@Bourbon_Warrior said:

I was under the impression this device had the power between a PS2 and a PS3, so why not just turn this thing into a portable PS2.

Emulating a PS2 takes a lot more power than an actual PS2 had, for a while it was thought you needed more than even the PS3 had. Whether the Vita can pull it off remains to be seen, and even then it would probably be a limited selection like there is now on PS3.

So can you play PSP games on the Vita as well?

@alternate said:

@sixpin said:

Some really overly aggressive Europeans in this thread. I don't even care about the availability thing, since I own the PSOne games I want on their original disks already, but can't say I've ever cheered at another country not getting access to a game.

Some european users with a sense of humour you mean. This is a little taste of what it feels like to be in the EU market a lot of the time. Take it with good grace, you still get a much better deal over all.

No, I'm pretty sure I meant what I said. Like I said, I don't really have a stake in Sony's incompetence to serve both markets as I bought those games a long time ago. Some of those comments may be written as jokes (and if so whatever), but a lot of them come off as angry. It doesn't make sense to have a go at US consumers, who have no power over the situation, instead of Sony and the publishers.

@BlackLagoon said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

I was under the impression this device had the power between a PS2 and a PS3, so why not just turn this thing into a portable PS2.

Emulating a PS2 takes a lot more power than an actual PS2 had, for a while it was thought you needed more than even the PS3 had. Whether the Vita can pull it off remains to be seen, and even then it would probably be a limited selection like there is now on PS3.

But the PSP emulated the PS1 games greatly, FFVII was a joy to play on it for decreased load times in battles, you would think Sony would of built the Vita with this in mind if it uses PS2 tech in it, but I don't know and just remember when they showed this thats what the Sony guys were saying that it was between a PS2 and PS3. They will probably just put out collections like the Team ICO and God of War collections on the PS3, do this with GTA, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear francises on the Vita, just put some effort in getting people to buy these things.

In the past they have blamed copyright issues for delays in getting games out. I'm going to patiently wait and see if things clear up before I go ballistic over nothing.

@sixpin said:

@alternate said:

@sixpin said:

Some really overly aggressive Europeans in this thread. I don't even care about the availability thing, since I own the PSOne games I want on their original disks already, but can't say I've ever cheered at another country not getting access to a game.

Some european users with a sense of humour you mean. This is a little taste of what it feels like to be in the EU market a lot of the time. Take it with good grace, you still get a much better deal over all.

No, I'm pretty sure I meant what I said. Like I said, I don't really have a stake in Sony's incompetence to serve both markets as I bought those games a long time ago. Some of those comments may be written as jokes (and if so whatever), but a lot of them come off as angry. It doesn't make sense to have a go at US consumers, who have no power over the situation, instead of Sony and the publishers.

You know how pretty much the entire US makes the "fuck Canada" joke. This is the same level.

@alternate: I think that's a different thing, but I don't really do that either.

@GoofyGoober: well it's not like there are any vita games to be excited about.

hey guys im still waiting for dawnguard ,us europeans dont get everything our way

This the oppoiste of how this stuff usually works, still not got Dyad on the UK PSN. This sucks but suck it US lol

Europe doesn't get shafted for once, and of course the overentitled US playerbase complains, NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS

You get a full-featured Netflix, hell, most sites offer everything for the US and nothing for us UK and EU folk, Hulu, South Park Studios, the list goes on, you can play MMOs without ridiculous cultural and language barriers that the European playerbase has to put up with, you get cheaper games and more services with the things you buy, such as ESPN with Xbox live, Atlus games released on time as opposed to a year after they were relevant, your previous generation games run at their full framerate unlike their EU counterparts (Yes, that is a thing, look it up)

We get some extra PS1 games to play on the Vita, and you suddenly call it injustice, it's very irritating

If I already bought a bunch of PS1 titles for my PSP, can I just download them onto the Vita?

@Hawker: People who receive the most feel the most entitled. Americans are dumb for freaking out about this, but it's to be expected.

In your face USA

Another reason not to buy a vita! Damnit I wish I could play old re on the go

@Hawker: Except, there are reason like licensing for most of those things, shitty as they may be. But there doesn't seem to be much reason for this at all, especially since you can just transfer it through the PS3.

I just have to transfer the games from my PS3 instead of getting them off the store. The grass is so much greener in Europeland.

@yoshimitz707: I agree, there probably was no reason for this, but there are no reasons why stuff like that happens here either, we have to suffer because Atlus are too stupid and lazy to begin publishing their translated games in Europe as opposed to wait for it to get outsourced by someone who can bother, for example. I haven't even named half of the injustices we in Europe face constantly in the gaming and general media front, yet we never complain when they happen, because the sad fact of the matter is we're just used to it now.

More regurgitated news from Alex.. at least use your own words.

This is pretty bad. The Vita's already in the shitter, they certainly don't need to be giving the finger to a whole continent of consumers without explaining why.

Maybe they figure since no one's buying the Vita, it won't offend anybody?

Real dumb stuff.

And this is why I'm kinda glad I don't own a Vita.

@Hawker: Is there something that makes both of those situations mutually exclusive? Why can't both be injustices to both consumer bases? You act like someone telling somebody that they have no right to complain about their toe being ripped off because you had your foot ripped off, while neither of those things are connected. Like at all. Both parties are aloud to complain about companies not performing correctly.

This thread shows how little people actually knows about Sony Entertainment, since it launch the European PS store have had more games, more dlcs and more of them free, more demos, more dynamic themes and more free ones, and so on. The same is true of the Japanese market. Sony always had a better support and "respect" of European customers and more community events like the Gran Turismo GT Academy. SCEA is an American subsidiary, we may have slightly cheaper prices, but on customer relations we ain't got shit.

