The 1/5 star Patrick are so awesome! I also enjoy 3 haha
Patrick Klepek
Senior reporter at Waypoint, former senior reporter at Kotaku and former news editor at Giant Bomb. He began a career in gaming journalism at fourteen, and once served as a news editor for G4TV. He has been credited in the "special thanks" sections of Guitar Hero II and The Silver Lining.
It's Cartoon Review Patrick!
This looks like SMBC. Good stuff.
edit: Of course, Patrick never gets 5 star games since he always picks up the weirder titles.
They look really great! Well done.
@Sarkahn said:
@papercut said:
Gonna be totally honest. Didn't know they were getting rid of the art. When did this happen?
They mentioned it in one of the Whiskey Media Radio shows. The reason being that the art doesn't necessarily reflect the content of the review. The example they gave is Jeff's 3 star art, which screams "Meh". Whereas 3 stars is usually meant to represent a decent game. Something along those lines.
Ugh, I'm baffled by this. Just get rid of scores if they've gotten so important as to start removing aspects of the site, especially when they lash out at anyone anytime they complain about scores. It's increasingly frustrating hearing journalists and critics complaining about how scores are percieved when they are the ones that choose to maintain them, despite the cries of how important "just reading the review" is.
I thought Jeff wanted to get rid of the cartoons. They might not use these review avatars after the site redesign is up.
@Marokai said:
They look really great! Well done.
@Sarkahn said:
@papercut said:
Gonna be totally honest. Didn't know they were getting rid of the art. When did this happen?
They mentioned it in one of the Whiskey Media Radio shows. The reason being that the art doesn't necessarily reflect the content of the review. The example they gave is Jeff's 3 star art, which screams "Meh". Whereas 3 stars is usually meant to represent a decent game. Something along those lines.
Ugh, I'm baffled by this. Just get rid of scores if they've gotten so important as to start removing aspects of the site, especially when they lash out at anyone anytime they complain about scores. It's increasingly frustrating hearing journalists and critics complaining about how scores are percieved when they are the ones that choose to maintain them, despite the cries of how important "just reading the review" is.
Because if you do a review, all that is is recommending a game to somebody. Scores are the quick way to glance at it. What if you thought a game was pretty meh, you see a 3 star score and you go okay and skip the review. If that same game got a 5 star review you'd probably read the review. That's a helpful tool.
Not like it matters, not only are they getting rid of the cartoons review portraits...they're thinking about getting rid of reviews period and just throw pieces up on games they played.
@Doctorchimp: I guess all I'm really getting at is that I just dislike the disconnect they have between how much reviewers in general complain about people pigeonholing review scores, and how everyone should just "read the review," and how far some reviewers go to then make sure they never actually get rid of the review scores. It's a problem they themselves create and they themselves can solve. I understand that in a larger and more mainstream establishment video game site, say IGN or Gamespot, scores may serve well for the passerby type of browser, but Giant Bomb is still a more niche site that maintains a relatively loyal base. People aren't going to ditch the site en masse because they remove scores.
The type of consumer who bases their purchasing decisions on reviews and critical advice is probably the type of consumer willing to dig a little deeper. I just don't think there's a huge amount of room between the informed consumer that reads a lot before a purchase and a consumer that buys without thinking much about critics, and rather just how the game looks. That just feels like a small group of people.
As far as them removing reviews altogether, I definitely think that's the best way to go, to be honest. I question what reviews are even for, at this point, and have for a pretty long time. It's always seemed like an archaic feature for a site that otherwise embraces more of a personality driven and entertainment-based role. Quick Looks are superior purchasing advice, IMO, to a review score. The review scores just seem like a means to stay on metacritic and forum conversations, or as badges of honor to developers and publishers. Scores do more for the score aggregates and developers than they do for the public.
@Marokai said:
@Doctorchimp: I guess all I'm really getting at is that I just dislike the disconnect they have between how much reviewers in general complain about people pigeonholing review scores, and how everyone should just "read the review," and how far some reviewers go to then make sure they never actually get rid of the review scores. It's a problem they themselves create and they themselves can solve. I understand that in a larger and more mainstream establishment video game site, say IGN or Gamespot, scores may serve well for the passerby type of browser, but Giant Bomb is still a more niche site that maintains a relatively loyal base. People aren't going to ditch the site en masse because they remove scores.
The type of consumer who bases their purchasing decisions on reviews and critical advice is probably the type of consumer willing to dig a little deeper. I just don't think there's a huge amount of room between the informed consumer that reads a lot before a purchase and a consumer that buys without thinking much about critics, and rather just how the game looks. That just feels like a small group of people.
As far as them removing reviews altogether, I definitely think that's the best way to go, to be honest. I question what reviews are even for, at this point, and have for a pretty long time. It's always seemed like an archaic feature for a site that otherwise embraces more of a personality driven and entertainment-based role. Quick Looks are superior purchasing advice, IMO, to a review score. The review scores just seem like a means to stay on metacritic and forum conversations, or as badges of honor to developers and publishers. Scores do more for the score aggregates and developers than they do for the public.
Exactly, I mean think about how much they rant and raved and talked about Saint's Row the Third. The review was rather unassuming compared to the life changing ethos they described.
They look really nice.
But I have a problem with the 2 star picture. Including his hand with fingers gives a wrong impression. His tongue helps clarify, but at first glance its hard to tell if its a 2 or a 4 star.
@papercut said:
@Sarkahn said:
Very cool, five-star Patrick is amaaazing! Nicely done.
@papercut said:
Gonna be totally honest. Didn't know they were getting rid of the art. When did this happen?
They mentioned it in one of the Whiskey Media Radio shows. The reason being that the art doesn't necessarily reflect the content of the review. The example they gave is Jeff's 3 star art, which screams "Meh". Whereas 3 stars is usually meant to represent a decent game. Something along those lines.
Well poop :P
And yet they still haven't AND they promoted this thread on the front page. So maybe they decided to keep 'em. I mean people are gonna whine and bitch about the star reviews anyway, and I personally like the graphics.
@Undeadpool said:
@papercut said:
@Sarkahn said:
Very cool, five-star Patrick is amaaazing! Nicely done.
@papercut said:
Gonna be totally honest. Didn't know they were getting rid of the art. When did this happen?
They mentioned it in one of the Whiskey Media Radio shows. The reason being that the art doesn't necessarily reflect the content of the review. The example they gave is Jeff's 3 star art, which screams "Meh". Whereas 3 stars is usually meant to represent a decent game. Something along those lines.
Well poop :P
And yet they still haven't AND they promoted this thread on the front page. So maybe they decided to keep 'em. I mean people are gonna whine and bitch about the star reviews anyway, and I personally like the graphics.
http://www.giantbomb.com/community/
Yeah, they have? At least, I saw it there yesterday.
@WilltheMagicAsian: I know...I was saying it's on the front page and the graphics are still there in reviews, so maybe they're not getting rid of the cartoons after all.
@Undeadpool said:
@WilltheMagicAsian: I know...I was saying it's on the front page and the graphics are still there in reviews, so maybe they're not getting rid of the cartoons after all.
Oh man, I totally read that wrong, my bad! I thought you said they haven't promoted this thread on the front page.
@WilltheMagicAsian said:
@Undeadpool said:
@WilltheMagicAsian: I know...I was saying it's on the front page and the graphics are still there in reviews, so maybe they're not getting rid of the cartoons after all.
Oh man, I totally read that wrong, my bad! I thought you said they haven't promoted this thread on the front page.
Haw! No worries, just a little confusion.
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