Okay before I say anything please avoid just whining about the issues that need to be patched this isn't a thread about that.
What it is about is IW apparent innability to swiftly fix issues in their games or refusal to patch them at all. They did it with COD4 where it took them almost until MW2 came out to patch in a mod lock for modded controllers. Now it is also taking them a little bit longer than is sensible to patch the javelin glitch which shockling made it out of beta testing. So what I question is why on earth does it take them forever to patch things when other companies are able to find and fix issues swiftly and release a patch? Especially when your game is used by so many people ( who are complaining enough don't you see IW? ) . I don't care if the patch doesn't quite cut it just patch it enough to somewhat solve the issue while you find a more permanent solution. You don't let your boat leak through a massive hole just because you can't find a piece of hull that forms a perfect fit you just fix it and fast before your boat sinks and I think MW2 is being allowed to sink a bit.
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IW and Patches
"For those playing #MW2 on Xbox 360. The same fixes that are in 1.06 are coming to you, it's currently in Microsoft cert. Out of my hands. "
fourzerotwo
4:34 AM Dec 5th
also :
" #MW2 Javelin Glitch fix currently in test. Once it's cleared, we'll be urging it through Microsoft & Sony certification as fast as possible."
fourzerotwo
9:27 PM Dec 2nd
and:
"@ fourzerotwo Thanks for the update....I'll put pressure on from my side as well."
majornelson
9:48 PM Dec 2nd
" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "This is why they should have released an open beta, and then it would have probably been found.
I politely disagree. I would think if they throughly tested the gameplay (not the maps for glitches just pure gameplay) someone would have accidentally started to throw semtex then swaped to the javelin to run away or something and then died yes a bit outlandish but not all together odd to be discovered through several thousand hours of testing. Someone must have had it happen and ignored it as some wierd thing which them being a developer is ignorant and odd. I think this glitch is so wierd and odd it almost borders on having the question be asked of whether or not someone actually put it in the game on purpose? I think that isn't true but its almost worth asking. Also it shouldn't take more than a week to find the broken code and fix it and distribute a patch. It has been more than 2 weeks ( I think) since the glitch became heavily used and from the day it became a real issue there should have been a team looking for a fix. Its just standard post release" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "
maintenance and just because its MW2 and one of the most popular games ever doesn't mean its perfect there are issues that need fixing.
@faustyn said:
This also seems to be the issue with Microsofts cert process taking too long. They should bias to emergency situations, such as the one we have here, and get those patches out fastest. But the patch time for COD4 was still an issue and in the past IW has been picky with their patches." "For those playing #MW2 on Xbox 360. The same fixes that are in 1.06 are coming to you, it's currently in Microsoft cert. Out of my hands. "
fourzerotwo
4:34 AM Dec 5th "
That's the developer's decision not to have a beta. I remember that in the GiantBomb interview with 402 that he says they personally feel that it takes away time from doing something more productive or something. I can't really remember what he exactly said. Besides that, WAW had a open beta but as far as I'm aware it took Treyarch like 6 months to patch up this one glitch during the beta that you can go underneath the map and kill people from. You were pretty much invincible. Though I'm uncertain if it really took that long." @T0mF5 said:
" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "This is why they should have released an open beta, and then it would have probably been found. "
@Coldfront said:
" @T0mF5 said:
I politely disagree. I would think if they throughly tested the gameplay (not the maps for glitches just pure gameplay) someone would have accidentally started to throw semtex then swaped to the javelin to run away or something and then died yes a bit outlandish but not all together odd to be discovered through several thousand hours of testing. Someone must have had it happen and ignored it as some wierd thing which them being a developer is ignorant and odd. I think this glitch is so wierd and odd it almost borders on having the question be asked of whether or not someone actually put it in the game on purpose? I think that isn't true but its almost worth asking. Also it shouldn't take more than a week to find the broken code and fix it and distribute a patch. It has been more than 2 weeks ( I think) since the glitch became heavily used and from the day it became a real issue there should have been a team looking for a fix. Its just standard post release maintenance and just because its MW2 and one of the most popular games ever doesn't mean its perfect there are issues that need fixing. "" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "
By your logic then everything should be glitch free. Every game has its glitches and bugs. Some are more noticeable than the others (Fallout 3 is plagued with bugs), some aren't as much.
