No component or HDMI cables included? Really?

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#1  Edited By nnickers

Seriously, I don't understand.
 
When the ps3 was initially released, Sony pushed HDMI support (which 360 didn't offer until the elite) as one of their major selling points, as neither the 360 or wii could support 1080p. Since then, they have also, and still are, largely pushing blu-ray as one of the system's premier features, yet they never disclose the fact that the system does not come with the materials required to actually benefit from blu-ray over dvd. Instead, people who don't invest heavy research prior to purchase will bring home a system that can display 480i, and then go out to buy Sony's HDMI or component cables for $70 or $40, respectively. This isn't quite false advertising, but it's just dirty.

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#2  Edited By Babble
@nnickers said:
" Seriously, I don't understand. "
I think it's pretty clear. The PS3 does not come with HDMI or component cables, those would need to be purchased seperate. Which isn't that bad considering HDMI cables are like $5.
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#3  Edited By choffy21
@Babble said:
Which isn't that bad considering HDMI cables are like $5. "
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#4  Edited By Qorious

Yeah, it's pretty idiotic of them to do that. I'd rather have them include the HD cables rather than the ethernet cable since HD cables tend to be more expensive than an ethernet cable when you shop at a retail store.

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#5  Edited By FCKSNAP

Current 360s don't either, I should know, I bought one.
 
But seriously you should look around at how cheap they are.

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#6  Edited By Jimbo

Which, if anything, [their cheapness] makes it even worse that they aren't included with a console that already costs over $9000.

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#7  Edited By Cerza
@choffy21 said:
" @Babble said:
Which isn't that bad considering HDMI cables are like $5. "
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#8  Edited By Karmum
@Jimbo: 
Already complaining about the $299 price tag?
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#9  Edited By ToxicFruit

I did not mind when i got mine , those are also cheap ass cables so... yeah

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#10  Edited By Arjuna

You are getting a wicked deal when you buy a PS3.  It is an expensive piece of quality, luxury hardware that will not red-ring.  They keep lowering and lowering the price in order to sell more, but they are selling the system at a profit loss; hoping to recuperate the loss through game sales.  This is one way they have of cutting costs.

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#11  Edited By FCKSNAP

One thing the PS3 has over the 360 though, I can use different kinds of cables for different outputs since the 360's cables cover up the HDMI port.
 
For example, I have the composite cable, HDMI and Optical-out ports plugged in to other devices on my ps3 so I can switch between different audio devices. I am forced to only use the composite cable on my 360.

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#12  Edited By Jimbo
@Karmum said:

" @Jimbo:  Already complaining about the $299 price tag? "

 Oh, did they come with an HDMI cable when they were $600* then?
 
I already own a PS3, but it's still pretty tight that they can't throw in an HDMI cable - which would cost Sony like $1 each or something.
 
*Actually closer to $850 here at release.
 
Edit: Wait, I missed the bit about no component .... soooo, what does it come with?  Composite only?  If so, that is lol shit.
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#13  Edited By Babble
@Qorious said:
" Yeah, it's pretty idiotic of them to do that. I'd rather have them include the HD cables rather than the ethernet cable since HD cables tend to be more expensive than an ethernet cable when you shop at a retail store. "
I'll agree with this. Including HDMI or component cables seems a lot more useful then ethernet.
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#14  Edited By nnickers
@Karmum said:
" @Jimbo:  Already complaining about the $299 price tag? "
No, as far as I know PS3's have  never come with high-def cables. 
 
@Snapstacle said:
" Current 360s don't either, I should know, I bought one.
 
But seriously you should look around at how cheap they are. "
I don't know where you bought your's, but mine came with component cables.
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#15  Edited By Mike  Moderator

Sony wants you to buy the "official" PS3 HDMI cable at a ridiculous $69.99 or something like that.

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#16  Edited By toowalrus

My black Xbox came with component AND HDMI, but those are so cheap it shouldn't matter. I think you should have researched it a little first before buying, then you wouldn't be bitching about it.

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#17  Edited By RsistncE
@Arjuna said:
" You are getting a wicked deal when you buy a PS3.  It is an expensive piece of quality, luxury hardware that will not red-ring.  They keep lowering and lowering the price in order to sell more, but they are selling the system at a profit loss; hoping to recuperate the loss through game sales.  This is one way they have of cutting costs. "
The hardware can be god sent for it all it matters, because it won't mean shit if you don't have the product and services to back it up. As much as I despise my 360, Live is still the far better choice for online along with the system having all the great multiplayer games. I have a PS3 and the thing mostly gathers dust until a good exclusive comes out (the last one being inFamous).
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#18  Edited By KamasamaK

That is pretty dumb. It's fine for those of use who know better, but there are some who might stick with the defaults which only provide SD resolution.

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#19  Edited By FCKSNAP
@nnickers said:
" @Karmum said:
" @Jimbo:  Already complaining about the $299 price tag? "
No, as far as I know PS3's have  never come with high-def cables. 
 
@Snapstacle said:
" Current 360s don't either, I should know, I bought one.
 
But seriously you should look around at how cheap they are. "
I don't know where you bought your's, but mine came with component cables. "
I bought one from Amazon just last month, the newest motherboard to boot. When did you buy yours?
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#20  Edited By Karmum
@Jimbo said:
" @Karmum said:

" @Jimbo:  Already complaining about the $299 price tag? "

 Oh, did they come with an HDMI cable when they were $600* then? I already own a PS3, but it's still pretty tight that they can't throw in an HDMI cable - which would cost Sony like $1 each or something.  *Actually closer to $850 here at release.  Edit: Wait, I missed the bit about no component .... soooo, what does it come with?  Composite only?  If so, that is lol shit. "
I wasn't being serious, and I was also agreeing with you. Throwing in free cables is always a good thing to do, but cables on the market are pretty cheap. The way you worded your post made it sound like the console is still expensive, as if you hadn't purchased one already. Relax dude.
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#21  Edited By lemon360
@Karmum said:
" @Jimbo:  Already complaining about the $299 price tag? "

the $299 price tag is a lie
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#22  Edited By Jimbo

I wanna say 360 has always come with component (not certain about arcade off the top of my head?).  Pretty sure the Elite comes with ALL?

