This is World at War all over again. I dread every time I have to fight Cerberus because all that happens is a constant barrage of smoke grenades and frag grenades that kill me in 1 hit, and in the big battles if I try to get away from the grenade I usually just get killed by bullets.

I'm stuck at the Grissom Academy mission. I'm at the part where all the Biotics are helping you out, and I just can't do it. Smoke is just constantly everywhere with bullets coming through it with pinpoint accuracy, and frags coming through it constantly with pinpoint accuracy while an endless supply of shield guys walk towards me, and an atlas is chilling out shooting rockets at my face.

I think they're overpowered even on hardcore. What's the worst about it is that grenades are entirely inaccurate and ineffective if you're using them, but awesome when enemies have them. Double standard, I say!

I didn't have any problems with this. Just keep your distance.

seems pretty easy compared to ME2 so far.

I'll never understand people that must do an Insanity run the first time. If you're not having fun, turn the difficulty down.

That said, other people have complained about the Grissom Academy mission as well.

@CL60: Would you say the grenades are...Insane?

I don't mind them. Keeps you mobile, makes combat more interesting.

Grenades are fine the turrets are whats bullshit

I didn't have any problem on Insanity, but it probably had something to do with having played a bajillion hours of the multiplayer demo. Spamming crowd control (Stasis works on everything except armor) and GingTFO as soon as I hear the beeping of a grenade is just second nature.

Grissom was the first mission I had real trouble with even on Normal

@McGrittles said:

Grenades are fine the turrets are whats bullshit

I love the turrets they put down. I can just hit them with sabotage and they murder every Cerberus asshole nearby without me having to bother. I hate getting flanked by shield guys I didn't even see, especially since the only reliable way to defeat them is with Biotics, and the only party member with Biotics is Liara, who I really don't want to have to take to every mission with Cerberus enemies.

Still, Grissom Academy was the mission that gave me the most trouble in the entire game so far, and I'm getting pretty near the end. That room in particular took me a long time.

@McGrittles said:

Grenades are fine the turrets are whats bullshit

I love the turrets they put down. I can just hit them with sabotage and they murder every Cerberus asshole nearby without me having to bother. I hate getting flanked by shield guys I didn't even see, especially since the only reliable way to defeat them is with Biotics, and the only party member with Biotics is Liara, who I really don't want to have to take to every mission with Cerberus enemies.

Still, Grissom Academy was the mission that gave me the most trouble in the entire game so far, and I'm getting pretty near the end. That room in particular took me a long time.

@believer258 said:

I'll never understand people that must do an Insanity run the first time. If you're not having fun, turn the difficulty down.

That said, other people have complained about the Grissom Academy mission as well.

I missed out on that one. I had more pressing matters.

If you're an achievement whore, the multiplayer thing is probably less time consuming. If you're not, there's no good reason to play on Insanity.

edit: Ah, I see they have a separate achievement for that. Well that's terrible.

No. Fuck insanity mode. I don't have ME3 but in ME2, scions can eat a dick

For Grissom, that part, I advise going up the ramp right away, and be sure to have your squad follow.
 
The mech won't be able to hit you, and with use of your squadmates powers you can take out most of the meat when they come up the ramps, and ample space to dodge grenades.
Hard bit though, for sure.

I understand the design decision to have enemies trying to keep you from sitting in cover, but they spam those things CONSTANTLY, and it makes every Cerberus mission a pain in the ass. I dread every one that I come across. I hope they patch it so that they at least don't throw them as often.

@EToaster said:

@McGrittles said:

Grenades are fine the turrets are whats bullshit

I love the turrets they put down. I can just hit them with sabotage and they murder every Cerberus asshole nearby without me having to bother. I hate getting flanked by shield guys I didn't even see, especially since the only reliable way to defeat them is with Biotics, and the only party member with Biotics is Liara, who I really don't want to have to take to every mission with Cerberus enemies.

Still, Grissom Academy was the mission that gave me the most trouble in the entire game so far, and I'm getting pretty near the end. That room in particular took me a long time.

I take Liara every time because of this. Singularity spamming works wonders because these guys never seem to have shields. Then there's the panic button of placing something in Stasis.

@Dezztroy said:

why would you not take Garrus with you in the first place?

There are people don't use Garrus? What!?

