http://kotaku.com/5109080/rumor-kojima-working-on-first+person-shooter-calls-on-infinity-ward

"According to an anonymous poster on the popular but perennially sketchy 4chan board, Metal Gear Solid series director Hideo Kojima visited the offices of Infinity Ward today. Why? "To learn" about first-person shooters, allegedly.

The purported Infinity Warder wrote — with accompanying photo "proof" of the visit — that Kojima is working on something in the "FPS genre so he came to us to learn and take details from the team." It wouldn't be the first time that Kojima was rumored to have called upon the Call of Duty developer's FPS know-how."

Aaand here's the photo

yeah I heard about this earlier, I would say I'm very interested, but not until I get some actual confirmation about this. A "random poster at 4chan" is about as bad as it gets in terms of someone running an actual story from.

a next metal gear is... an FPS?

"a next metal gear is... an FPS?"

"Bulldog19892 said:

"a next metal gear is... an FPS?"

The FPS view in MGS4 was very good."

"yeah I heard about this earlier, I would say I'm very interested, but not until I get some actual confirmation about this. A "random poster at 4chan" is about as bad as it gets in terms of someone running an actual story from."

This is an iffy choice, I think. In the 3D stealth realm, there was little competition. In the FPS realm, You have Bioshock, Half Life 2 and Call of Duty 4 advancing gameplay and storytelling. He has more competition than he's ready for, I think.

"This is an iffy choice, I think. In the 3D stealth realm, there was little competition. In the FPS realm, You have Bioshock, Half Life 2 and Call of Duty 4 advancing gameplay and storytelling. He has more competition than he's ready for, I think."

Id play it. As long as it comes out on the PC too.

"Arkthemaniac said:

"This is an iffy choice, I think. In the 3D stealth realm, there was little competition. In the FPS realm, You have Bioshock, Half Life 2 and Call of Duty 4 advancing gameplay and storytelling. He has more competition than he's ready for, I think."

None of those games however have masterful stories in Metal Gears tier.


"

"LiquidPrince said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"This is an iffy choice, I think. In the 3D stealth realm, there was little competition. In the FPS realm, You have Bioshock, Half Life 2 and Call of Duty 4 advancing gameplay and storytelling. He has more competition than he's ready for, I think."

None of those games however have masterful stories in Metal Gears tier.


"

Don't even try to say that Half Life or Bioshock doesn't have a good enough story to compete with that seen in Metal Gear. MGS's entire story was so convoluted and crazy throughout each time it made a "sequel", even when it started to come together and make sense by MGS4, it was a continuous thing that gets drug out game after game, just so they have a reason to make a sequel once more, and I like Metal Gear alot, but there isn't a way around this. Bishock as a stand alone game comes together and makes sense, that is far better than the drawn out conclusion that Metal Gear had."

Let me correct you, Metal Gear has "in your opinion" a better story then those games. Don't try to talk as if you're saying a fact, because you're not. This isn't even what this "what if?" thing could be though, referring to if he actually goes into making an FPS, I somehow don't think it would be a Metal Gear game. However if it is, those games threaten the way FPS do their story telling, so would definitely have plenty of competition in this genre, unlike the stealth/action genre, where as Metal Gear was on top of it.

"Arkthemaniac said:

"This is an iffy choice, I think. In the 3D stealth realm, there was little competition. In the FPS realm, You have Bioshock, Half Life 2 and Call of Duty 4 advancing gameplay and storytelling. He has more competition than he's ready for, I think."

None of those games however have masterful stories in Metal Gears tier.


"

"Let me correct you, Metal Gear has "in your opinion" a better story then those games. Don't try to talk as if you're saying a fact, because you're not. This isn't even what this "what if?" thing could be though, referring to if he actually goes into making an FPS, I somehow don't think it would be a Metal Gear game. However if it is, those games threaten the way FPS do their story telling, so would definitely have plenty of competition in this genre, unlike the stealth/action genre, where as Metal Gear was on top of it."

What I'm saying isn't an opinion, because I'm not saying any of these games are bad or worse than either or them. What I am saying is that you're saying, whether you mean to make it sound this way or not, like its undeniable that Metal Gear's story is far better than either Half Life's or Bioshock, and its totally just your opinion and has no standing other than that. However, just rumor atm but still, if he does do a FPS that is based in the Metal Gear universe, he has far more competition than in the stealth/action genre, where Metal Gear was the top easily. Numbers mean nothing either, if you got all your buddies that agree with you that Metal Gear has a better story, its still just their opinion. I can easily say I know plenty of people that find Bioshock or more so, Half Lifes story/world far better than Metal Gears.

This is a stupid topic to begin with to go back and fourth with, the way you make each of your posts sound is completely ignorant, and just goes further into your "I'm a raving sony fanboy" attitude. Its pointless even trying to have a debate of opinion with you.

"What I'm saying isn't an opinion, because I'm not saying any of these games are bad or worse than either or them. What I am saying is that you're saying, whether you mean to make it sound this way or not, like its undeniable that Metal Gear's story is far better than either Half Life's or Bioshock, and its totally just your opinion and has no standing other than that. However, just rumor atm but still, if he does do a FPS that is based in the Metal Gear universe, he has far more competition than in the stealth/action genre, where Metal Gear was the top easily. Numbers mean nothing either, if you got all your buddies that agree with you that Metal Gear has a better story, its still just their opinion. I can easily say I know plenty of people that find Bioshock or more so, Half Lifes story/world far better than Metal Gears.

