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    Kinect is a camera and depth sensor-based peripheral for the Xbox 360 that allows users to interact with and play games using their whole bodies, rather than using a standard controller.

    Microsoft Store Lists Kinect at $149

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    #51  Edited By Donos

    Why would I buy Natal when I can just buy two games I actually want for the same price?

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    #52  Edited By FritzDude

    $149 make sense. You get everything in one box. - 2 player (or more?), voice and motion tracking etc. I believe you will get a higher number with all of these features with the Playstation Move.

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    #53  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @FritzDude said:
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    $149 make sense. You get everything in one box. - 2 player (or more?), voice and motion tracking etc. I believe you will get a higher number with all of these features with the Playstation Move.

    "
    Its been said It can only track 2 people. Also as of now Ive heard it does not work wile you are sitting. 
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    #54  Edited By OmegaPirate
    @FluxWaveZ: Yeah i know , was kind of a dumb sweeping statement - i'm just kind of underwhelmed by Kinect as a whole - 
     its gone from 'pie in the sky' fever dream last year, to basically nothing like its original concept this year (read, is mini game friendly but without anything to hold)  
    I mean i agree that the technical feats that may be achievable with it are enticing - but this is the result of them having to take shit OUT of the hardware and shift the load onto the 360 processor which has led to the release of it in this state - i can't see them wanting to push it harder any time soon, 
    Now the only reason I could think of wanting the damn thing after Microsofts Dismal conference showing was the ability to  
    have my own 'minority report' moments - however once again it was nowhere near as slick and seamless as it should be - instead of swift hand movements, it became the wii menu navigation but you have to hold your hand still for 3 seconds instead of pushing a button - hardly a revolution here. 
     And since that conference every piece of news released has continued to underwhelm - From the inability to use it sitting / lying down to the horrendous entry price point Kinect has literally fell at every hurdle for me, and as such i really don;t thnik my controller is $150 worth of antiquated tech just yet,
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    #55  Edited By Phished0ne
    @The_Laughing_Man:  yeah but their gonna fix the not sitting down thing right?  i mean they have to figure they might as well not even release it if you  cant sit down while using it.
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    #56  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @Phished0ne said:
    " @The_Laughing_Man:  yeah but their gonna fix the not sitting down thing right?  i mean they have to figure they might as well not even release it if you  cant sit down while using it. "
    Who knows. It is said it tracks your skeleton. That is all I really know about how it tracks. 
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    #57  Edited By warchief

    Epic fail. I just picked up an Arcade console new for the same price. 

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    #58  Edited By Death_Burnout

    599 US Dollars, Whoops!

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    #59  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @OmegaPirate: Yep, I agree with all of that.  I was more enthusiastic about it before all of this news concerning it, but hopefully there'll be plenty of software that use Kinect in fun and unique ways in the future.  But 150$ is still a lot of money to put down before purchasing any of those games, so I doubt I'll buy Kinect while it still costs that much.
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    #60  Edited By Patman99

    I'm not sure if you can sit down to play games but you must be able to sit down to just navigate menus

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    #61  Edited By HadesTimes

    Guess I'm glad I pre-ordered Move. Lol!  I can't believe they think they can sell that thing for $150!

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    #62  Edited By JackiJinx

    I'll be sure to get this.  
     
    Also, I can't believe people people are bothering to compare this to the Wii. Really?

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    #63  Edited By Vorbis

    I still think this is a bluff, so when they finally release the $100 price tag people will be pleased rather than angry.
     
    I hope at least, $150 is too much.

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    #64  Edited By Ronald

    I think it depends on if it actually comes with games. If Microsoft is smart, they would throw both Kinect Sports and Kinect Adventure in the box with Kinect, so they can pretend the games are worth $60 each and you as a consumer are only paying $30 for Kinect.

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    #65  Edited By rabidwombat

    Great.  So Children of Eden is now gonna cost me $210.

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    #66  Edited By troy333

    Way to expensive. The playstation move is to expensive as well. Honestly, I'm really thinking of getting a Wii for my motion control fix.  
     