Next thing you'll tell me is that some people killed Wrex! And we all know that killing Wrex is like killing an adorable murderous kitten-frog-man; It's unethical. Just like Hitler.

If you think grenades in ME3 are just as bad as the grenades in World at War, you gotta play World at War again. You don't get 5 grenades thrown at you the same time in ME3.

Insanity in ME3 is fine, it is supposed to be a little rough. if you can't handle it go play it on a lower setting.

yeah the grenades and turrets in that one room in particular are pretty bad.

The rest of the game is fairly easy though.

It's frustrating because it just feels like they took the easy way out on the AI and combat scenario designs. But I guess that's just carrying on the fine tradition of ME2 combat rooms.

@Dezztroy said:

I didn't have any problems with this. Just keep your distance.

This and don't stay in one place for to long.

@McGrittles said:

Grenades are fine the turrets are whats bullshit

this...

The hardest part in the game, for sure. Enemy engineers put their turrets in the perfect positions, and grenades just seem to come from nowhere. The "biotic artillery" was totally worthless, as well. Took about 6 tries on Insanity. As Talicia said, the ramp going up is the best way to beat this. If you get lucky, the engineers will spawn at the bottom of the ramp instead of the top, making them easier to kill. Also, keep your party with you at all times. If you let them roam, you'll eat through medi-gel like Skittles.

The TC is having trouble beating the game on a difficulty level called INSANITY huh? Quite crying and become better at video games or tuck your tail inbetween your legs and turn down the difficulty. This isn't Dark/Demon's Souls. You have options. Man up.

@BrockNRolla said:

I think they're overpowered even on hardcore. What's the worst about it is that grenades are entirely inaccurate and ineffective if you're using them, but awesome when enemies have them. Double standard, I say!

Same. I just did Grissom Academy on hardcore as a biotic this morning. I died more than a dozen times in the atrium fight - most times I'd be doing pretty good, but lose my grip on the third wave and get one-hit by a grenade, or meleed from behind ny Guardian adds taking the long way around the arena late in teh fight. Had Garrus/Liara (which is to say only Garrus was dropping shields, and my party had too much control and too little damage). As a fully-invested Biotic Adept, smoke bombs ruin my ability to control and damage enemies - blind fire biotics stuck and I've got like a pistol to blindly fire with.

Did it eventually of course, but it seems like between this and the "From Ashes" DLC mission that the side content is harder than the mainline campaign stuff - it doesn't scale if you do it early in the game maybe? That is my theory anyways.

@BrockNRolla said:

I think they're overpowered even on hardcore. What's the worst about it is that grenades are entirely inaccurate and ineffective if you're using them, but awesome when enemies have them. Double standard, I say!

They are overpowered even on normal. They are one-hit kills, too.

@CL60: I'm stuck on Grissom, too, on Hardcore. Hell I made a help thread about it. Grenades are annoying but the turrets are the worst. I've failed on that fight 20+ times already, and am stupid enough to keep banging my head against the wall. I may just replay the mission w/ a different party..i just don't want to give up entirely and lower the difficulty.

I found Insanity to be a bit easier than in Mass Effect 2, but yeah those smoke grenades are annoying as hell. Though there are scope mods that can see through that and paint a target for you.

That mission is very hard, but yeah, there's a little too many grenades. If you're not right near them you will survive though.

My advice is going up the ramp to the right as someone else said, kill the turrets and use something (there's plenty) to get their shields off. They're not that hard. I did it on insanity while bringing two characters I never used before (not Garrus nor Liara) and I didn't like any of them, they were quite useless.

@CL60: Grissom Academy mission is messed up, it was hard on normal mode. Once you get out into the courtyard you just get lit up!

The TC is having trouble beating the game on a difficulty level called INSANITY huh? Quite crying and become better at video games or tuck your tail inbetween your legs and turn down the difficulty. This isn't Dark/Demon's Souls. You have options. Man up.

@Ariketh said:

@Dezztroy said:

why would you not take Garrus with you in the first place?

There are people don't use Garrus? What!?

Next thing you'll tell me is that some people killed Wrex! And we all know that killing Wrex is like killing an adorable murderous kitten-frog-man; It's unethical. Just like Hitler.

Did someone say Godwin!? Godwin!

In all seriousness Garrus is a good character but he couldn't match up to Miranda's completely broken stat boosts in ME2, despite her being an atrocious character :(