Gamersgate vs STEAM

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#1 Posted by mrhankey (781 posts) -

So my brother bought me Dead Space for $7 off of Gamersgate for xmas, or part of xmas. I'm wondering what you all think of Gamersgate. Dead Space will not install, it keeps asking for a disk, and as a digital copy this shouldn't be an issue. But my story aside...have you used it? and what do you think of it compared to steam?

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#2 Edited by ShadowKnight508 (780 posts) -

I use Steam, but it has been acting up recently on both my PC and Mac when I try to update Left4Dead and Left4Dead 2, so I am kinda on the fence about it. 
 
As for GamersGate, I have never heard of it before. I might have to look into it.

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#3 Posted by HitmanAgent47 (8553 posts) -

Never heard of it.

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#4 Posted by crusader8463 (14757 posts) -

I use Steam for all my games, Impulse for the one or two exclusives they put up, and just recently I started using Games for Windows live whenever they have games on sale there for 99 cents- so I can't give any comparisons for gamersgate. Based on my experience though, I would just use steam. Other then a few updating problems from time to time I have yet to have a single problem with steam.

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#5 Posted by Seedofpower (4059 posts) -

I always though Steam was the standard. More and more publisher/developers are turning to them for their PC needs. Granted at different times you could have a game cheap somewhere else but the odds are very good that the same game would be just as cheap or cheaper at some point on steam.

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#6 Posted by sins_of_mosin (1713 posts) -

I've also never heard of it.  I bought Civ V from direct2drive because they had a better pre-order.

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#7 Posted by CobaltThunder (10 posts) -

I've heard of both, but I have never heard anyone talk about using GamersGate. Everyone seems to be using Steam, and perhaps for good reason. 
 
I don't think many of us are liable to an opinion since most of us have never used, nor even heard of GamersGate, but I think Steam is probably better.

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#8 Posted by TheKeyboardDemon (870 posts) -

I prefer getting games that run through Steam, the last game that I bought on DVD was Alien vs Predator, I found it really cheap online, but as it is activated on Steam I didn't even have to take the DVD out of the case, I just activated the Steam code and it downloaded and installed the lated version. I hate having to swap disks to play different games. Windows Live still insists that the Disk is kept in the drive, so it sort of defeats the purpose.
 
EA also have something called the EADM (download manager) that allows users to go to the EA Store, but strangely this will not apply the latest updates to games or let you buy DLC, so all it really does is act like a launcher and buy new downloadable versions of games or activate game keys for products that you've purchased. They covered nearly everything that they needed to, but then stopped at updating the software and giving users access to DLC, which I think is pointless. I have not tried Gamersgate, and reading that you needed a disk to run a game has already put me off looking at it.

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#9 Posted by President_Barackbar (3610 posts) -

Steam is, quite simply, the best platform for digital distribution. No two ways about it.

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#10 Posted by Darko (141 posts) -
@mrhankey said:
" So my brother bought me Dead Space for $7 off of Gamersgate for xmas, or part of xmas. I'm wondering what you all think of Gamersgate. Dead Space will not install, it keeps asking for a disk, and as a digital copy this shouldn't be an issue. But my story aside...have you used it? and what do you think of it compared to steam? "
Can't comment on Gamers Gate, since I haven't used it, but you should be able to solve the problem of it asking for a CD by using a cracked exe. Try gamecopyworld.com
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#11 Posted by Daiphyer (1481 posts) -

Some how, I kept reading the title Gertsmangate vs Steam. I'm like what does Jeff have to do with steam?!

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#12 Posted by l3illyl3ob (310 posts) -

GamersGate carved out a niche by catering to people who enjoy Eastern European developed games.  They also sell other major AAA titles, but they don't seem to make up the bulk of their business.  Like Paradox Interactive's games (I do)?  Then you'll like GamersGate.  I don't have many games through them, but my experiences with them have always been positive.
 
Of course, nothing beats Steam in the convenience category.  They go all out in creating a consumer experience, that goes far beyond just another store. That's what puts Steam miles ahead of every single other digital distribution service, GamersGate included. 

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#13 Posted by Hamst3r (5254 posts) -

I have a few games via GamersGate: Penumbra Requiem and Bionic Commando Rearmed. They seem to work just fine, so no complaints. :)

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#14 Posted by mithhunter55 (1005 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" Steam is, quite simply, the best platform for digital distribution. No two ways about it. "
It is and now i am also to far down the 'rabbit hole' I want all my games to be on their platform now that I have invested so much. I also trust Valve more then any other company. Not like Microsoft is going to disappear but GFWlive could go in a  direct I wouldn't like. Valve wont be going any where either but they are greatly invested in the success of their platform, I can be assured my games and their support inst going any where. 
 
