If MW2 didn't have stopping power, this game would be so much more diverse. Plus, it'd make everyone on a level playing ground. I hate trying to differentiate my perks knowing that if I get into a firefight with someone who has stopping power, I'm most likely going to lose. 
 
I don't see why they put this perk in the game, it's stupid and overpowered. 
 
They also need to have SitRep Pro cancel out Ninja Pro, seeing as how it doesn't no one uses it, but if it did, you'd see more variety in that perk set too, don't you agree? 
 
Anyway, just wanted to get my point across. Anyone agree with me?

No it wouldn't. Guns are still 3 shot kills on average and you don't need it to win, if you use something like hardline or cold blooded you just have to change how you play. 
SitRep Pro is not used cause it's so hard to get and people just don't care enough. 
MW2 is junk, needs a whole bunch of patches.

If it starts getting to a point where we are taking bullet count:perk ratios then you are thinking way too hard about this game.

I don't think it's too bad. I mean, the other 'red' perks are about as equally as powerful, granted that you use them in the right way. Chuck on marathon, cold blooded and ninja and you're basically unstoppable. You'll end up breaking the game and running behind spawns which avoids the 1 on 1, twitch based encounters. This leaves you free to shoot your 'under powered' bullets all over the place.
 
Hardline? You'll pretty much have a constant UAV going. You'll be able to find guys with stopping power and be able to beat them 1 on 1, theres no game of reactions because you know where they are.  

Are we still seriously crying about call of  duty?

@Sammichman:  It's actually better to use stopping power on the FAL with the Holo attachment. The only effect stopping power has on the FAL (without holographic sight) is it makes headshots 1 hit kills. With the holographic sight and stopping power, the FAL kills in a maximum of 2 hits at any range. "

" @Roflwaffles said:

@Sammichman:  It's actually better to use stopping power on the FAL with the Holo attachment. The only effect stopping power has on the FAL (without holographic sight) is it makes headshots 1 hit kills. With the holographic sight and stopping power, the FAL kills in a maximum of 2 hits at any range. "

aren't they one hit anyway?  "

I agree, I'd also like to see the blast shield made more effective, instead most of the time you're lucky if it works, and it stops the ability to use the radar.

 I hate trying to differentiate my perks knowing that if I get into a firefight with someone who has stopping power, I'm most likely going to lose.

" Are we still seriously crying about call of  duty? "

I agree taking stopping power out would help a lot. However, there are a lot of guns that don't need stopping power at all. The ump basically doesn't benefit from the use of stopping power unless you are within a tight range. To me, the scar and tar dont need stopping power, but they both benefit. If you play a campy playstyle and most of your encounters occur at long range, the ACR and M4 dont need stopping power. The RPD, AUG HBAR, and L86 are all 3 shot kills at any distance w/o stopping power (though, w/ stopping power, they are two shot kills at any range, about the only way I'll use them). The FAL only benefits from stopping power if you use the holographic sight.  If you use a sniper rifle, the W2000 recieves no benefit from using stopping power, unless you are going for fmj kills. 
Guns that beg for stopping power imo include the mp5k, vector, spas, Ak-47, 30 damage LMGs, intervention, famas/m16, F2000, Model 1887(s), and most (machine) pistols. 
 
However, Cold-blooded and Lightweight have advantages of their own. And, I don't use it, but Danger Close is ever popular.

" @trophyhunter said:

" Are we still seriously crying about call of  duty? "

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" @Cramsy said:

" @Roflwaffles said:

@Sammichman:  It's actually better to use stopping power on the FAL with the Holo attachment. The only effect stopping power has on the FAL (without holographic sight) is it makes headshots 1 hit kills. With the holographic sight and stopping power, the FAL kills in a maximum of 2 hits at any range. "

aren't they one hit anyway?  "

Not every gun kills in one hit to head. The M4, for example, takes at least 2 shots to the head to kill a person. "

" @Cramsy said:

" @Roflwaffles said:

@Sammichman:  It's actually better to use stopping power on the FAL with the Holo attachment. The only effect stopping power has on the FAL (without holographic sight) is it makes headshots 1 hit kills. With the holographic sight and stopping power, the FAL kills in a maximum of 2 hits at any range. "

aren't they one hit anyway?  "

No. Each player has 100 health. The FAL does 55 damage at max. damage is multiplied 1.4x to the head with the FAL, so it only does 77 without stopping power. "

I play hardcore so I don't see what the problem is...

Why complain about stopping power when the ump + (any perk combo) is madness. This game has balance issues.

if they got rid of stopping power theyd need to put a decent perk in its place 
theres no other perk in tier 2 that has the mass appeal of SP, except cold blooded 
if everyone used cold blooded thermal and kill streaks would be useless which would nullify all the effort put into them 

Yet another MW2 complaint thread. Compared to other perks its more underpowered

the game needs juggernaut 
before you say  OMFG!! YOUR A FAG
think about it........ it would make the assault rifles less horribly noob friendly
noob tubes might be a little more survivable and it wasn't that bad in Cod 4 
i mean it takes one more shot about.......... if you have stopping power the better player should win the gunfight  

this game does not need juggernaut

I don't know, play hardcore or something.  Then it takes one or two shots with everything.
 
I usually play with coldblooded or hardline anyway

Juggernaut is an awful idea. No one should survive a shot from a thumper, I don't care how lame it is to use. If I shotgun you in the face I'm going to be pissed if you survive. 
 
Also, Stopping power is nothing compared to lightweight marathon commando.

ump is over powered because it has 100% accuracy and little recoil

If you hit them, it only takes like 3 bullets with any gun. 

I love SitRep Pro, its all I use in hardcore matches because even people creeping cant sneak up on me

List of the things that make MW 2 suck.

" @Sammichman: You clearly haven't played enough without stopping power if that is your argument. Unlike you I don't run around with an M16 or ump45 with stopping power. Most guns take a lot more than 3 bullets. With any other perk, it's hard to pull off a kill against someone at distance and moving, stopping power will take them down quickly.  SitRep pro isn't used because it doesn't let you hear people with ninja pro, which makes the whole point of that perk useless. People would go out of their way to get the pro version if it was actually useful. "

No, stopping power doesn't even make a difference with most of the popular guns like the scar and the UMP. The reason no one uses sitrep pro is because no one has it. Grow a pair, can't believe people are still moaning about MW2.

Stopping Power is not overpowered, and is really not needed if you know what you're doing. I mostly use Cold Blooded, which is a much better perk in my opinion, unless I use a shotgun class where I use SP because it relies heavily on one-shot kills.