Hi i'm arguing with someone on tested.com because someone posted their psu broke down in an article, maybe around five of them and it continues to. They use solar power to power these things, i'm thinking it's a power spike or something due to uneffiencient technology. He has enough wattage to run a two hd5870 in crossfireX and uses a seasonic 750 psu. It's a great psu, very expensive, yet only 4 ppl gave it 1 star on the newegg review site meaning most ppl didn't have any problems with it. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087&Tpk=Seasonic%20SS-750KM

 
So what I need from you is to tell me if any of your power watt supply fried before. My guess is 90% of the ppl here never had a broken power watt supply which will strengthen my theory. 
 
For me I never had a broken power watt supply before. I took one apart because the fan was hitting the cage, however it stopped spinning now. It still works. I never had a broken powerwatt supply before and so doesn't alot of other ppl in that thread or article. So tell me did you never have a broken psu? If you did, tell me how many watts and what brand. I run a 750tx cosair psu. Go ahead and answer, your data is important to prove using normal power wouldn't cause any problems with most ppl's psu and it's very uncommon. Thanks.

Never.

I have a Mac, the mouse only has one button.

850w power supply, never breaky.

550 and a 750. Haven't had any problems with either.

I've never had one go bad on me, but I've only owned about 4 computers over the last decade.

I don't think we can say any data from this thread will be representative of the failure rates of power supplies in general, but for the record I've never had one fail on me.

I have never had one fail.  I have a Corsair 950TX

I've bought 4 separate power supplys and there's nothing wrong with any of them. 
 
I'm currently using a 650W for my 5850.  No problems at all.

I bought a really cheap one years ago, I think for the first PC I built when I was in high school.  Not sure on the wattage, maybe 600W or something like that.  Well it was dirt cheap, no-name brand and  stopped working after a week.  Replaced with a quality Antec PSU and it has served me well ever since (so, like, 5 or 6 years), it's 450W I believe. 
 
Anyways, yes, they can break on their own.  I do not remember having any weird power issues at the time, granted this was so long ago.  So take this with a grain of salt.

I have a 750w one. It runs fine. Never had any issues with it. 

650 watt, got it for around 50 bucks, has never failed yet.

I had a power supply die on me after 6 or so years but even then it was a super cheap make and it was running pretty much all day in a super hot room. Those things are sturdy.

Yes, let's all help HitmanAgent47 with his arguments.

I've had a shitty 350watt power supply from Dell fail on me, don't remember what brand it was.

I've had one fail after running a Pentium 4 for extended amounts of time, but it was 230V 50Hz alternating current imput with 380 W max. power. No-name brand.
 
In total i encountered 2 sudden failures in 15 years (not caused by plugging / unplugging / overheating or manufacturing defect) one was a power supply the other a motherboard.
 
It's possible that the PSU suffers from bad wiring, surges, "voltage spikes", caused by switching or even lightning strikes. 

I've had a PSU fry before, but it was before I could make my own PCs and I purchased a custom built one from a local shop but this was Circa 1996.  
 
I guess he used some products that are normally found in central asia.  Avoid KING YES power supplies!

I read your posts in that Tested thread. As usual you're completely nonsensical. Here are a few of the many inane things you said in but a mere handful of posts. I'm surprised the people there were that patient with you. I invite anyone to view the topic here. 
 
First of all you annoyingly put yourself on some sort of delusional high pedestal. Again.  
 
" I am one of the biggest pc gamer on giantbomb" 
 Right...how did you quantify this and how is it even relevant to the topic?   

 
"  I never used seasonic and I don't call them a reputable brand compared to the cosair that I use." 
 Corsair PSUs are mostly rebranded Seasonic OEMs. Oh wait, that's a well-known fact about computer hardware, why in heavens would you be aware of that? Never mind. 
  

" You don't know what some of us giantbomb ppl think of the advice on this forum, you'll be suprised and I don't want to say it here." 
The Tested community is a bit subpar in their computer knowledge (for what is supposedly an enthusiast site) and many of the people are outright fanboys, but you of all people shouldn't be criticizing them. You also speak for no one here as far as I'm aware.   
 
 
So yeah, stop embarrassing yourself, and stop embarrassing us. It's just...embarrassing. 

