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    L.A. Noire

    Game » consists of 17 releases. Released May 17, 2011

    L.A. Noire is a detective thriller developed by Team Bondi in Australia and published by Rockstar Games.

    I finished L.A. Noire, and... (Spoilers)

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    Edited By mcbonjon

    This post contains SPOILERS!!  


    I have to say, I’m pretty disappointed with how the game ends. The game does have a great pace as you play, but the switch up to playing Kelso and Phelps being demoted was a surprise to me. The cases in arson are interesting in the fact that the evidence leads to a bigger conspiracy. These parts of the game gave the pace an interesting change. Also the flashbacks throughout start to make sense as the pieces are put together, same with the newspapers discovered throughout.

    At the end of the game, the story doesn’t give a good sense of closure. Phelps gets killed, a funeral service is held for him. THE END. What about the rest of the conspiracy? What happened to the rest of the players involved and did the project get stopped? Thanks a lot for a bad sense of closure. For the last few games from Rockstar, they ended on a high note but didn’t leave players hanging.

    This can lead to a few things. Team Bondi are planning to continue the conspiracy in a sequel or that’s that, take it as you will. I’m not a fan of this type or story telling, but what are your thoughts on this?

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    #1  Edited By mcbonjon

    This post contains SPOILERS!!  


    I have to say, I’m pretty disappointed with how the game ends. The game does have a great pace as you play, but the switch up to playing Kelso and Phelps being demoted was a surprise to me. The cases in arson are interesting in the fact that the evidence leads to a bigger conspiracy. These parts of the game gave the pace an interesting change. Also the flashbacks throughout start to make sense as the pieces are put together, same with the newspapers discovered throughout.

    At the end of the game, the story doesn’t give a good sense of closure. Phelps gets killed, a funeral service is held for him. THE END. What about the rest of the conspiracy? What happened to the rest of the players involved and did the project get stopped? Thanks a lot for a bad sense of closure. For the last few games from Rockstar, they ended on a high note but didn’t leave players hanging.

    This can lead to a few things. Team Bondi are planning to continue the conspiracy in a sequel or that’s that, take it as you will. I’m not a fan of this type or story telling, but what are your thoughts on this?

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    #2  Edited By BrainSpecialist

    I agree. The ending's not the best, particularly seeing how well the rest of the game plays out. Kelso's interesting enough of a character to have his own DLC cases I'm sure, but they'd have to address this Vice Corruption business or else it doesn't feel like it would have the necessary weight. Or I wouldn't care about it, or something.
     
    My issue's with the idea of a sequel, although I'd play this game if set in 1970's New York, and you were fucking Shaft.

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    #3  Edited By jtmosh
    @McBonJon said:
    What about the rest of the conspiracy? What happened to the rest of the players involved
    Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.
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    #4  Edited By sparky_buzzsaw

    Wasn't a fan of the ending either.  I genuinely liked switching things up with Kelso, and the small parts involving Phelps' demotion and the darker part of his backstory were fantastic.  But ultimately, the ending felt like they were trying too hard to set up the next game in the series without giving any sort of proper closure to the game.  And the lack of reasoning behind the German love interest and the partner's denouncement of Kelso was just bizarre.  One minute, the German thinks he's the best thing for Phelps, and the next?  She hates him.  If she's pissed because Phelps died and Kelso lived, fine - but Team Bondi and Rockstar really could have spent another couple of minutes on that ending to do some more exposition.

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    #5  Edited By BrainSpecialist
    @JTMosh: YES. FUCK.
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    #6  Edited By DystopiaX
    @JTMosh said:
    @McBonJon said:
    What about the rest of the conspiracy? What happened to the rest of the players involved
    Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.
    It's heavily implied that they get away with it, due to the lack of absolutely solid evidence- the flamethrower dude in the tunnels was supposed to link it all together but since Kelso shot him they don't have his testimony anymore- not that it would really have counted in court since he's clearly not mentally stable.  
     
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    Wasn't a fan of the ending either.  I genuinely liked switching things up with Kelso, and the small parts involving Phelps' demotion and the darker part of his backstory were fantastic.  But ultimately, the ending felt like they were trying too hard to set up the next game in the series without giving any sort of proper closure to the game.  And the lack of reasoning behind the German love interest and the partner's denouncement of Kelso was just bizarre.  One minute, the German thinks he's the best thing for Phelps, and the next?  She hates him.  If she's pissed because Phelps died and Kelso lived, fine - but Team Bondi and Rockstar really could have spent another couple of minutes on that ending to do some more exposition.

    The fact that there was the German love interest is fine, they just don't introduce it well. The fact that he cheated on his wife is a very Noir-ish theme and fits very well with the theme of the game that no character in the story is good, and the fact that we see his home life fall apart and see why his unit hates him so much at the same time is very well done; it shows that Phelps isn't the upstanding hero that he's first portrayed as, both in the war and at home. I think that the German's denouncement was aimed at Roy Earl, no? Unless you're thinking of a different scene or I missed out on something. Even so, I think she was pissed that flamethrower dude died because she wanted to nail the insurance dude and friends so bad; its why she gave up the 20k and helped Phelps as well, and putting flamethrower dude out of his misery is something that she probably didn't care much about.
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    #7  Edited By sparky_buzzsaw
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    No, I'm pretty sure the comments were directed at Kelso.  Immediately after she stalks off and the partner gets up to follow her, Kelso stops the partner and says something to the effect of, "I wasn't his friend, but I wasn't his enemy either."  Maybe I'm mistaken, though.  I'll see if the ending isn't posted up on Youtube or something. 
     
