@WrenchNinja said:
@TheHT said:
Yes indeed. The millions-years old Reapers need to prove their theory of "eventually synthetics will destroy all organics" to the thousands-years old humans who have settled one conflict with synthetics.But of course because they haven't spoken of any particular times synthetics actively threatened all organic life there must not have been any, ever. That's how logic works, right?
In fact, as WrenchNinja points out, that the Reapers exist and have been actively stopping that from ever having a chance of happening, resulting in organics still existing, is all proof that it can't ever happen anyways.
I mean, look at all the things we learn about synthetics. Cooperation and even commingling are possible! How beautiful it would have been for the cruel heartless Reapers to have seen Legion and Tali holding hands, or EDI embracing Joker, and realize that they were wrong all along, as a single orange goopy tear creeped down their bluish carapaces.
QUE CELINE DION; ROLL CREDITS
There are definitely gripes to be had with the original Mass Effect 3 ending, but some peoplereally got behind the stupid ones.
Yes. They do need to prove it. We have no reason to believe killer robots that repurpose other species as space zombies, trying to violently psychically mind rape individuals, that also use our liquefied remains to make more of themselves, use tactics such as using other synthetics to kill us to save us all from synthetics wiping us out and turning ourselves against each other. All for the benefit that not all organics will be wiped out by synthetics. It's very hard to swallow.
I never said that there were never any synthetics that tried to wipe out all organics. What I am saying is that they are just as capable of coexisting. The same with organics. The Krogan have been a bigger threat to the galaxy than any synthetic has been before the Reapers. Should we have gone under the assumption that it is impossible for the Krogan to cooperate and their only inclination is to war and conquer?
The Reapers are synthetics, as much as they want to deny it and say they are blend of both, having little jelly tubes don't make them technorganic. The fact that they exist at all, the fact that they haven't decided to wipe out all organics over the course of millions of years is enough proof that their theory is invalid.
We have more support in the series that AI's first thought isn't going to be kill all organics than we do the opposite. If you want to prove a point, show some evidence. That's how any argument works.
I don't see how it's a stupid gripe at all and I don't feel the mocking is warranted.
Their tactics are irrelevant, and you've missed the point. You're asking them to prove their suggestion that says something will inevitably happen. How would you do that exactly? You can't even prove that the Sun will rise tomorrow. And why exactly would the Reapers feel the need to explain why they believe what they do? It makes no difference to them, they're going to turn everyone into goo either way.
Providing examples of previous synthetics bent on destroying organics would be proof. You said "they have absolutely no proof", which is tantamount to saying, in this case, that there are no such examples. But, you've cleared that up so, cheers.
The Reapers make no claims of a lack of ability to cooperate, only that synthetics will eventually destroy all organics. They can get along just fine, but there's always the possibility that some other synthetics come along and start what will eventually become the extinction of all organic life. It's that fear that motivates the Reapers.
Consequently the Reapers, or even the geth, existing in a manner that they do, does not render their theory invalid. Nothing that happens in the short span of the series, renders their theory invalid.
QED, it's a stupid gripe.
@Lord_Punch said:
WrenchNinja, my advice would be to not engage in discussion or debate with The HT. The HT uses condescension, circular logic, bad logic, and will attempt to use your own words to make it seem like you are contradicting yourself when you are not. I've had these experiences with this user in other threads, including my own blog post, and it's just futile.
You sound butthurt about something, but I don't recall ever being intimate with you. Maybe you're just upset that you didn't think your words through enough and I called you out on it and you were too hip to admit you made a mistake, once upon a time on the internet?
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