The only PSU I ever had that failed on me was an Antec TruPower 550W.  Never had any other PSU issues.

Corsair tx750 here. Never failed.

" @Geno: well geno, i'm trying to prove psu doesn't break that often and it's from an outside source. I bet it's his solar panel stuff causing a power surge non stop. Honestly who has 5 psu's fail on them and why?
 What do you think it is? I don't know enough about solar panels to counter the argument however I still think they are wrong regardless. 

@HitmanAgent47

 Like I said geno, alot of my knowledge comes from my experience, not from articles.

@HitmanAgent47

 I mean i'm not the one who recycles every misconceptions from articles I read without testing it myself. 

@HitmanAgent47

 Geno i've heard you critise this site more than anyone here btw, that's why I mentioned some of ppl here doesn't really trust tested.com is because of your comment. Remember how you said you talked to some of the top posters and they didn't make any sense and you just left or something like that? Don't try to cover for that, your their biggest critic here. I didn't say I was the biggest pc gamer, I am only one of them.  The data is really helpful so far from ppl, so I do know psu's fail, not top quality stuff. "

My PSU on my first self-build fried; but it was down to a manufacturing defect with a faulty rail on it. Other than that I've never had one fail. 
I think the replacement I got is 500W in power, but can't be certain.

"Hi i'm arguing with someone on tested.com"

I had one die, and it was a really fancy one too.

I've had at least two power supplies fail on me over the years. I don't know the brands or wattages.

480w never died.

i don't know about you guys, but demons fried my psu

" @Geno: geno if you read the article, you will realise that's not his office pc with these broken psu's, they are actually all his home pc and psu. He said he lives at silicon valley and runs his power on solar power in a differnent place than his office.

@HitmanAgent47

Then again I can't expect you to know that topic of solar power if it's not pc related.

@HitmanAgent47

I am great at pattern reconition, to imply xbox 360's break, that's internal. Which means it's the hardware's fault because the board warps and solders falls off or something, causing some RROD. However i'm trying to say it's not an internal problem, I proved this through my thread here because sometimes it's an interal problem, sure. However no one had more than one psu broke like that. I'm suggesting it's probally an external source. I bet it was a constant power surge or fluxuation and I belive it will happen. That's why I am stacking ammo here because I proved already most ppl doesn't have this bad luck more than once, if any bad luck at all. 

@HitmanAgent47

 Look sometimes I can spot these things, like when I said the i7 is a better cpu for gaming, I didn't have one at the time, yet I can see the patterns that it's better utilized. 

@HitmanAgent47

It's funny how sometimes ppl accuse me of narcissm, ppl often accuse themselves though others at times in psychology. Read your bio, I find it interesting geno, what is this? Your average college student. And by average I mean genius.    

@HitmanAgent47

You can't say well because you didn't hand test every psu, therefore you don't know. 

@HitmanAgent47

I don't speak for geno, how's that? he already spoken. I am part of giantbomb, however I don't speak for them. I never claimed gb is against them, I just claim you made a statement against some of their top users saying they didn't make any sense.     "

ive never had a psu be responsible for its own death , ive had one psu die , but thats cause the motherboard got shorted.
 
750 watt is more than plenty for 2 5870's . they have a tdp of 188 watts ,  times two would bring it up to 376 watt , ad an i7 onto that and the system would be sucking about 500 watts. but thats the very max , 
and it would only eat that much if you were running furmark on both gfx's + a nasty stresstest for the cpu.
 
also , corsair makes awesome powersupplies , if he had one break on him , he is just unlucky.
 
just to clarify , im not saying psu's dont break on their own , just that its not something that happens once a day for a regular person , if you catch my drift.

"   I don't have to put up with your insults, plz don't write here, if you want to write about this, send me a pm, otherwise i'll diregard your post. I never claim you won the arguement because bad luck doesn't mean anything..."

