Sometimes value isn't enough, that's the point of my post here, having like 10-15% advantage for the gtx480 dispite price is more important. Having better drivers is more important and having cuda and physX support. If we all think we must go value or best bang for your buck for example, then we all should not use i7 processors and just get a AMD phenom X4 or whatever they made these days that no one except budget gamers cares about. No wonder ati/amd works together, bringing second rate products with good value to the market. If that's their business practice good for them, if you want power, reliability and drivers if price is not a concern, go nvidia and intel. Second rate products doesn't actually make you better or give you entitlement for value because your in second place. Value is just an excuse for those who doesn't need the best product to brag about their second rate product.
Even if you think ati is leading now, it's obvious fermi hasn't been released yet. Ati did that same thing last gen of gpus, the hd4850, hd4870, everyone upgraded then got screwed when nvidia offered the gtx275 and gtx285, then they upgraded again to nvidia when they should of waited. Most of the hd4850 from other ppl I know had their cards fail, due to overheating, breaking and it stuttering non stop. This gen the hd5850 and hd5870 seems to figure out how to make a slightly better heatsink, however i'm not ever going to get an ati card, what if fermi cards later on has better drivers and more performance? To say the hd5850 tied with gtx470 is not true, sure there were alot of ties, however there were alot of instances depending where you read the benchmarks, the gtx470 outbenches ati's card. I will overclock it and probally votage tweak it to make up the difference. Having a new architecture will still be helpful imo for the fermi cards. I know this gen it seems like ati put a dent in the market share, I say it's nothing, just another trend of the hd4850/4870 being their first before the market realised they should of waited and bought nvidia as usual. If ppl likes geting screwed because they belive they should buy whatever is at the market at the time they want, they are just going to have to upgrade ealier again back to nvidia. If they release the fermi cards, it will sell like hotcakes. Don't try to convince me otherwise, I am unconvinced at ati right now and it's about trust, I trust nvidia to give me good drivers, a good heatsink, non stuttering framerates, fastest card dispite the price and a reliable product.
Okay looking online, I found some canadian sites that now lowered their price to near $330, that's really cheap for a hd5850 and it even has a heatsink with it which will save me money from buying one and installing it voiding my waranty. However I still say no because it will still have all the faults i've mentioned. I will regret all the features like physX, cuda, drivers, better screenshots since my friend posted screenshots from his ati hd5870, looked worst than his gtx295. It's a problem because I post screenshots all the time. Sometimes saying no to compromises really is saying yes to a better product later on imo.
In conclusion, value = excuse for being second rate, nvidia = higher price, higher performance.
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