Infinity Wards future.

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#18 Posted by AlwaysAngry (3004 posts) -

Hmm...maybe it will change things up a bit in the next MW, which will be nice.

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#19 Posted by nanikore (2755 posts) -
@Skytylz said:
" @Relys said:
" 1. Small studio puts out unique and fun games.  2. Small studio gets acquired by large company and quality of games decline.  3. Huge scandal and disgruntled employees leave to form another small company.  4. Cycle continues. "
Both Modern Warfares are of extremely high quality. "
The second one wasn't all that great.
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#20 Posted by lockwoodx (2531 posts) -

They won't be able to make games that directly compete with activision for years... this is the end for a long while.

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#21 Edited by Korne (640 posts) -
@Buzzkill said:

"They won't be able to make games that directly compete with activision for years... this is the end for a long while. " 
 



For a while, but they can still make some great FPS, and what publisher wouldn't back the ex-heads of IW? With their past successes (even without Activision), they are surely going to be given the amount of money they need to develope the games they want.    
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#22 Posted by lockwoodx (2531 posts) -
@Korne: You realize the two head infinity ward guys got new jobs in nothing that's related to making video games? So no, they still can't make great FPS games for a long while.
 
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27672/Fired_Infinity_Ward_Heads_West_Zampella_Sign_With_Creative_Artists_Agency.php  
 
 

Jason West and Vince Zampella, the recently-fired heads of Activision-owned Modern Warfare studio Infinity Ward, have signed up with Creative Artists Agency, according to a report in the L.A. Times' Company Town blog.

Zampella and West agreed to be represented by Hollywood's biggest talent agency as they begin their post-Infinity Ward lives after being recently fired by parent company Activision, which alleged insubordination and breach of contract. The two subsequently filed a $36 million lawsuit against the publisher for wrongful termination and breach of contract. 

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#23 Posted by Bionicicide (1230 posts) -
@Buzzkill said:
" @Korne: You realize the two head infinity ward guys got new jobs in nothing that's related to making video games? So no, they still can't make great FPS games for a long while.
 
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27672/Fired_Infinity_Ward_Heads_West_Zampella_Sign_With_Creative_Artists_Agency.php  
 
 

Jason West and Vince Zampella, the recently-fired heads of Activision-owned Modern Warfare studio Infinity Ward, have signed up with Creative Artists Agency, according to a report in the L.A. Times' Company Town blog.

Zampella and West agreed to be represented by Hollywood's biggest talent agency as they begin their post-Infinity Ward lives after being recently fired by parent company Activision, which alleged insubordination and breach of contract. The two subsequently filed a $36 million lawsuit against the publisher for wrongful termination and breach of contract. 

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That's not a job. They're just being represented so in their next contract they don't get screwed by lawyers.
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#24 Posted by End_Boss (3363 posts) -

Unsurprising. I imagine we'll see a lot more Infinity Ward employees jump ship in the coming weeks.

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#25 Posted by Korne (640 posts) -
@Buzzkill said:
" @Korne: You realize the two head infinity ward guys got new jobs in nothing that's related to making video games? So no, they still can't make great FPS games for a long while.
 
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27672/Fired_Infinity_Ward_Heads_West_Zampella_Sign_With_Creative_Artists_Agency.php  
 
 

Jason West and Vince Zampella, the recently-fired heads of Activision-owned Modern Warfare studio Infinity Ward, have signed up with Creative Artists Agency, according to a report in the L.A. Times' Company Town blog.

Zampella and West agreed to be represented by Hollywood's biggest talent agency as they begin their post-Infinity Ward lives after being recently fired by parent company Activision, which alleged insubordination and breach of contract. The two subsequently filed a $36 million lawsuit against the publisher for wrongful termination and breach of contract. 

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You do realize that the agency also deals with video game developers. Hollywood sees video games as the next new frontier, and Creative Artists Agency deals with Computor graphic jobs, like movies and video games. Sure, West and Zampella could work on a film... but they know video games, and are proven in video games, so I suspect they will continue to create video games. But hey, they could prove me wrong.
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#26 Posted by ShaunassNZ (2233 posts) -

Fuck companies are turning fucked in the brain.