And someone says that its on Microsoft's end to release the patch... so... yeah.
this whole cert process was always broken. i don't even want to know what microsoft is doing with those files before releasing them. i just hope it's really in the microsofts certification process and it'll be out soon. if i die because of the javelin glitch one more time i'm going to stab a baby. anyways...are the javelin/care package/geo glitches fixed on the ps3? any psn mw2 players here?This also seems to be the issue with Microsofts cert process taking too long. They should bias to emergency situations, such as the one we have here, and get those patches out fastest. But the patch time for COD4 was still an issue and in the past IW has been picky with their patches. "
@Coldfront said:By your logic then everything should be glitch free. Every game has its glitches and bugs. Some are more noticeable than the others (Fallout 3 is plagued with bugs), some aren't as much. And someone says that its on Microsoft's end to release the patch... so... yeah. "" @T0mF5 said:
I politely disagree. I would think if they throughly tested the gameplay (not the maps for glitches just pure gameplay) someone would have accidentally started to throw semtex then swaped to the javelin to run away or something and then died yes a bit outlandish but not all together odd to be discovered through several thousand hours of testing. Someone must have had it happen and ignored it as some wierd thing which them being a developer is ignorant and odd. I think this glitch is so wierd and odd it almost borders on having the question be asked of whether or not someone actually put it in the game on purpose? I think that isn't true but its almost worth asking. Also it shouldn't take more than a week to find the broken code and fix it and distribute a patch. It has been more than 2 weeks ( I think) since the glitch became heavily used and from the day it became a real issue there should have been a team looking for a fix. Its just standard post release maintenance and just because its MW2 and one of the most popular games ever doesn't mean its perfect there are issues that need fixing. "" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "
Yes in a perfect world every glitch would be patched and we would be glitch free and the game would be as developers intend. But, seeing as there will always be bugs all I am saying is that when they prove to be a real problem as we had with the modded controllers in COD4 and javelins in MW2 they should be dealt with swiftly on the developers side. Also I responded to the fact that Microsoft has a pipeline breakdown themselves up in my post after I had already written the part you quoted
Sorry for the double post I had trouble editing the earlier one:
@faustyn said:
" @Coldfront said:this whole cert process was always broken. i don't even want to know what microsoft is doing with those files before releasing them. i just hope it's really in the microsofts certification process and it'll be out soon. if i die because of the javelin glitch one more time i'm going to stab a baby. anyways...are the javelin/care package/geo glitches fixed on the ps3? any psn mw2 players here? "This also seems to be the issue with Microsofts cert process taking too long. They should bias to emergency situations, such as the one we have here, and get those patches out fastest. But the patch time for COD4 was still an issue and in the past IW has been picky with their patches. "
Agreed also I think that the PS3 is having its own issues getting the patch out but I don't know if that is still true.
That mod fix didnt actually fix shit, people still modded around it, and modders are in MW2 as well. They are very unreliable when it comes to this, and its very evident." Okay before I say anything please avoid just whining about the issues that need to be patched this isn't a thread about that. What it is about is IW apparent innability to swiftly fix issues in their games or refusal to patch them at all. They did it with COD4 where it took them almost until MW2 came out to patch in a mod lock for modded controllers. Now it is also taking them a little bit longer than is sensible to patch the javelin glitch which shockling made it out of beta testing. So what I question is why on earth does it take them forever to patch things when other companies are able to find and fix issues swiftly and release a patch? Especially when your game is used by so many people ( who are complaining enough don't you see IW? ) . I don't care if the patch doesn't quite cut it just patch it enough to somewhat solve the issue while you find a more permanent solution. You don't let your boat leak through a massive hole just because you can't find a piece of hull that forms a perfect fit you just fix it and fast before your boat sinks and I think MW2 is being allowed to sink a bit. "
" I'm pretty curious about this as well. But this isn't nearly as bad as Gears of War 2 with a bunch of somewhat half-assed patches for the matchmaker. "Don't remind me. The developer support for Gears is the golden standard for what not to do.
Other than that, I don't know what to say. "They already have your sixty bucks" seems about right.
" @T0mF5 said:Except if the open beta had a level cap like most, the javelin might not have been able to be unlocked." You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "This is why they should have released an open beta, and then it would have probably been found. "
" @xobballox said:You can do the glitch with a lot of things not just the javelin." @T0mF5 said:Except if the open beta had a level cap like most, the javelin might not have been able to be unlocked. "" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "This is why they should have released an open beta, and then it would have probably been found. "
The Javelin glitch is a such a glaring problem theres no way its going to not be fixed asap. They want people playing their game and not being turned off by stupid exploits.
I hate these console cert processes. On PC it's the developer direct to the player. They just upload a patch and done. On consoles it's gotta go through way too many people who spend ages doing absolutely nothing until it finaly gets patched and then some other major bug gets found the day after patch and it's another 2 weeks before that gets a fix while on PC it's a few days.
" You can't honestly expect them to be able to find a glitch in beta testing, that took millions of people weeks to find out. "Then how in the world is it that Halo 3 has no glitches? (Not saying there isn't problems with the game with lag), but in terms of glitches themselves, like the superbounces from Halo 2, there aren't any, which is impressive. IW should do the same, since they KNOW they're game has to be just as high quality.
Actually I don't care about the javelin shit no more since it takes me like 30 tries to get into a game. THANKS IW FOR YOUR QUICK FIX.
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