If not, any suggestions on to improve temperatures? I have been recommended the Accelero GTX Pro as a replacement, but I can't afford it at the moment. Would a TIM change help? Credit card method? Pea method? Rice method? Line method?
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GTX 275 55 C idle, 95 C 100% load. Safe?
My EVGA GTX 275 also ran kinda hot. Not that hot, about 40-50 idle and anywhere from 65-70 up to almost 90 under load. Download Rivatuner or equivalent and turn up the fan to 70-85% before you start up a game.
" Open your case and put it off the ground, and put it near some fans.If you can't do that, put moar fans in case. "Wouldn't leaving the case open make it worse because you need the vortex of sorts to keep the cool air circulating?
Not saying for sure, just seems logical.
" @KaosAngel said:Your right. Unless the case is literally just a metal box with no ventilation, then taking the side-panel off will just make things worse." Open your case and put it off the ground, and put it near some fans.If you can't do that, put moar fans in case. "Wouldn't leaving the case open make it worse because you need the vortex of sorts to keep the cool air circulating?Not saying for sure, just seems logical. "
I kept the case open with a regular fan (for people, not PCs) directly on the case. My temps are now 43 C idle, 75 100% load. this is only a temporary solution though.
It's fun taking your gpu apart and putting this thing on it. Believe me, I know. Or simply get a new pc case if your pc case can't keep your card cool.
Whats your case? Some proper ventilation should do the trick.
Edit: With those temps and your fan at 100%, your card either is broken, has broken fans, or your mobo is broken. There is no way it should be 55c idle with 100%. I have a 280gtx stock and it idles at 49c with automatic fans (<30%)
What is your fan speed/GPU temp ratio?
my GTX 275 is the evga superclocked edition. i've tried overclocking, but performance improvement was only 4 fps difference at the highest stable clocks.
btw, my house temp is about 85 F. No A/C here
I still recommend you get a new pc case, that doesn't have enough airflow.
" GTX 260 is 100-105 @ load. Still has not melted yet. Somehow.Since youre also in the 200 series I would say start looking for a new card : P "You are kidding, right? The only thing our cards can't do is DX11. And maybe full-load AA'd Crysis. I can play every game I own maxed with AA...
I always thought you're supposed to upgrade every two to three generations or once your card is struggling on the second-highest settings.
Personally I just like to upgrade when it feels right. Right now with the state of the GPU and CPU market it feels right. I might wait for the next gen graphics cards though.
" @Ineedaname said:You guys still believe in Santa too?" @KaosAngel said:Your right. Unless the case is literally just a metal box with no ventilation, then taking the side-panel off will just make things worse." Open your case and put it off the ground, and put it near some fans.If you can't do that, put moar fans in case. "Wouldn't leaving the case open make it worse because you need the vortex of sorts to keep the cool air circulating?Not saying for sure, just seems logical. "Invest in a GPU fan and/or better ventilation."
That's the problem. If you take off the side-panel, you lose air-flow. Where before there was a fan, you now have essentially static air." @GetEveryone said:
" @Ineedaname said:You guys still believe in Santa too?" @KaosAngel said:Your right. Unless the case is literally just a metal box with no ventilation, then taking the side-panel off will just make things worse." Open your case and put it off the ground, and put it near some fans.If you can't do that, put moar fans in case. "Wouldn't leaving the case open make it worse because you need the vortex of sorts to keep the cool air circulating?Not saying for sure, just seems logical. "
Invest in a GPU fan and/or better ventilation.
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P.S. taking the side panel off will improve your cooling unless for some reason your room temp is higher.
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The system still gets hotter, and assuming your room isn't an ice-box, the air-flow is minimal and unlikely to actually cool anything.
" @Kidavenger said:When I take a sauna, I leave the door open, makes it hotter, don't tell them my secret guys." @GetEveryone said:That's the problem. If you take off the side-panel, you gain ventilation, but without cooling." @Ineedaname said:You guys still believe in Santa too?" @KaosAngel said:Your right. Unless the case is literally just a metal box with no ventilation, then taking the side-panel off will just make things worse." Open your case and put it off the ground, and put it near some fans.If you can't do that, put moar fans in case. "Wouldn't leaving the case open make it worse because you need the vortex of sorts to keep the cool air circulating?Not saying for sure, just seems logical. "Invest in a GPU fan and/or better ventilation."P.S. taking the side panel off will improve your cooling unless for some reason your room temp is higher."The system still gets hotter, and assuming your room isn't an ice-box, the air-flow is minimal and unlikely to actually cool anything."
The air temperature isn't changing around the computer because the fan isn't able to regulate it.
In a sauna, the steam may be allowed to escape with the door open, but, bar the initial influx of cool air, the heat emitting object would not cool. It is still giving off the same amount of heat, though the air around it isn't as efficiently heated. Your comparison doesn't fly. Well, certainly not in your favour.