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#27 Posted by ShaunassNZ (2233 posts) -
@CitizenKane said:
" They should all form a new company that will be better than their last one.  Like another certain group of people... "
What so you can be their Mod too? Jks.
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#28 Posted by citizenkane (10879 posts) -
@ShaunassNZ said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" They should all form a new company that will be better than their last one.  Like another certain group of people... "
What so you can be their Mod too? Jks. "
Have at you, sir!
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#29 Posted by evanbrau (1178 posts) -

Its a shame to see Infinity Ward going down like this (despite what all the whining babies and trolls say about their recent games) but I'm sure a new company will appear consisting of most of these people to make something great while the CoD series turns into being a shitty Treyarch or worse game every year instead of every second year.

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#30 Posted by ShaunassNZ (2233 posts) -
@CitizenKane said:
" @ShaunassNZ said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" They should all form a new company that will be better than their last one.  Like another certain group of people... "
What so you can be their Mod too? Jks. "
Have at you, sir! "
I don't want to see the end of this, but I HAVE TO GO NOW son.
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#31 Posted by Lamashtu (325 posts) -

I can't help but notice that that Giglotti fellow (or something or other) was not only the lead designer of the multiplayer portion, but also the lead visionary for the story. 
 
The total loss of the former is certainly debateable, as the multiplayer alternates between being totally awesome and totally ass. But for the latter, it is unquestionably an improvement. If anything without him directing the story, the narrative for MW3 can only get better.
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#32 Posted by MAN_FLANNEL (2472 posts) -
@Buzzkill said:
" @Korne: You realize the two head infinity ward guys got new jobs in nothing that's related to making video games? So no, they still can't make great FPS games for a long while.
 
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27672/Fired_Infinity_Ward_Heads_West_Zampella_Sign_With_Creative_Artists_Agency.php  
 
 

Jason West and Vince Zampella, the recently-fired heads of Activision-owned Modern Warfare studio Infinity Ward, have signed up with Creative Artists Agency, according to a report in the L.A. Times' Company Town blog.

Zampella and West agreed to be represented by Hollywood's biggest talent agency as they begin their post-Infinity Ward lives after being recently fired by parent company Activision, which alleged insubordination and breach of contract. The two subsequently filed a $36 million lawsuit against the publisher for wrongful termination and breach of contract. 

"
That isn't a job.  That means they hired a talent agency to get them a job.
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#33 Posted by kingkorn69 (340 posts) -

I hope they all go back to work on Medal of Honor

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#34 Posted by JoelTGM (5784 posts) -

Activision is my enemy.

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#35 Posted by Alphazero (1645 posts) -
@Buzzkill said:
" They won't be able to make games that directly compete with activision for years... this is the end for a long while. "
Yeah. Getting the top people is great, for sure. People make the games. Unfortunately, they also have nearly ten years of code base that they have to walk away from. That takes a while to recreate and polish.
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#36 Posted by Talesavo (144 posts) -

Let's hope the rest of IW's top-tier talent walks out as well, watching Activision self-implode is probably the best thing that can happen to this industry.

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#37 Posted by EvolutionX0 (413 posts) -
@nanikore: Yeah well its not as great as its predecessor, but it wasn't a bad game at all.  Maybe it could of been much better if Actvision didn't fuck around with them, but that's just me.
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#38 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8504 posts) -
@Buzzkill said:
" They won't be able to make games that directly compete with activision for years... this is the end for a long while. "
Huh?  How so?  If the West and Zampella lawsuit turns out in their favour then it will be Activision who will be struggling to release any modern day COD games, moreover while it's in court process, W & Z's legal team will block Modern COD production and release via injunctions until the case is decided. If their legal team are any good that is.
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#39 Posted by lockwoodx (2531 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow:  This is what I was implying...
 


Non-compete agreements are becoming an increasingly popular way for employers to try to limit employees and former employees from working for a competitor, or from divulging trade secrets or other proprietary data.

Contrary to common misperceptions, courts will uphold non-compete clauses if they comply with acceptable standards. Enforcement against an employee can be both by damages and by an injunction that prohibits the employee from engaging in conduct that violates a non-compete clause.

An employer also can be held liable for hiring an employee who violates a non-compete agreement with a previous employer. In some cases, employers can recover damages from both the former employees and their new employers who collaborate with them in the transgressions.

However, some states impose substantial restrictions on the enforceability of non-compete clauses. In California, for example, they may not be enforceable at all. In New York, their enforceability is quite limited.

Most non-compete agreements are entered into with little, if any, negotiation between the employer and the employee. They usually are signed at the outset of an employment relationship where the employee may have very little bargaining power and when the employee is generally not too concerned about limitations on future employability when beginning a new job.

But when an employee decides to leave a job, the non-compete agreement may be a significant impediment to future employment or may prevent employees from becoming self-employed.


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