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#23  Edited By HandsomeDead

Surely if these consoles are designed to be run on HDTVs, they should come with the right cables as standard rather than sticking us all with SCARTs.

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#24  Edited By iiNF3RNo

yeah thats stupid

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#25  Edited By nnickers
@Snapstacle: 
If you still have the receipt, I would go back to the store and ask for cables, as I'm quite confident all models have always come with them. Though if you bought a refurbished system, I'm not sure what the policy is on that.
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I am pretty sure all outlets give you one for free. Amazon certainly do.
HDMI cables cost about 3 dollars. Hardly a big deal.

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#27  Edited By mordukai

I bought like 3 of them for 3 bucks a piece and wasn't the older HDMI versions. They work like a charm. 

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#29  Edited By Drebin_893
@Cerza said:
" @choffy21 said:
" @Babble said:
Which isn't that bad considering HDMI cables are like $5. "
"
"
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#30  Edited By SUBL1ME

PS3 never came with component cables or HDMI cables so what exactly is the problem here? Besides HDMI cables are $5 on Amazon.

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#31  Edited By JJWeatherman
" Current 360s don't either, I should know, I bought one.
 
But seriously you should look around at how cheap they are. "
I don't know where you bought your's, but mine came with component cables. "
 They all come with component cables. Even the arcade I think.
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#32  Edited By KamasamaK
@JJWeatherman said:
"
" Current 360s don't either, I should know, I bought one.
 
But seriously you should look around at how cheap they are. "
I don't know where you bought your's, but mine came with component cables. "
 They all come with component cables. Even the arcade I think. "
This article says otherwise, but I'm not sure how reliable the source is.
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#33  Edited By Surllio

When the 360 got its price drop last year I believe, one of the things they did was remove the HD cables.  The duel cables that it originally came with were replaced with standard composite cables.  The HDMI cables of the elite models were removes as well.  Why?  Because Microsoft figured if ti worked for Sony, it could work for them.  Remember, both companies are going out of their way to be the other, though they will never actually admit it.

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#34  Edited By MetalGearSunny

It's the same one that came with the PS2. I compared them. Identical, and the PS3 cord works on PS2, etc.

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The 360 doesn't come with it either, and there only 5-10$  
 
Oh no I have to walk an extra 10 feet in the electronics section!
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#36  Edited By AgentofChaos

If the cables are only 5 bucks why cant sony just fucking include them.

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#37  Edited By willylo
@nnickers: All 360s used to come with Component cables, but Microsoft just changed that, the Arcade and Elites now only come with Composite cables and the Pro is discontinued. So if it's a big factor for anyone picking up a 360 right now, get them before they're gone or you're gonna have to pay extra!
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#38  Edited By KingBroly

360 cables are proprietary, so unless you get an HDMI cord, you won't be able to play your 360 in Hi-Def.  And if you want 5.1 or something like that you also have to get their cables, so...you're pretty much hosed. 
 
PS3 cables for composite/component are proprietary, but the PS2 component/composite cables do work on them.  Also, generic HDMI cables work as well. 
 
I personally think it sucks in either case, but I think the move by Microsoft to take them out halfway through the generation is a more dickish move.  Kinda like backwards compatibility.

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#39  Edited By skyboost

Tons of people who buy the PS3 don't have an HDTV.

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#40  Edited By chililili
@Bucketdeth said:
" The 360 doesn't come with it either, and there only 5-10$   Oh no I have to walk an extra 10 feet in the electronics section! "
This and all the comments that say the same thing before it should end the discussion. Neither the ps3 nor the 360 comes with an HDMI, and neither did my DVD upscaler so I'm sure if ANY HD players come with HD cables. Really its a worthless thing to bitch at.
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#41  Edited By cspiffo
@choffy21 said:
" @Babble said:
Which isn't that bad considering HDMI cables are like $5. "
"
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#42  Edited By get2sammyb
@Karmum said:
" @Jimbo:  Already complaining about the $299 price tag? "
We knew it was coming.
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#43  Edited By Jimbo

Hahaha, how desperate ;)

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#44  Edited By iam3green

i kind of knew about how it doesn't come with HD cables. i think is kind of stupid. xbox 360 has component cables come with the xbox 360. i bought new component cables on ebay for $16. the ones that are new cost like $30 i think.

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#45  Edited By neoepoch

Buying cables in stores is USUALLY (not always) a huge ripoff and buying them on-line is way, way cheaper.

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#46  Edited By LiquidPrince
@choffy21 said:
" @Babble said:
Which isn't that bad considering HDMI cables are like $5. "
"
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#47  Edited By ltcoljaxson

Well I think it's better it comes with composite cables. Not everyone has an HDTV. An HDTV can work with composite cables to play and watch games/movies. An SDTV can work with composite cables as well. Sony is smart giving the correct cable that can work with both types of TV's. It costs less this way, even if HDMI cables can be bought for cheap - it's just another thing that could be bent or broken in the box. 
 
It's inconvenient for sure, but it says what's included on the box.

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#48  Edited By nnickers

360s, while apparently no longer, at least for several years did come with both composite and component cables, which defeats the argument many of you give that Sony is looking out for consumers without HDTVs. With that said, even, High-Definition became standard at least 2-3 years ago, which is why virtually all products on the market today go further to support it, if not depend on it.

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