99th post :)
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#15 Posted by HaroldoNVU (623 posts) -

GamersGate is pretty decent. some of their games, specially the older ones are DRM free which is a plus for some people. Like L3illy3ob it has a nice selection of european developed games, if that's your thing. Contact GamersGate support, if that's a common problem they'll know how to handle. 
 
Like others here, I favor Steam because it's kind of becoming a standard for PC game but if a game I want won't have any special benefits from being on steam (achievements, steam cloud, etc) than I'll look for it on other services as well.

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#16 Posted by capt_ventris (658 posts) -

I use Gamersgate to get hold of all my Paradox titles. It's better for those games then Steam as there is no game client required. 
Also the expansions tend to come out earlier on Gamersgate.  As for a Steam vs Gamersgate debate, I find both digital platforms to be quite useful in helping me avoid EB. 

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#17 Posted by Jimbo (10472 posts) -

I've used GG maybe a dozen times and never had any problems with it.

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#18 Posted by mrhankey (781 posts) -

I'm a huge fan of STEAM, but I'm also a sucker for good deals, and since I wanted two games for xmas, from my brother Amnesia Desk Descent and Dead Space, he got them for me at STEAM and Gamersgate--respectively. Also...to @Darko:  I'm not going to get a crack, I bought this game and it should work.

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#19 Posted by zudthespud (3332 posts) -

How does gamersgate work? Is there a client like Steam? I just went over to have a look, and they have TDU for sale, which I've been meaning to get. 

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#20 Posted by Cwaff (1317 posts) -
@HitmanAgent47 said:
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Never heard of it.

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I do love Steam though.
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#21 Posted by melcene (3214 posts) -

I've also never heard of it but I don't use Steam either.  I prefer in-my-hand, pretty box and all, hard copies.

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#22 Posted by Pinworm45 (4069 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" Steam is, quite simply, the best platform for digital distribution. No two ways about it. "
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#23 Posted by HaroldoNVU (623 posts) -
@mrhankey: this is from their FAQ: " 
  • Please insert CD/DVD in drive C:

    This problem may be due to...

    1.You have got a demo of the game installed. Make sure you uninstall the demo before installing the full game.

    2. You have patched the game with a patch for the disc version of the game. You must use a patch for a digital version of the game. If you cant find such patch on the official web sit or at the My Games section at GamersGate, please provide us the patch number and we will ask the developers about it.

    3. Sometimes the "Run" option in Windows will not work. Download the file and double click it intead.

    4. Network storage will not work. You must download and install on local drives.

     

    If you need assistance, you can send an email to support@gamersgate.com and you will be helped promptly."

    @zudthespud: It has no unified client like steam or impulse. you just download a downloader file, run it and it will download the game. then you have to install and if it has some kind of DRM you'll need to activate it. Test Drive uses SecuROM.

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    #24 Posted by sammo21 (5294 posts) -
    @mrhankey: I typically refuse to buy any PC titles outside of disc or STEAM, with the only exception being if Blizzard forms any advantages for getting digital over physical...and since I buy all Blizzard special editions I don't see that happening.  I don't like to have that many different potential clients, especially when I can just install a disc based game and run it through STEAM.  No thanks.  Also, I like the Valve/Steam model so I like to support it.
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    #25 Posted by LordAndrew (14601 posts) -
    @zudthespud said:
    " How does gamersgate work? Is there a client like Steam? I just went over to have a look, and they have TDU for sale, which I've been meaning to get.  "
    It seems it did require a client until 2009. But Wikipedia's also presenting me with a riddle about something called a Micro-Download, which I am unable to decipher.
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    #26 Edited by Animasta (14903 posts) -

    Gamersgate is actually pretty good (It's where I bought all those crazy Paradox strategy games) You just download the installer, then it downloads. Once it installs, you can keep the files it downloaded in case you need to install again. I THINK you can do it over multiple computers too, and since it has no contact with an online server, you can both play at once. As far as I remember, anyway.
     
    no client, either.

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    #27 Posted by Geno (6768 posts) -
    @LordAndrew said:
    " @zudthespud said:
    " How does gamersgate work? Is there a client like Steam? I just went over to have a look, and they have TDU for sale, which I've been meaning to get.  "
    It seems it did require a client until 2009. But Wikipedia's also presenting me with a riddle about something called a Micro-Download, which I am unable to decipher. "
    It's like Macro-Download, but smaller. 
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    #28 Posted by CptChiken (2058 posts) -

    I have never heard of it.

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    #29 Posted by HaroldoNVU (623 posts) -
    @Laketown said:
    " Gamersgate is actually pretty good (It's where I bought all those crazy Paradox strategy games) You just download the installer, then it downloads. Once it installs, you can keep the files it downloaded in case you need to install again. I THINK you can do it over multiple computers too, and since it has no contact with an online server, you can both play at once. As far as I remember, anyway. no client, either. "
    I think you can. However most games have some kind of DRM, usually SecuROM. Acording to them it's pretty easy to reset activations but I never tried. I'm thinking of buying a cheap game to test this, install it on all my computers and request for a activation reset. 
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    #30 Posted by mrhankey (781 posts) -
    @HaroldoNVU:  I've tried everything they suggest on their sit to no avail, currently awaiting an email from them.  
     