" @Geno: My fridge is verified a couple of years ago, but it leaks now. So what? By your logic, something that happened a few years ago is the same as something that happens now? I mean it did mention a few years ago, the same time as all his psus being broken was when he installed a solar power panel. It's great you just googled it all now, you are an expert geno. Maybe it's time to look into the problem again? I am not talking about a $300 processor vs a $150, the i5 is $200 I think. It's you who claims a $120 X4 is good as the i7 for gameplay, maybe it's more near the i5 during gameplay and not senthetic benchmarks. You also make a claim that no games utilize anything more than dual core because it's not designed for it. Now your throwing insults my way as usual, I ask you to either speak to me with respect and talk to me for a priv msg.   Your just stacking insults in the past, in the future just like the LSAT thread, don't reply to me. Once we communicate, you throw insults like you are some kind of genius. You still didn't explain how 5 psu died and no one here had that many died. Bad luck? Great explaination. You still critized their top users on the forum in the past, while I don't speak for GB, you clearly spoke for yourself about their useless advice as you said. I don't have to put up with your narcissistic know it all insults. I don't have to put up with your insults, you provided no solutions exact the same inane argument as the other guy, it was certified years ago therefore everything works perfectly now. You still didn't explain why most of us with normal constant power isn't getting our psu fried that much. Pretend your right, when you offer no solution except it's bad luck or it's certified a few years ago. I'm saying recheck it again now. The internal problem was the psu fried, the external problem probally is power surges. I don't think solar power is all that constant as they claim. You countering me doesn't mean I agree with your points, you still haven't proved anything yet, except it's bad luck, it's certified years ago and a bunch of insults I don't have to put up with. I mean if you have no solutions, then stop talking here, I am here to find out other ppl's psu data, not here to put up with your narcissistic insults from some weekend google warrior.  I don't have to put up with your insults, plz don't write here, if you want to write about this, send me a pm, otherwise i'll diregard your post. I never claim you won the arguement because bad luck doesn't mean anything, or certified because I say it should be recertified to rule that out. He's going to have more psu break on him and i'm sure that's going to be a constant pattern. Something is breaking all the psus and it's not happening with anyone else here. "

Don't think for a second you are collecting even remotely valid data. Tiny sample size + nonrandom polling + leading question, etc. I see basic statistics is another body of knowledge that escapes you entirely.  "

"ive never had a psu be responsible for its own death , ive had one psu die , but thats cause the motherboard got shorted.  750 watt is more than plenty for 2 5870's . they have a tdp of 188 watts ,  times two would bring it up to 376 watt , ad an i7 onto that and the system would be sucking about 500 watts. but thats the very max ,  and it would only eat that much if you were running furmark on both gfx's + a nasty stresstest for the cpu.  also , corsair makes awesome powersupplies , if he had one break on him , he is just unlucky. "

" @SpikeSpiegel: your still mad because I made that mac thread in the other forum? and you didn't like it? "

Enough of your bullshit, ppl claims i'm this or that. Whatever, however I don't want to argue with some narcissist. None of your verbal abuse is deserved. I don't belive in your insults for a second. Maybe I should avoid you because your some guy who needs to insult others for a power trip. That's why you have all these building pc threads on the forum to show off your knowledge so others will accept you for being knowledgable or they don't know how to google some of this stuff. According to articles, I should avoid narcissistic ppl because they will try to insult and manipulate others. I'm not putting up with agression, manipulation,
 

When someone close to you has narcissistic personality disorder, you can feel like you're the one who's mentally ill. A narcissist manipulates you and everyone else around him to maintain his own sense of worth. Though people with narcissistic personality disorder are often highly intelligent and charming, they're much like toddlers in their emotional development, insisting that they are the center of the world.

Difficulty: Challenging

Instructions

1. 1

   Realize that narcissistic personality disorder is a real disorder that makes the one suffering from it behave in ways that aren't typical of an average person. At the same time, a narcissist attempts to make you feel like you're the one with a problem, if not a full-blown mental illness.

2. 2

   Understand that the nature of the disorder makes it nearly impossible for a person suffering from it to seek treatment. If she does seek treatment, it's highly unlikely that she'll change her ways. Instead, she'll often attempt to use what her therapist says to discredit and devalue other people in her life.

3. 3

   Decide to have no contact with the narcissist, if possible. Because you can't change the narcissist, you should stay away from him to keep your own mental health and stability. Ignore him in social settings, don't answer the door if he shows up at your house, don't answer the phone when he calls and don't return emails. If you live with him and it's possible, either move out or demand that he does.