@legendlexicon: Because it's always treated as a far bigger deal when it's America getting shafted for once, it's like me going through a field and getting my foot, my other leg, my hand and half my head blown off and just having to accept it while some other guy manages to lose his toe and suddenly it's a huge issue. They're not mutually exclusive, both cases are bad, I just hate how when Americans get the short end of the stick once in a blue moon it becomes a huge issue while Europeans are still getting treated as second-rate citizens on a daily basis

Sony are doing a piss poor job at showing gamers why upgrading from a PSP to Vita is necessary. Not only does the PSP support all the PSone games on PSN, you can also pick up the PSP at a much cheaper price and the memory sticks aren't nearly as expensive as the Vita's. I'm happy to keep my money in my pocket right now.

Sony: champion of the common man

Pretty much what the others said, it's nice to see the other regions getting a better deal for once... Rare as it is...

What's more funny is the fact that this is "Ludicrous" while if you live in a PAL region this is pretty much standard fare. This is why people from over here are having a laugh over how "upsetting" this is.

Good news, we in EU get a better deal, bad news I don't have a Vita nor do I care about PS1 games.

I think you guys are forgetting that Canada is not America. And we still get shafted on a lot of stuff, like shit-tastic Netflix for one. This is still ridiculous, no matter where you're from.

Luckily, if you live in South America....

Oh wait, thats not lucky at all, because Sony doesn't even have a working psn store here!

*laughs at poor PlayStation and Nintendo owners*

*recalls when Microsoft was going to release a handheld, but intelligently didn't*

*closes article to play 360 and pc games*

Wow, aren't we just letting out how we really feel today! I'm an American, and thus I feel slightly disappointed about the whole spiel, but I can shrug it off because a) I don't own a Vita, and won't anytime soon and b) a lot of the best PSone games that are available I already own because I bought them when they came out years ago. In the end, I think that North American consumers should just grin and bear it- a little patience goes a long way. Also, to the Europeans that are angry at the services their fellow gamers across the pond receive: it's not our fault that the big bad corporations like to constantly rain on your parade; please don't take the hate out on us. Sorry that you've been suffering- we can only wait to see what the future holds, right?

Oh man I love "Abe's Oddworld Oddysee"!

@Morningstar: Considering they are PS1 games I would hope that wouldn't get you to buy a Vita...

@m2cks said:

Wow, aren't we just letting out how we really feel today! I'm an American, and thus I feel slightly disappointed about the whole spiel, but I can shrug it off because a) I don't own a Vita, and won't anytime soon and b) a lot of the best PSone games that are available I already own because I bought them when they came out years ago. In the end, I think that North American consumers should just grin and bear it- a little patience goes a long way. Also, to the Europeans that are angry at the services their fellow gamers across the pond receive: it's not our fault that the big bad corporations like to constantly rain on your parade; please don't take the hate out on us. Sorry that you've been suffering- we can only wait to see what the future holds, right?

Right, because if we just "grin and bear it", corporations will just naturally understand how we feel and change their ways. Your approach is why things have gotten as messed up as they currently are. Also, since you have no intention of owning a Vita, your opinion is pretty worthless.

well that is balls

I haven't had my Vita for more than a week and I already am starting to regret it. Thanks Sony!

I have all of those games. Thanks internet.

Wipeout yay..

Try beign a plus member in europe, then talk... They can't even get a "Walking Dead Episode" on time...

@Soulblitz: They just have to be downloaded, not installed to the PS3.

@G0rd0nFr33m4n said:

*laughs at poor PlayStation and Nintendo owners*

*recalls when Microsoft was going to release a handheld, but intelligently didn't*

*closes article to play 360 and pc games*

Meh, wake up club.

DAMMIT!! I want Little Mermaid 2 and Winnie The Pooh bundle on my Vita that I don't have!

You spelled transfarring wrong. :P

Basically, you'll need to have a PS3 to download the games, and then do some transferring from there

Urban Chaos, WOOT!!

COOOOOOOOO-HereWeGo!

Yay I'm in Europe!

Oh, you have to own a Vita? Fuck that!

@G0rd0nFr33m4n said:

*laughs at poor PlayStation and Nintendo owners*

*recalls when Microsoft was going to release a handheld, but intelligently didn't*

*closes article to play 360 and pc games*

I have a 3DS and it's a great console. Why the demeaning attitude? I also play games on my PS3 and PC.

@DedBeet said:

@m2cks said:

Wow, aren't we just letting out how we really feel today! I'm an American, and thus I feel slightly disappointed about the whole spiel, but I can shrug it off because a) I don't own a Vita, and won't anytime soon and b) a lot of the best PSone games that are available I already own because I bought them when they came out years ago. In the end, I think that North American consumers should just grin and bear it- a little patience goes a long way. Also, to the Europeans that are angry at the services their fellow gamers across the pond receive: it's not our fault that the big bad corporations like to constantly rain on your parade; please don't take the hate out on us. Sorry that you've been suffering- we can only wait to see what the future holds, right?

Right, because if we just "grin and bear it", corporations will just naturally understand how we feel and change their ways. Your approach is why things have gotten as messed up as they currently are. Also, since you have no intention of owning a Vita, your opinion is pretty worthless.

Whoa, what's with the hostility? I've gotten used to not always having things that I want here and now; like I said before: patience is a virtue. But if you're mad, that's cool anyway, because you're probably a PO'd Vita owner. If so, I understand, and I'll shrug off the insinuations.

YO Alex,

what does this sentence you wrote mean,

"Reddit users, as they are often wont to do, have compiled a list of games that can be played via a workaround, despite not being officially supported for North American users."

what does "as they are often wont to do" mean.......I simply do not understand the grammar of this