    For 199.99 I can get the Wii with motion plus and a huge back catalogue of games to pick from. Sure, 90 percent of wii games suck but there are games from Nintendo and the occasional  third party that look pretty damn good. Plus the new game from mistwalker has me interested. 
     
    Thanks Sony and Microsoft for opening my eyes toward finally buying a Wii.

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    #67  Edited By l4wd0g

    It's still cheaper than 4 player Move

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    #68  Edited By DJJoeJoe
    @OmegaPirate: I'm pretty sure the question was raised at E3 and there were 'some' people that were sitting for 'some' of the games, though you can't exactly sit for most of them as they are 'active' game requiring you to jump or do movements you just can't do sitting really. Eittherway you're weird if you were expecting anything other then what they showed for now, I mean regardless of whatever it was it was definitely going to be what it is for now, just a collection of controller-less Wii mini games etc. What will be nice for normal gamers will be head tracking in racing and shooters (ARMA 2 does this via expensive third party software/hardware) and things of that nature.
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    #69  Edited By sarahsdad

    I hate to say I don't remember if it was at gdc or pax that there was a quip from an MS exec about the price, where they basically said that it would cost more at the beginning, and then get lower for the non-early adopters. That's sort of an obvious thing to say; of course when they've got production costs down, and worked off some of the dev price, it'll be less for a Kinect, but my memory of the way it was said made it sound an awful lot like they had already planned out a timeline of when the price would be dropping.

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    #70  Edited By HairyMike87

    Totally useless atm besides the multimedia browsing stuff. Other than that, no games catch my attention.

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    #71  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @l4wd0g said:

    " It's still cheaper than 4 player Move "

    Who is gonna buy enough controllers for 4 people? Plus Kinect can only track 2 people.
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    #72  Edited By SilverPR

    Fail

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    #73  Edited By theguido
    @zacharai said:
    " Great.  So Children of Eden is now gonna cost me $210. "
    You do realize you can play it with a regular controller, right?
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    #74  Edited By bibledoctor

    And I still do not care about Kinect.
     
    Especially not enough to spend over 100$ on it.

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    #75  Edited By Chris2KLee
    @The_Laughing_Man said:
    " @Chris2KLee said:
    " I figure since Sony already announced their price, MS is probably about to drop theirs soon to. With the $99 Bundle + $29.99 Navigator Control, Move comes in at about $130. So at $20 dollars more, I could see MS feeling OK there. "
    Keep in mind you do not need that sub controller. Your duel shock will work fine for Move.  "
    Oh, I know. But let's face it, the most comfortable option is gonna be the sub controller. It's the way the move is meant to be played. Also the fighting game that Jeff was playing requires 2 move controllers, so that could really add up. I really want to see how Sony surfaces this thing explaining on each box clearly what is required. Luckily I still have my PlayStation Eye lying around, so that'll save me some cash.
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    #76  Edited By Mister_Snig

    Looks like I'm not buying Dance Central then...

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    #77  Edited By magicboots

    I'm fairly certain you won't be able to use the kinect while sitting, or rather I'd be amazed if they managed to get it working by release. That they managed to get the software to recognize and track a standing human form in real time without any points of reference (like Sony's move) is pretty amazing. However, getting it to recognize and track a person while sitting would be much harder, limbs aren't as obvious and trying to parse the person from the seat would be a nightmare. If it didn't work now, it won't be working at launch, maybe some time after, but certainly not at launch.

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    #78  Edited By rook538

    If this thing doesn't come with a game, it'll be $210 to actually get into kinect. If kinect does come with a game it probably will just be a teaser for the better games. Either way, I don't know why people would buy this over a Wii, which has much more and better games to play, and at half the price.

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    #79  Edited By Cybexx

    This is about as expensive as I expected it to be the whole time. Michael Pachter was the one who thought MS was going to take a huge loss on profit in order to get these things into homes, MS never indicated it was going to price it below $100, I mean look at the prices for their other accessories. I think even the original Vision Camera was priced at around 80 when that thing came out and its a pretty cheap camera.

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    #80  Edited By HarrySound

    It wont shift if it's over $120
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    #81  Edited By NekuCTR

    Man you guys are late, I already saw another user post this a few days ago.

