OPEN WORLD and SANDBOX concepts? The same?

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#1  Edited By viking

Are there any differences between the open world and sandbox concepts? (except their names obviously) :-)

I just got a bit confused of which to use when you're about to link these kind of concepts to a game.
But if there aren't any differences, then perhaps a merger of the two concepts is in order? What do you think?

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#2  Edited By Out_On_Bail
@HeyLookIJust: Like what?  Elaborate on your post please?
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#3  Edited By TheMustacheHero

Open world is just that you can go around in the open world and basically take on objectives from a different angle.

Sandbox games mean that you normally have various vehicles, weapons, and tools and generally harass pedestrian AI or goof off with friends, sort of like Saints Row 2 or Garry's Mod.

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#4  Edited By JoelTGM

yeah they both mean you can openly explore the world and do what you want, like it's your own sandbox.

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#5  Edited By TwoOneFive
@Out_On_Bail said:
" @HeyLookIJust: Like what?  Elaborate on your post please? "
it was a sarcastic joke- read it again...slowly. 
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#6  Edited By Out_On_Bail
@TwoOneFive: I did, 3 times now and I still don't get the joke.  I must be having an off day?
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#7  Edited By DarkGamerOO7
@Out_On_Bail said:
" @HeyLookIJust: Like what?  Elaborate on your post please? "
Battlefield = Sandbox
Grand Theft Auto 4 = Open World.

If you know anything about either series you will see the difference between the two concepts.
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#8  Edited By roushimsx

Open world allows you to roam around and explore a large area. Even something like Headhunter on PS2/Dreamcast could be considered an "open world" game.

Sandbox games seem to be defined by games that are "open world" while having "asshole physics" (or emergent gameplay. whatever). Crackdown, GTA San Andreas, Oblivion, etc.

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#9  Edited By vager

A sandbox game is a game with no clear objectives. Players create their own goals or objectives if they wish. GTA is both, Battlefield is neither.

Ultima Online is a sandbox MMO.
Simcity is also a Sandbox game.

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#10  Edited By YoConraaa

FUEL is open world, for instance. You can free-roam, but the interaction to the scenario (destruction, for example) is, well, limited.


Sandbox games tend to be open worlded, or at least you have big areas to explore ( take BF Bad Company for example, you roam around and interact with the scenario). A good example of non-open sandbox is LBP... You can create and interact heavily to the scenario but you can get out of that basic right-to-left-to-right space...

Am I right?
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#11  Edited By Out_On_Bail

Ok I think I get it then.  Also I just realized this is a conversation we should of had 11 months ago.. :P



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#12  Edited By atejas

Baldur's Gate is open world
STALKER is sandbox.

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#13  Edited By Steve_C

Sandbox games are really open world games, but the game would have lots of tools and mechanics for you to use to mix things up, creating emergent gameplay opportunities.

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#14  Edited By CowMuffins

Open World games have a wide terrain, and are not linear.
Sand Box games have an open world, but you can do many different things in them. Sandbox games allow you to have varied gameplay with different "tools" or "weapons".

So, sand box games are more of a sub genre of open world games.

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#15  Edited By Manatassi

LMAO @ 11 month delayed response!!!



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#16  Edited By viking

OH MY GOD! MY THREAD IS ALIVE!

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#17  Edited By PowerSerj

Haha

I think @Vager: has the correct answer.

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#18  Edited By cloneslayer

You can have a open world game without being sandbox, but you can't have a sandbox game not be open world (at least not by my definitions)

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#19  Edited By Scooper
@Cloneslayer said:
" You can have a open world game without being sandbox, but you can't have a sandbox game not be open world (at least not by my definitions) "
Garry's Mod are LittleBigPlant are sandbox games yet aren't open world.
Sonic Adventure is an open world game yet not a sandbox.
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#20  Edited By jkz

Sandbox games allow you to manipulate more elements of the world, and while this can be in an open world game (see: open-world sandbox), they aren't necessary. Neither is a qualifier for the other, but neither is either of them exclusive

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#21  Edited By Pie

All open world games fit into the sand box category but their are some sand box games (gary's mod) that aint open world

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@Pie said:
" All open world games fit into the sand box category but their are some sand box games (gary's mod) that aint open world "
Yep 
Open world is when the player is given a huge world to explore and interact with in a lot of ways 
a Sandbox is when the player is given tools to create a world or to modify a world

But that's just my way of seeing it
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#23  Edited By sjschmidt93
@HeyLookIJust said:
" @viking: There is a big difference between the two concepts.  Very similar however there are key differences. "
Well maybe you should actually
say those key differences rather than pretending like you know what they are... eh?

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