    @sammo21:  As stated earlier, $7 Dead Space was just too good to pass up. But for the most part I stick with steam.
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    #31 Posted by Capum15 (5699 posts) -

    I'm in the boat of people not having heard of  it.

    I use the everloving hell out of Steam though. It's awesome.

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    #32 Posted by mrhankey (781 posts) -

    For anyone that is interested....
     
    For my copy of Dead Space to work, purchased off of Gamersgate. I had to redownload it with my RealTime Virus Scan turned off as apparently McAfee was causing issues with the download. This somehow got me an installer that realized it was digitally distributed as opposed to bought from a retail store. I find it very disconcerting that I had to disable my virus scan to download a game. Your thoughts....

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    #33 Posted by essi2 (187 posts) -

    I use Steam, Impulse and GamerGate. I have yet to have any problems with GG (which is more then I can say for the 2 others), but I for the most part only use it for Paradox Interactive and 1C games.

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    #34 Posted by Animasta (14903 posts) -
    @mrhankey said:
    " For anyone that is interested....  For my copy of Dead Space to work, purchased off of Gamersgate. I had to redownload it with my RealTime Virus Scan turned off as apparently McAfee was causing issues with the download. This somehow got me an installer that realized it was digitally distributed as opposed to bought from a retail store. I find it very disconcerting that I had to disable my virus scan to download a game. Your thoughts.... "
    that could just be dead space, because I've installed... 5-6 games from them and I never had any problems
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    #35 Edited by Driadon (3215 posts) -

    I've used Gamer's Gate a few times, has some decent prices every now and again. 
     They also have some good service over there, who I'm sure would be more than willing to help get your Dead Space running.  
     
    @mrhankey said: 

    " For anyone that is interested....  For my copy of Dead Space to work, purchased off of Gamersgate. I had to redownload it with my RealTime Virus Scan turned off as apparently McAfee was causing issues with the download. This somehow got me an installer that realized it was digitally distributed as opposed to bought from a retail store. I find it very disconcerting that I had to disable my virus scan to download a game. Your thoughts.... "

    McAfee  is terrible for that. An older version of it I used back in '03 decided that Steam was a trojan and locked up whenever it tried to scan the Steam directory.
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    #36 Posted by theherbivorousbig (61 posts) -

    I've never used gamersgate, but they've got Mass Effect 2 on sale for $8 right now. Definitely considering grabbing it.

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    #37 Posted by ned_perfel (23 posts) -

    Have used D2D, Impulse, GG, and Steam
     
    Only one I've had problems with is Steam.

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    #38 Posted by ned_perfel (23 posts) -
    @mrhankey said:
    " For anyone that is interested....  For my copy of Dead Space to work, purchased off of Gamersgate. I had to redownload it with my RealTime Virus Scan turned off as apparently McAfee was causing issues with the download. This somehow got me an installer that realized it was digitally distributed as opposed to bought from a retail store. I find it very disconcerting that I had to disable my virus scan to download a game. Your thoughts.... "
    I find it very disconcerting that anyone uses McAfee.
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    #39 Posted by mrfizzy (1663 posts) -

    iv never heard of it. i use both Steam and gog.com. personally i find gog to be a better/simpler service, but Steam is still really good. 

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    #40 Posted by BounceDK (169 posts) -

    No useless client needs to connect when you want to play a game purchased via gamersgate or impulse. It's only steam that is using old drm tech.

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    #41 Posted by mrhankey (781 posts) -
    @ned_perfel:  
     
    free from my university, never had any viruses....so don't see why you'd find that disconcerting.
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    #42 Posted by drcocktopus (61 posts) -

    Nothing is ahead of Steam, imo...

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    #43 Posted by pekoe212 (523 posts) -

    I buy everything I can on Steam, but there are a number of RPGs/adventures that Steam never acquires. Gamersgate is good for all the European games that never get released in North America, or if I just don't want to wait months or years for it. I've never had any problems with Gamersgate.

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    #44 Posted by NikFreaX (39 posts) -

    Steam > Gamersgate
     
     IMO.

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    #45 Posted by WickedCestus (3781 posts) -

    Gamersgate sounds like a stupid name for the trial between the Government of California and the ESRB.

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    #46 Posted by salad10203 (679 posts) -

    Just played Dead Space on steam, had no problems.  

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    #47 Posted by Mikemcn (8175 posts) -

    No clue what gamersgate is but, I have had no problems with Steam. 

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