Why would I buy Natal when I can just buy two games I actually want for the same price?
Kinect Support
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Kinect is a camera and depth sensor-based peripheral for the Xbox 360 that allows users to interact with and play games using their whole bodies, rather than using a standard controller.
Microsoft Store Lists Kinect at $149
"Its been said It can only track 2 people. Also as of now Ive heard it does not work wile you are sitting.$149 make sense. You get everything in one box. - 2 player (or more?), voice and motion tracking etc. I believe you will get a higher number with all of these features with the Playstation Move.
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its gone from 'pie in the sky' fever dream last year, to basically nothing like its original concept this year (read, is mini game friendly but without anything to hold)
I mean i agree that the technical feats that may be achievable with it are enticing - but this is the result of them having to take shit OUT of the hardware and shift the load onto the 360 processor which has led to the release of it in this state - i can't see them wanting to push it harder any time soon,
Now the only reason I could think of wanting the damn thing after Microsofts Dismal conference showing was the ability to
have my own 'minority report' moments - however once again it was nowhere near as slick and seamless as it should be - instead of swift hand movements, it became the wii menu navigation but you have to hold your hand still for 3 seconds instead of pushing a button - hardly a revolution here.
And since that conference every piece of news released has continued to underwhelm - From the inability to use it sitting / lying down to the horrendous entry price point Kinect has literally fell at every hurdle for me, and as such i really don;t thnik my controller is $150 worth of antiquated tech just yet,
" @The_Laughing_Man: yeah but their gonna fix the not sitting down thing right? i mean they have to figure they might as well not even release it if you cant sit down while using it. "Who knows. It is said it tracks your skeleton. That is all I really know about how it tracks.
Guess I'm glad I pre-ordered Move. Lol! I can't believe they think they can sell that thing for $150!
Way to expensive. The playstation move is to expensive as well. Honestly, I'm really thinking of getting a Wii for my motion control fix.
For 199.99 I can get the Wii with motion plus and a huge back catalogue of games to pick from. Sure, 90 percent of wii games suck but there are games from Nintendo and the occasional third party that look pretty damn good. Plus the new game from mistwalker has me interested.
Thanks Sony and Microsoft for opening my eyes toward finally buying a Wii.
I hate to say I don't remember if it was at gdc or pax that there was a quip from an MS exec about the price, where they basically said that it would cost more at the beginning, and then get lower for the non-early adopters. That's sort of an obvious thing to say; of course when they've got production costs down, and worked off some of the dev price, it'll be less for a Kinect, but my memory of the way it was said made it sound an awful lot like they had already planned out a timeline of when the price would be dropping.
Totally useless atm besides the multimedia browsing stuff. Other than that, no games catch my attention.
Who is gonna buy enough controllers for 4 people? Plus Kinect can only track 2 people." It's still cheaper than 4 player Move "
" @Chris2KLee said:Oh, I know. But let's face it, the most comfortable option is gonna be the sub controller. It's the way the move is meant to be played. Also the fighting game that Jeff was playing requires 2 move controllers, so that could really add up. I really want to see how Sony surfaces this thing explaining on each box clearly what is required. Luckily I still have my PlayStation Eye lying around, so that'll save me some cash." I figure since Sony already announced their price, MS is probably about to drop theirs soon to. With the $99 Bundle + $29.99 Navigator Control, Move comes in at about $130. So at $20 dollars more, I could see MS feeling OK there. "Keep in mind you do not need that sub controller. Your duel shock will work fine for Move. "
I'm fairly certain you won't be able to use the kinect while sitting, or rather I'd be amazed if they managed to get it working by release. That they managed to get the software to recognize and track a standing human form in real time without any points of reference (like Sony's move) is pretty amazing. However, getting it to recognize and track a person while sitting would be much harder, limbs aren't as obvious and trying to parse the person from the seat would be a nightmare. If it didn't work now, it won't be working at launch, maybe some time after, but certainly not at launch.
If this thing doesn't come with a game, it'll be $210 to actually get into kinect. If kinect does come with a game it probably will just be a teaser for the better games. Either way, I don't know why people would buy this over a Wii, which has much more and better games to play, and at half the price.
This is about as expensive as I expected it to be the whole time. Michael Pachter was the one who thought MS was going to take a huge loss on profit in order to get these things into homes, MS never indicated it was going to price it below $100, I mean look at the prices for their other accessories. I think even the original Vision Camera was priced at around 80 when that thing came out and its a pretty cheap camera.
" Man you guys are late, I already saw another user post this a few days ago. "It was only 13 hours ago.
Fixed.I don't see that price as unreasonable, I mean look at all of the Skittles that went into it.
I wont pay that much for a couple cameras. Fuck you Microsoft! and bad cameras at that " 640 x 480 pixel resolution at 30FPS"
I was really excited for this thing but now it looks like they have cut way back on the ambition and jacked up the price.
"@BD_Mr_Bubbles said:Fixed. "I don't see that price as unreasonable, I mean look at all of the Skittles that went into it.
funny
I was ready to buy it for the kids at christmas, but that price just looks to high. Unless it is the price with a good multi game pack in.
I think that most people would just go and buy a wii for $50 more, and not go crazy for the high tech.
Lets see the Wii is a console with motion control and a game packed in for $199. The PS Move is $99 for motion control and game . The Microsoft Kinect is $149 for motion control.
Okay, I see what you're getting at. Yes, many devices communicate wirelessly without Wi-Fi. You list some examples above, but I think you mean Bluetooth, not Blu-Ray (smile). However Wi-Fi is best defined here perhaps... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi" @ZeroKelvin said:
But isn't the wireless technology between devices something other than Wi-Fi? Something like infrared sensors or Blu-ray technology? I've always thought Wi-Fi itself was exclusively associated with the wireless connectivity to the internet. "" @FluxWaveZ: Wi-Fi is about Internet AND device connectivity. For example, my home wireless network works perfectly well when my internet is out. I can print from any computer in my house, as well as perform many other tasks, except those that are internet related. It COULD be that the Kinect uses Wi-Fi for some functionality. Frankly I have no idea. My point is only that Wi-Fi serves for more than internet access. "
So, "wireless" and "Wi-Fi" are not always interchangeable.
Again, to reiterate, I have no idea how Kinect will use either "wireless" or "Wi-Fi" tech...
Cheers,
ZK
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