    Oops.  Yep.  I was sorta wrong on that one.  Herschel is actually the one who tells Kelso he wasn't Cole's friend.  Elsa seems to be pissed at him for not saying something when Earle starts his bullshit eulogy - you were definitely in the right there.
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    #8  Edited By BBQBram

    I respect your opinion, but couldn't you have weighed in on one of the other gazillion threads about the ending? This topic is sprouting up everyday and it's getting old.

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    #9  Edited By Yanngc33

    I think Rockstar saw the story as Phelps' meaning that they decided to end it with his death. But you're right, it's no Red Dead barn door

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    #10  Edited By DystopiaX
    @Sparky_Buzzsaw said:
    @DystopiaX: No, I'm pretty sure the comments were directed at Kelso.  Immediately after she stalks off and the partner gets up to follow her, Kelso stops the partner and says something to the effect of, "I wasn't his friend, but I wasn't his enemy either."  Maybe I'm mistaken, though.  I'll see if the ending isn't posted up on Youtube or something.  Oops.  Yep.  I was sorta wrong on that one.  Herschel is actually the one who tells Kelso he wasn't Cole's friend.  Elsa seems to be pissed at him for not saying something when Earle starts his bullshit eulogy - you were definitely in the right there.
    Yeah, the way I interpreted that comment ("I wasn't his friend...he knew that") was that Kelso and Phelps had different values- Phelps stood for what was right no matter what (or the law's interpretation of right), whereas Kelso was all about the people and caring for those around him. They're not the same thing so they're not friends, but Phelps understood that didn't make them enemies either.
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    #11  Edited By Castiel

    Oh another cry baby thread: "buhu I didn't get ze ending tihs gaem is zo dubm!!!"

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    #12  Edited By mcbonjon
    @BBQBram:  Yeah. I needed to update my blog with something. This was just the first thing I thought of. I haven't searched the threads since launch. I imagined that there were some of these put up, but not so many. I'll make sure to look next time. I just wanted to say something, that's all. Thanks though. 
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    #13  Edited By xyzygy

    What are you guys talking about? Before the final case, if you READ Kelso's notes, it talks about how he took down Elysian Fields and the Suburban Development Fund. It mentions how Fontaine is dead, Monroe is limping to jail and the head of Fire and Life is also getting whats coming to him. 
     
    That is all finalized before the beginning of the final case.

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    #14  Edited By Bravestar
    @Castiel: voicing opinions on a forum. So dumb, am I right? HEH
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    #15  Edited By Origina1Penguin

    I think killing off Phelps was an easy out. I am curious what happened with the up-and-coming DA and the Chief of Police. The Chief was at the funeral so I imagine they struck a deal (as they were negotiating in the final case). Also, that asshole Roy (from Vice) was at the funeral too even though he was on the payroll notebook in Monroe's safe. Kelso will probably stay on as the assistant DA's investigator but I don't think there is much Team Bondi could do with him for a sequel.

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    #16  Edited By mattman734

    I dident like the ending at first, i did really enjoy the Jack story. What i did like is the after the credits part which sets up Jack as being a better man then Phelps. The more i think about it the whole game is about slowly discovering that the main character is actually obnoxious, self absorbed, and has actually done some really bad stuff that he wont man up and that credit for. Which is why i forgive not explaining Phelps at the end because the game is no longer interested in him the moment Jack comes into the picture. The game stops caring about him and so should you.  I think its a ballsy story even if its not as smooth as it could be.

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    #17  Edited By Castiel
    @Bravestar: No of course not, but he could just voice his opinion in any of the other 20 threads about the ending of the game, or is that too crazy? Should everyone create a new thread when they finish the game then?
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    #18  Edited By bkbroiler
    @mattman734 said:
    I dident like the ending at first, i did really enjoy the Jack story. What i did like is the after the credits part which sets up Jack as being a better man then Phelps. The more i think about it the whole game is about slowly discovering that the main character is actually obnoxious, self absorbed, and has actually done some really bad stuff that he wont man up and that credit for. Which is why i forgive not explaining Phelps at the end because the game is no longer interested in him the moment Jack comes into the picture. The game stops caring about him and so should you.  I think its a ballsy story even if its not as smooth as it could be.
    I don't think Phelps is perfect, but he really proved himself for what he did during the events of the game. He wasn't the best guy (He did cheat on his wife, but who didn't back then? - not that that excuses him), but he was a great detective committed to doing the right thing. 
     
    I agree the change could use a little more polish. And I just plain didn't LIKE Kelso as much as Phelps. I missed playing as him.

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