This is a stupid topic to begin with to go back and fourth with, the way you make each of your posts sound is completely ignorant, and just goes further into your "I'm a raving sony fanboy" attitude. Its pointless even trying to have a debate of opinion with you."

Bioshock was a single game, with a story made for that one game, its far different than the way Metal Gear set up for constantly sequel after sequel while constantly not answering certain things until the next game(even longer when they went from MGS2 o MGS3,since it wasn't a sequel), its so different and can't really be compared. I said MGS's story is convoluted and crazy, and it is, I didn't say it was bad  though.

Also think about this, you stated that if you had a possey of people basically agreeing with you that Metal Gear had a better story, that outnumbered the amount saying that Half Life or Bioshock did, they would be right. So....that's like saying since the Wii is killing the 360 and PS3 in sales its hands down the best console right? You even disagree with that yourself, watch your words before you use them, because they come back at you.

"Bioshock was a single game, with a story made for that one game, its far different than the way Metal Gear set up for constantly sequel after sequel while constantly not answering certain things until the next game(even longer when they went from MGS2 o MGS3,since it wasn't a sequel), its so different and can't really be compared. I said MGS's story is convoluted and crazy, and it is, I didn't say it was bad  though.

Also think about this, you stated that if you had a possey of people basically agreeing with you that Metal Gear had a better story, that outnumbered the amount saying that Half Life or Bioshock did, they would be right. So....that's like saying since the Wii is killing the 360 and PS3 in sales its hands down the best console right? You even disagree with that yourself, watch your words before you use them, because they come back at you."

I'm done now btw, keep ranting if you feel the need to. Anyone here can clearly see its pointless talking back and fourth between a subject such as this with you. You're wrong is all it comes down to, since you apparently can't accept the fact that its just your own opinion that Metal Gear is better. I'd like to see the "majority" though, seeing as no one except yourself has been arguing this here.

"I'm done now btw, keep ranting if you feel the need to. Anyone here can clearly see its pointless talking back and fourth between a subject such as this with you. You're wrong is all it comes down to, since you apparently can't accept the fact that its just your own opinion that Metal Gear is better. I'd like to see the "majority" though, seeing as no one except yourself has been arguing this here."

I just gotta say how hilarious that statement is real quick: Because I'm done going back and fourth with someone who is biased to begin with on a topic that is just opinionated of what stories seem to be better(no , you stating your "opinion" doesn't mean its right, but its apparently rocket science for you to get that into your head) instead of sitting here for another I don't know how long refreshing this forum to go back and fourth with you more so, I'm giving up? Its hilarious what you call a "victory".

What reviews are you talking about honestly? Halo gets amazing reviews, I think the game is shit, why would I care about the difference of reviews between Metal Gear games and Half Life/Bioshock ones? Like its proving anything. On top of even if it did, where in any of these reviews does each one specifically state that "Metal gear has the best story ever, clearly better than half life or bioshock", pretty sure no where. Bringing reviews into the mix to begin with is a stupid thing to base your argument on. Keep going on and think what you want, feel free to even think you're constantly right and others aren't since its clear you seem to think that. Sorry I'm not as childish as you apparently.

Just gotta say, I thought Sentry could be bad sometimes about shit like this, but wow, you really out do it. Good work. /clap

"I just gotta say how hilarious that statement is real quick: Because I'm done going back and fourth with someone who is biased to begin with on a topic that is just opinionated of what stories seem to be better(no , you stating your "opinion" doesn't mean its right, but its apparently rocket science for you to get that into your head) instead of sitting here for another I don't know how long refreshing this forum to go back and fourth with you more so, I'm giving up? Its hilarious what you call a "victory".

What reviews are you talking about honestly? Halo gets amazing reviews, I think the game is shit, why would I care about the difference of reviews between Metal Gear games and Half Life/Bioshock ones? Like its proving anything. On top of even if it did, where in any of these reviews does each one specifically state that "Metal gear has the best story ever, clearly better than half life or bioshock", pretty sure no where. Bringing reviews into the mix to begin with is a stupid thing to base your argument on. Keep going on and think what you want, feel free to even think you're constantly right and others aren't since its clear you seem to think that. Sorry I'm not as childish as you apparently.

Just gotta say, I thought Sentry could be bad sometimes about shit like this, but wow, you really out do it. Good work. /clap"

The funny part is this whole internet argument started out over which had better storytelling and devolved into which had better story.

It's hilarious how absolutely fucked pause422 was by the end of that debate.

All I'll say is that hour+ long cutscenes won't work in an FPS...

"It's hilarious how absolutely fucked pause422 was by the end of that debate."

Hour long cutscenes dont work in FPS no, But i dont think that just because kojima has made metal gear for a good portion of his career doesnt mean he cant tell story in different ways, i think hes an intelligble enough man to do the research and explore different ways of telling story. 

If Kojima could actually tell a story in the way that Bioshock/Half-Life told their stories I would be very impressed, but I can't see him not doing cutscenes. I would respect him a lot more if he did change his ways, but I think he's way too in love with cutscenes to stop using them.

"If Kojima could actually tell a story in the way that Bioshock/Half-Life told their stories I would be very impressed, but I can't see him not doing cutscenes. I would respect him a lot more if he did change his ways, but I think he's way too in love with cutscenes to stop using them."

I wouldn't mind a CoD4-sneaking Metal Gear with the totally over the top action sequences, although if the codecs were seamless radios in the corner while you were moving, that'd be awesome.