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    #82  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @Haru48 said:
    " Man you guys are late, I already saw another user post this a few days ago. "
    It was only 13 hours ago. 
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    #83  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @Haru48 said:
    " Man you guys are late, I already saw another user post this a few days ago. "
    Eh, the press can't always be on the cusp.  Just ask Kotaku, nicknamed "Slowtaku".
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    #84  Edited By BD_Mr_Bubbles

    I don't see that price as unreasonable, I mean look at all of the tech that went into it.
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    #85  Edited By NekuCTR
    @The_Laughing_Man said:
    " @Haru48 said:
    " Man you guys are late, I already saw another user post this a few days ago. "
    It was only 13 hours ago.  "
    Time? TIME?!? anyways, yea, sorry I've been loosing track of TIME recently.
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    #86  Edited By Brackynews
    @BD_Mr_Bubbles said:

    I don't see that price as unreasonable, I mean look at all of the Skittles that went into it.

    Fixed.
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    #87  Edited By foggel

    I'll just try it once somewhere else, and grow tired of it there. Will only probably take me 10 minutes.

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    #88  Edited By sofakingcool

    I wont pay that much for a couple cameras. Fuck you Microsoft! and bad cameras at that "  640 x 480 pixel resolution at 30FPS"  
    I was really excited for this thing but now it looks like they have cut way back on the ambition and jacked up the price.

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    #89  Edited By Mars

    At that price, I'm afraid I will have to dis-kinect my desire to purchase. I think my MAX would be $99 ... and even that is pushing it until microsoft proves it worthwhile.
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    #90  Edited By BD_Mr_Bubbles
    @Brackynews said:
    "@BD_Mr_Bubbles said:

    I don't see that price as unreasonable, I mean look at all of the Skittles that went into it.

    Fixed. "

    funny
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    #91  Edited By gunslingerNZ

    They've got to drop it by at least $20 if they want to go mass market with Kinect.

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    #92  Edited By illmatic19

    I hope Microsoft fucking fails with this shit.
     
    Yeah I'm an asshole.

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    #93  Edited By Sanious

    Color me still not interested in this motion control nonsense. 

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    #94  Edited By theberserker

    no thanks, shiny crap is still crap

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    #96  Edited By thunderball65

    I was ready to buy it for the kids at christmas, but that price just looks to high.  Unless it is the price with a good multi game pack in.   
     
    I think that most people would just go and buy a wii for $50 more, and not go crazy for the high tech.
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    #97  Edited By sopranosfan

    Lets see the Wii is a console with motion control and a game packed in for $199.  The PS Move is $99 for motion control and game .  The Microsoft Kinect is $149 for motion control.

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    #98  Edited By MjHealy

    Probably pass, unless some amazing Kinect game appears between now and launch.

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    #99  Edited By ZeroKelvin
    @FluxWaveZ said:

    " @ZeroKelvin said:

    " @FluxWaveZ: Wi-Fi is about Internet AND device connectivity.  For example, my home wireless network works perfectly well when my internet is out.  I can print from any computer in my house, as well as perform many other tasks, except those that are internet related.  It COULD be that the Kinect uses Wi-Fi for some functionality.  Frankly I have no idea.    My point is only that Wi-Fi serves for more than internet access. "

    But isn't the wireless technology between devices something other than Wi-Fi?  Something like infrared sensors or Blu-ray technology?  I've always thought Wi-Fi itself was exclusively associated with the wireless connectivity to the internet. "
    Okay, I see what you're getting at.  Yes, many devices communicate wirelessly without Wi-Fi.  You list some examples above, but I think you mean Bluetooth, not Blu-Ray (smile).  However Wi-Fi is best defined here perhaps...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi  
     
    So, "wireless" and "Wi-Fi" are not always interchangeable. 
     
    Again, to reiterate, I have no idea how Kinect will use either "wireless" or "Wi-Fi" tech...  
     
    Cheers, 
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    #100  Edited By rabidwombat
    @theguido said:
    " @zacharai said:
    " Great.  So Children of Eden is now gonna cost me $210. "
    You do realize you can play it with a regular controller, right? "
    No, I wasn't aware.  Thanks for the heads-up.

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