What an obnoxious, ignorant ass.
" The air temperature isn't changing around the computer because the fan isn't able to regulate it.When you open up that case, you remove a layer of insulation between the inside of the case and the room allowing free airflow which equalizes the temperature between the two."
In a sauna, the steam may be allowed to escape with the door open, but, bar the initial influx of cool air, the heat emitting object would not cool. It is still giving off the same amount of heat, though the air around it isn't as efficiently heated. Your comparison doesn't fly. Well, certainly not in your favour.
What an obnoxious, ignorant ass.
" @Kidavenger said:That is utterly wrong. Learn your basics when it comes to air pressure and heat dissipation. Every pro benchmarker runs their gear on a open, caseless system." @GetEveryone said:That's the problem. If you take off the side-panel, you gain ventilation, but without cooling." @Ineedaname said:You guys still believe in Santa too?" @KaosAngel said:Your right. Unless the case is literally just a metal box with no ventilation, then taking the side-panel off will just make things worse." Open your case and put it off the ground, and put it near some fans.If you can't do that, put moar fans in case. "Wouldn't leaving the case open make it worse because you need the vortex of sorts to keep the cool air circulating?Not saying for sure, just seems logical. "Invest in a GPU fan and/or better ventilation."P.S. taking the side panel off will improve your cooling unless for some reason your room temp is higher."The system still gets hotter, and assuming your room isn't an ice-box, the air-flow is minimal and unlikely to actually cool anything."
" @Kidavenger: I'm speaking from the perspective of having a decent cooling system. I have six fans supplying constant, cool air inside my case. At the moment, my bedroom is probably about 60 degrees. If I took off the side panel, the inside temp would increase. Granted, even if you have one case fan, it's going to be better than just removing the side-panel completely.Then you don't know what you're talking about. They do use Dry Ice pots but the always have their gear mounted OUTSIDE of a case. Look up any benchmarking vids. Also, there are Skeleton Cases which are made by Antec which are produced especially for the kinds of high performance gaming systems which need extreme amounts of ventilation. Honestly man, you're way out of your depth and you shouldn't be arguing with people about things you barely understand.I never said it would get hotter (with regard to your sauna comparison), I only said that the components would remain at the same temperature without proper cooling. That is, taking the side panel off, and reducing the air-flow is less effective than having a fan. Obviously, if you have a hot component in a tin case, it's going to be worse."@SeriouslyNow: From what I know of benchmarking, pro-benchmarkers use crazy cooling solutions, so I have no idea where you're getting that from.
Surely the use of dry ice backs up my point. It's used to lower the temperature at will, which can't be done outside a case. They aren't just overclocking sans cooling. If it was done inside a case, they couldn't ensure the cooling they require, but, comparatively, doing it with no cooling out in the wild isn't what they do either.
In fact, I am beginning to feel totally lost at this point. Given the concepts, and we aren't actually talking about benchmarking (so this has gotten totally out of hand), I can't even see where you're coming from anymore. Why would keeping the side-panel off the case, when it does not provide substantial cooling, be favourable to a case which does provide substantial cooling?
"Unless the case is literally just a metal box with no ventilation, then taking the side-panel off will just make things worse." My first comment - which to put in context, was to contrast having a case with fans.
So, just to tear this, obviously incomprehensible, comment apart: if you have a metal box with a computer in it, taking the side off will benefit you. If you have a computer with sufficient cooling, it won't... and just in case I haven't been absolutely clear: I have a fan on my face - my temperature decreases. I take the fan away from my face - my temperature increases.
Edit: Bear in mind, also, that PC's don't run in lab-like environments. Should you run it without the side-panel, it's going to gather far more dust than it would with one. Dust provides insulation, insulation leads to heat...
" @SeriouslyNow: No need, I know quite well what it is... and it's covered in fans. "It has ONE fan and isn't covered in anything much but air. You quite clearly do not know what it is.
What's your point? You were arguing, what? That a case doesn't need fans, from what I can gather... but the one you did bring up still has a fan.
:O
Regardless, as I've said umpteen times now, before being taken out of context, (paraphrasing) 'unless the case is a metal tin, then removing the side fan won't benefit you.' Why won't it benefit him? Assuming he has a fan on the side of his case, it's going to be providing more efficient cooling than it would without. As you so kindly pointed out with the Antec's Skeleton case, a fan is necessary.
I still can't actually see what you're arguing with. I've already stated that I see exactly where you're coming from. Taking the side-panel off can be beneficial. See? All you've managed to muster against my comment, is that you can take the case away and stick a fan on top... which is akin to what I said initially.
I'm willing to explain in even more excruciating detail if you want.
Disclaimer: Smarm has been piled on heavily in this post.
" @GetEveryone: You're still wrong and still being a fuckhead. "Cases. Fans. Hot rooms. Dust. Skeletons. Side-panels. Air-flow. Conductivity. Heat dispersion.
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