4. 4

   Avoid discussions with the narcissist unless you have a witness and the discussion is absolutely required, such as for legal reasons. People with narcissistic personality disorder are masters of manipulation whether it's actively manipulating you or twisting your words so they mean something other than what you actually intend.

5. 5

   Join a support group to help you realize you're not alone. While those around you who know the person with narcissistic personality disorder may be taken in by his charm and think you're the one with a problem, other people who've had close relationships with narcissists share your experience and can help you feel stronger.

6. 6

   Attend therapy to heal from the abuse you suffered at the hands of the narcissist. Most narcissists are also abusers, generally abusing you emotionally until you feel like a deeply flawed person. They may also be physical abusers. A skilled therapist can help you recover from the abuse and return to feeling like yourself again.

7. 7

   Figure out why you were so drawn to the person with narcissistic personality disorder so you can avoid it in the future. Narcissists are generally charming people who seem to be larger-than-life, who exude excitement and who may offer excessive compliments. At the same time, though, you can often perceive that they lack genuine emotion and engagement even when you first meet them.

Read more: How to Deal With Narcissistic Personality Disorder | eHow.comhttp://www.ehow.com/how_2384214_deal-narcissistic-personality-disorder.html#ixzz13tEx6E00     
 
  

Know-it-alls

Know-It-Alls believe they are superior to others and show it by being pompous and condescending. There are two types of Know-It-Alls.

Bulldozers
Bulldozers are usually experts who don't know how to work/deal with other people. They feel strongly that the more they know, the better off they will be. They also feel that they control their own destiny. As a result, the ideas and knowledge of others are deemed irrelevant.

To cope with Bulldozers, you have to get them to consider alternatives without directly challenging their expertise which they interpret as a personal attack. Your first step is to do your homework -- prepare yourself with accurate facts before presenting the plan to a Bulldozer. Listen carefully to Bulldozers and then paraphrase back to them what they said. This confirms your comprehension of the matter to the Bulldozer. Next, ask questions to introduce the possible alternatives, prefacing them with statements like "I realize this may not be what we will be doing a year from now, but could we consider this..."

When coping with a Bulldozer, there is a tendency to become one! If you feel you are equally competent, be wary of getting engaged in a one-on-one battle. Be aware of Bulldozer behaviour in yourself.

Don't confront a Bulldozer in a meeting setting. Instead, adopt some of the techniques above. If your Bulldozer is attempting to take over the meeting, acknowledge the Bulldozer's competency, then ask others for their thoughts. Suggest the organization is based on the democratic principle of an equal voice for all members.    

I'm using a 450W that I bought about 6 years ago.. Still holds up perfectly.
I'm using a 4870, many hardrives and capture cards etc etc. 
 
I might upgrade it soon but yeah, so far so good.

I've had about a dozen or so of these break on me in the last few weeks.  Hope this helps.

HitmanAgent47 is my favorite person.

4 powersupplies over the past 6 years, only 1 has failed and that was a shitty gateway one that came with a shitty prebuilt gateway. The rest (Antec, Enermax and Corsair) all ran perfectly right up to the day that I finally sold them.

Those instructions for dealing with narcissistic people are pretty amazing. THEY'LL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE THE MENTALLY ILL ONE. KNOW THAT TREATMENT CAN NOT HELP THEM. DON'T EVEN TALK TO THEM UNLESS YOUR LAWYER IS THERE. JOIN A SUPPORT GROUP AND SEEK THERAPY YOURSELF. 
 
I am also fond of hitman's comment  "  ruling out bad luck too because that psu has a really great rating on newegg"
 
If it was power spikes, couldn't he just get a surge protector and be done with it? >.>

you are a self centered ass who thinks too highly of his own opinion. please do us all a favor and just stop posting shit like this. you are just asking to be shut down because you have no idea what you're talking about. so please, just stop, you make me want to throw all of my computers in a pit and start a bon fire. 
 
and as for that comment of you being one of the biggest pc gamers on giant bomb, fuck off, you aren't one of the biggest because you don't know all the pc gamers, you are just the most out spoken and inane pc gamer on giant bomb. 
 
so i repeat, fuck off.